Here’s a response to a critic of the League on Debating Southern Nationalism.
1.) The League of the South is a Southern Nationalist organization. The purpose of the group is to advance the cause of creating a Southern nation-state to ensure the survival, well-being, and independence of the Southern people.
Among other things, the League of the South is not 1.) a Neo-Confederate group, 2.) a heritage organization, 3.) a “redneck pride” organization, or 4.) a White Nationalist organization. The defense of Southern heritage is a legitimate cause (see the “Stand With Tom Watson” protest in Atlanta in November 2013), but in light of current demographic predicament, it is not and should not be our primary focus.
The Southern Nationalist movement IS NOT synonymous with Confederate nostalgia. We’re not trying to “restore” the Confederacy which only lasted for four years in our collective history. We’re a modern political movement motivated by contemporary issues, not antiquated issues like slavery, which no one advocates restoring. We’re oriented toward the present and future, not the past.
The Confederate Battle Flag IS a traditional symbol of the Southern people. It belongs in a museum alongside other relics and artifacts of the Confederacy. It should only be displayed at ceremonial occasions or at heritage related events. It DOES NOT symbolize the present Southern Nationalist cause and movement. It SHOULD NOT be displayed at immigration rallies where its presence would be inappropriate.
In the last fifty years, the Confederate Battle Flag has been debauched as a symbol and has taken on a negative meaning which it didn’t have half a century ago. It has become a “redneck pride” symbol. It is worn on tacky bikinis by tasteless women. More than anything else, the way in which the flag has been abused is demeaning to the generation who fought and sacrificed so much for it, which is the primary reason why we choose not to use it at some of our events.
2.) The League of the South doesn’t believe in “working within the system.”
By “working within the system,” we mean the idea that we can “Take Back America” by participating in the mainstream political process. White Southerners are a permanent minority in the United States. We are governed badly because we are a permanent minority in a system based on non-Southern majority rule.
This position doesn’t preclude participating in state and local elections. If the League’s agenda can be advanced in the South through participating in state and local elections, say, raising awareness of secession in the mainstream, then we are for it. At the same time, we don’t see any reason to participate in federal elections because we are not interested in being “represented” in Washington.
3.) As the Southern Nationalist movement grows, it will attract a new generation of leaders and promote them from within our own ranks.
4.) The League of the South is opposed to “gay marriage.” We want to preserve the traditional definition of marriage. We’re not “anti-gay.” Homosexuals exist in every society and would continue to exist in an independent South.
5.) If there are any Jews or homosexuals in the League, I have never seen or met them. I can’t answer this question because I don’t know who is allowed to join. I know there are groups like the National Alliance and Klan which don’t allow them to join.
6.) Like the various European nationalist movements, Southern Nationalism is based on history, culture, and ethnicity, which is narrower and felt more strongly than allegiance to abstract racial categories.
7.) Because of America’s debt load and welfare state obligations, the future of the US military is an escalating series of cutbacks. Southerners love the US military because it is the employer of so many of them. They won’t be so fond of it when it shifts towards drones and becomes unaffordable down the road.
8.) So what? It’s true that lots of Southerners support Israel which is aggressively deporting unwanted racial minorities. We’re not opposed to “Zionism” or the idea that the Jews should move to Israel and live in their own homeland.
9.) If political power were synonymous with demographics, then “the Jews” wouldn’t be “controlling” us, right? After all, Jews are only 3 percent of America’s population. How can 3 percent of America’s population dominate the other 97 percent which is non-Jewish?
10.) The League’s present focus, the purpose of the recent street demonstrations, is to protest what we call “Southern Demographic Displacement.” Thus, no one can say we are ignoring Third World immigration. We don’t see any other solution to that problem but disunion because the federal government won’t tolerate reform.
11.) I don’t want to bash White Nationalists, but there were more of us in Tallahassee than than there were of them who participated in the worldwide “White Man’s March” last weekend, so I wouldn’t look to them for solutions.
12.) The “Golden Circle” concept was nothing more than a historical inquiry into the origins of the culture of the Lower South. I had always planned to research other aspects of Southern culture like the Scots-Irish migration to the Upper South or the settlement of Cajuns in Louisiana or the Texas Revolution.
13.) As I noted above, Southern Nationalism isn’t about Confederate nostalgia or “restoring” the Confederacy. Southerners were divided over slavery, but that has been a moot issue for 150 years now.
14.) There is a growing Southern Nationalist vanguard which has attended multiple rallies, but new people have showed up at every event we have held so far. In Atlanta, the Klan recently used the Confederate Battle Flag, named the ZOG, and avoided using our “preppy” middle class attire, so I would say the people who prefer the style and substance of their views over ours should join the Klan.
15.) Patriotic Flags, not the League, sells the Southern Nationalist flag.
16.) The League would take social issues like gay marriage bans, anti-miscegenation laws, and civil rights out of the hands of federal judges and return them to state and local governments where they could be decided through self government.
17.) Instead of whining impotently about “Jewish control” in anonymous comments on the internet, the League believes that White Southerners should organize to advance our own ethnic interests which would naturally offset their power.
18.) Black crime is a legitimate issue. If an occasion arises like the Trayvon Martin case, I have no problem with organizing a protest. I had considered protesting the murder of Christopher Lane, but it was just impractical to travel to Oklahoma.
19.) The League’s Facebook group shouldn’t be used as a platform by malcontents who are hostile to the League and Southern Nationalism. In my experience, one of the many benefits of having a real world social movement, as opposed to an internet based, purely anonymous movement like White Nationalism, is that disruptive individuals are weeded out of our ranks much more easily.
20.) I’ve never heard of Ray McBerry.
21.) The League has evolved into an ethnonationalist organization. some people have adopted a more racialist perspective, that’s good news.
22.) Whether it happens through secession, revolution, or social collapse, the League’s long term objective of disunion necessarily requires power, which is a function of numbers, organization, leadership, money, and influence. Instead of fantasizing about a future “ethnostate” with anonymous people on the internet, the League is focused on building its political base in the real world and taking practical steps to marginally increase our power in a regionally defined geographic area.