Atheism Surges Among White Liberals

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1. Sometimes though, those white liberal atheists come through to our side and become the most fervent nationalists. If someone is smart enough to reject Christianity but too dumb to accept race realism and it’s consequences… well then that’s just it, they’re still just “too dumb”. Let them become genetic dead ends.

   • If a white Liberal becomes a fervent nationalist, and yet is not a Christian, then NOTHING HAS CHANGED. And they all deserve to ‘go back’ to where they come from. Hell.

     And no one is ‘smart enough’ to reject Christianity. NO SANE MAN REJECTS TRUTH, you soddy bastard.

     • STOP your Jew slander of the LOVELY Nordic Goddess Hel. Only Jews and their Kristard stooge Krischuns would trash the beautiful, tender, kind sweet Hel with threats of fire and torment. SO PSYCHO. SO JEW. You sub moron. You reject truth with every breath you draw.

       A Real Case Against the Jews
       One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt
       by Marcus Eli Ravage
       from The Century Magazine, January 1928
       OF COURSE, YOU DO resent us. It is no good telling me you don’t. So let us not waste any time on denials and alibis. You know you do, and I know it, and we understand each other. To be sure, some of your best friends are Jews, and all that. I have heard that before once or twice, I think. And I know too, that you do not include me personally — “me” being any particular individual Jew — when you fling out at us in your wholesale fashion, because I am, well, so different, don’t you know, almost as good as one of yourselves. That little exemption does not, somehow, move me to gratitude; but never mind that now. It is the aggressive, climbing, pushing, materialistic sort you dislike — those, in a world, who remind you so much of your own up-and-coming brethren. We understand each other perfectly. I don’t hold it against you.
       Bless my soul, I do not blame anybody for disliking anybody. The thing that intrigues me about this anti-Jewish business, as you play at it, you make such fantastic and transparent excuses, you seem to be suffering from self-consciousness so horribly, that if the performance were not so grotesque it would be irritating.
       It is not as if you were amateurs: you have been at it for over fifteen centuries. Yet watching you and hearing your childish pretexts, one might get the impression that you did not know yourselves what it is all about. You resent us, but you cannot clearly say why. You think up a new excuse — a “reason” is what you call it — every other day. You have been piling up justification for yourself these many hundreds of years and each new invention is more laughable than the last and each new excuse contradicts and annihilates the last.
       Not so many years ago I used to hear that we were money-grubbers and commercial materialists; now the complaint is being whispered around that no art and no profession is safe against Jewish invasion.
       We are, if you are to be believed, at once clannish and exclusive, and unassimilable because we won’t intermarry with you, and we are also climbers and pushers and a menace to your racial integrity.
       Our standard of living is so low that we create your slums and sweat industries, and so high that we crowd you out of your best residential sections. We shirk our patriotic duty in wartime because we are pacifists by nature and tradition, and we are the arch-plotters of universal wars and the chief beneficiaries of those wars (see “The protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.”)
       We are at once the founders and leading adherents of capitalism and the chief perpetrators of the rebellion against capitalism.
       Surely, history has nothing like us for versatility!
       And oh! I almost forgot the reasons of reasons. We are the stiff-necked people who never accepted Christianity, and we are the criminal people who crucified its founder.
       But I tell you, you are self-deceivers. You lack either the self-knowledge or the mettle to face the facts squarely and own up to the truth. You resent the Jew not because, as some of you seem to think, we crucified Jesus but because we gave him birth. Your real quarrel with us is not that we have rejected Christianity but that we have imposed it upon you!
       Your loose, contradictory charges against us are not a patch on the blackness of our proved historic offence. You accuse us of stirring up revolution in Moscow. Suppose we admit the charge. What of it? Compared with what Paul the Jew of Tarsus accomplished in Rome, the Russian upheaval is a mere street brawl.
       You make much noise and fury about the undue Jewish influence in your theatres and movie palaces. Very good; granted your complaint is well-founded. But what is that compared to our staggering influence in your churches, your schools, your laws and your governments, and the very thoughts you think every day?
       A clumsy Russian forges (edit – a “forgery” requires and ORIGINAL document) a set of papers and publishes them in a book called “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” which shows that we plotted to bring on the late World War. You believe that book. All right. For the sake of argument, we will underwrite every word of it. It is genuine and authentic. But what is that besides the unquestionable historical conspiracy which we have carried out, which we never have denied because you never had the courage to charge us with it, and of which the full record is extant for anybody to read?
       If you really are serious when you talk of Jewish plots, may I not direct your attention to one worth talking about? What use is it wasting words on the alleged control of your public opinion by Jewish financiers, newspaper owners, and movie magnates, when you might as well justly accuse us of the proved control of your whole civilization by the Jewish Gospels?
       You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom of not merely the latest Great War but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of nearly every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.
       Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, care-free pagan race. You worshipped countless Gods and Goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of the social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours — if we had left you alone.
       But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.
       We made you the willing and unconscious bearers of our mission to the whole world, to the barbarous races of the world, to the countless unborn generations. Without fully understanding what we were doing to you, you became the agents at large of our racial tradition, carrying our gospel to unexplored ends of the earth.
       Our tribal customs have become the core of your moral code. Our tribal laws have furnished the basic groundwork of all your august constitutions and legal systems. Our legends and our folk-tales are the sacred lore which you croon to your infants. Our poets have filled your hymnals and your prayer-books. Our national history has become an indispensable part of the learning of your pastors and priests and scholars. Our Kings, our statesmen, our prophets, our warriors are your heroes. Our ancient little country is your Holy Land. Our national literature is your Holy Bible. What our people thought and taught has become inextricably woven into your very speech and tradition, until no one among you can be called educated who is not familiar with our racial heritage.
       Jewish artisans and Jewish fishermen are your teachers and your saints, with countless statues carved in their image and innumerable cathedrals raised to their memories. A Jewish maiden is your ideal of motherhood and womanhood. A Jewish rebel-prophet is the central figure in your religious worship. We have pulled down your idols, cast aside your racial inheritance, and substituted for them our God and our traditions. No conquest in history can even remotely compare with this clean sweep of our conquest over you.
       How did we do it? Almost by accident. Nearly two thousand years ago in far-off Palestine, our religion had fallen into decay and materialism. Money-changers were in possession of the temple. Degenerate, selfish priests grew fat. Then a young patriot-idealist arose and went about the land calling for a revival of the faith. He had no thought of setting up a new church. Like all the prophets before him, his only aim was to purify and revitalize the old creed. He attacked the priests and drove the money-changers from the temple. This brought him into conflict with the established order and its supporting pillars. The Roman authorities , who were in occupation of the country, fearing his revolutionary agitation as a political effort to oust them, arrested him, tried him and condemned him to death by crucifixion, a common form of execution at that time. The followers of Jesus of Nazareth, mainly slaves and poor workmen, in their bereavement and disappointment, turned away from the world and formed themselves into a brotherhood of pacifists — non-resisters, sharing their memory of their crucified leader and living together communistically. They were merely a new sect in Judea, without power or consequence, neither the first nor the last.
       Only after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans did the new creed come into prominence. Then a patriotic Jew named Paul or Saul conceived the idea of humbling the Roman power by destroying the morale of its soldiery with the doctrines of love and non-resistance preached by the little sect of Jewish Christians. He became the Apostle to the Gentiles, he who hitherto had been one of the most active persecutors of the band. And so well did Paul do his work that within four centuries the great empire which had subjugated Palestine along with half of the world, was a heap of ruins. And the law which went forth from Zion became the official religion of Rome.
       This was the beginning of our dominance in your world. But it was only a beginning. From this time forth your history is little more than a struggle for mastery between your own old pagan spirit and our Jewish spirit. Half your wars, great and little, are religious wars, fought over the interpretation of one thing or another in our teachings. You no sooner broke free from your primitive religious simplicity and attempted the practice of the pagan Roman learning than Luther, armed with our Gospel, arose to down you and re-enthrone our heritage. Take the three principal revolutions in modern times — the French, the American, and the Russian. What are they but the triumphs of the Jewish idea of social, political and economic justice?
       And the end is still a long way off. We still dominate you. At this very moment your churches are torn asunder by a civil war between Fundamentalists and Modernists, that is to say between those who cling to our teachings and traditions literally and those who are striving by slow steps to dispossess us. Again and again the Puritan heritage of Judea breaks out in waves of stage censorship, Sunday blue laws and national Prohibition acts. And while these things are happening you twaddle about Jewish influence in the movies.
       Is it any wonder you resent us? We have put a clog upon your progress. We have imposed upon you an alien book and an alien faith which you cannot digest, which is at cross-purposes with your native spirit, which keeps you everlastingly ill-at-ease, and which you lack the spirit to either reject or accept in full.
       In full, of course, you never have accepted our Christian teachings. In your hearts you still are pagans. You still take pride in the glory of the nude human figure. Your social conscience, in spite of all democracy and all your social revolution, is still a pitifully imperfect thing. We have merely divided your soul, confused your impulses and paralysed your desires. In the midst of the battle you are obliged to kneel down to him who commanded you to turn the other cheek, who said “Resist not evil” and “Blessed are the peace-makers.” In your lust for gain you are suddenly disturbed by a memory from your Sunday school days about taking no thought for the morrow. In your industrial struggles, when you would smash a strike without compunction, you are suddenly reminded that the poor are blessed and that men are brothers in the Fatherhood of the Lord. And as you are about to yield to temptation, your Jewish training puts a deterrent hand on your shoulder and dashes the brimming cup from your lips. You Christians have never become Christianized. To that extent we have failed with you. But we have forever spoiled the fun of paganism for you.
       So why should you not resent us? If we were in your place we should probably dislike you more cordially than you do us. But we should make no bones about telling you why. We should not resort to subterfuges and transparent pretext. With millions of painfully respectable Jewish shopkeepers all about us we should not insult your intelligence and your own honesty by talking about communism as a Jewish philosophy. And with millions hard-working impecunious Jewish peddlers and labourers we should make ourselves ridiculous by talking about international capitalism as a Jewish monopoly. No, we should go straight to the point. We should contemplate this confused ineffectual muddle which we call civilization, this half-Christian half-pagan medley, and — we should say to you point-blank: “For this mess thanks to you, to your prophets, and your Bible.”

   • fr4nz – the Brown Mud surge will teach them about racial reality, one way or another. Yes – they are intelligent enough to reject the Jew mind worm of slavery. Dagda save the Good Ones. They will come to us. They won’t have a choice…..

   • Do not want them.
     They are damaged goods, beyond any possible usefulness.

     They would be more useful, if we through them out of a bomber, as a decoy in a bombing run !

2. A very large section of dissident right wingers are non-believers. Alienate us if you want to.

   • Yeah you had your chance in 2015-2017. Secular nationalism has been nothing but a failure.

     You should click on the Christogenea link on the right side of the page to find out the truth about OUR religion (although some of their stuff is a bit wacky). I’ll summarize: the bible supports racial separation, self defense, support for the poor and everything else that’s good and righteous.

     • What about the Christian nationalism we had in this country for a long time? Did it not fail? Why were the Jews spared conversion in medieval Europe when hundreds of thousands of pagans were not? Explain China and North Korea, two relatively non-Christian and nationalist countries.

     • Secular nationalism failed?

       Why don’t you say what actually happened in 2015-2017 instead of some fake and gay soundbite? We supported a president that turns out wasn’t on our side at all. Then tech companies controlled by the enemy censored us online while the threats of doxxing and antifa – which has support from all branches of govt. – shut us down in real life. Please tell me how worshiping a dead rabbi would have prevented any of that from happening? Do you think if we all got in a big pow-wow and prayed really hard rabbi Yeshua would appear to Trump and tell him to help whites? or maybe Yahweh will flood the earth again and the Christian alt-right can get on a giant boat with two of every animal on it and we’ll all live happily ever after.

   • There has never been a convincing argument made to me against the utilitarian function of religion, and its unique role in our peoples history as a moral center of society and source of stablility.

     Similarly there has never been a good substitute posited to me which serves in equal measure for the above function.

     The most that “Non-believers” have managed to do in the modern age is to behave dismissively and outright disrespectfully toward what still is the dominant philosophical tendency of our nearly deracinated people. At worst, “Non-believers” have actively sought to dissuade people from their faith, offering no meaningful alternative, for no other reason than contempt for anyone who thinks theres more to this life than what can be touched or measured empirically.

     What value does your lack of belief provide for anyone? What value does it provide you?

     We obviously cannot agree on the substance of this argument.

     But, if we agree on the substance of the 14 words, you “Non-believers” and fedora tippers aren’t doing anything but damage to that goal.

     In this, I would agree that, but for the fact you are redeemable as an ostensibly White person, you would be just as bad as our enemy if you persisted in pushing atheism against the dominant current of the dissident right, which is still Christian by and large.

     What is so important to you about your own lack of faith that makes you want to inflict that on other people?

     Maybe I am stepping a bit too hard on you. But atheism is more alien to our people than any other system of belief. It is also a fundamentally negative worldview, and so can never be demonstrated to be correct, ever. You will never prove God or a god isn’t there. Not to yourself, not to anyone else. The best you can do is spread doubt, and despair, bringing endless hurt or worse, nihilism to anybody that will listen.

     Atheism is poison, and it has to be dealt with firmly. For all of the above reasons, it shouldn’t be tolerated.

     There are other reasons. But even if you don’t believe, there is no way around my point, which doesn’t even require God or a god to exist, to be simple common sense.

     This thing isn’t about you and your lack of beliefs or me and my beliefs. Its about us, and our common need to survive and secure a future for people like us.

     Despair and doubt don’t help anybody.

     • No, you aren’t stepping too hard on me. These discussions are something that I enjoy. I flirted briefly with Christianity a year ago and was on the other side of these debates, making many of the same arguments you and others have.

       For the sake of the argument, I will grant you your point that Christianity and religion in general has positive effects on certain areas of society. Say it improves sentiments of nationalism and increases birth rates, among other things.

       What can any of us do with that fact? Do we just tell people, “Hey, believe in the magic power of rabbi Yeshua so we can restore order to society!”. People need to actually believe in this stuff for it to work and have those effects. That is, you have to convince them that Yeshua the magic Jew is actually magic and the bible really is the word of God. Herein, lies our problem. The Christian faith has an extremely low probability of being true and it’s glaringly obvious. Any idiot with an internet connection and a science book and put it together. I studied apologetics, read Dr. Craig and all that, it’s all just a bunch of crap. You have to sell this idea that the entire first part of the bible was just allegory which makes the rest of the story nonsense. Science and the internet have exposed your religion as Jewish mythology. The cat CAN’T go back into the bag no matter how much you want it to. It is done. Move on.

       I personally believe that Christianity is harmful to our people and our movement. That is why I shit on it. I advocate for basically any other form of non-Abrahamic spirituality for our people. Go pick one. I personally am a theist. Not an “atheist”.

3. An atheist is a Jew. If you reject Christ and his teachings you are a goddamned Jew. And lets remember what a Jew is. A Jew persecutes and torments the weak and the innocent. Christ, the Palestinians, the unborn as examples.

   • Thank you. That’s the problem with the damned. They think themselves wise, while all along they are the greatest fools. A Jew is the quintessential antichrist. Their entire ideology is to KILL WHITE CHRISTIAN ADAMITES. This clarity of hatred is what gave CI ideology the necessary proof to me, once I had analyzed every angle, and came to the inescapable conclusion:

     That those who are against Christendom, are AGAINST WHITES QUA WHITES.
     Because no one can be a White Man, and NOT be a Christian.
     As Hilaire Belloc noted a century ago, ‘Europe is the Faith; the Faith, Europe.’

     They are hypostatically joined together, as God predestined and ordained them to be.

     Where did Christianity arise? – the Roman Empire – Europe
     Where was Christianity resident during the first millennium?- Christendom- Europe
     What language was used by believers in the Gospel era? – A European language – Greek
     What language did the Hebrews choose to use, for their O.T. prior to Christ? – GREEK (LXX)
     Where were all seven Ecumenical Councils held? – The CHRISTIAN Roman Empire- Christendom- Europe

     You are either a Jew, a slave of the Jews, which means you are a slave of Hell, and the Devil [John 8:44]
     Or, you are Christ’s own, and a fellow citizen of the Heavenly Kingdom, being incarnated on earth, ‘AS IT ALREADY IS, IN HEAVEN.’

     Fin, End of Story. Fuhgeddaboudit, if you are looking for a tertium quid.

     • The only thing Kristards have EVER done is slaughter Whites, and every-one else, on behalf of the JEW.

     • That is spot on, Fr. John !

   • Well said !!!!

   • This is going too far.

     This kind of wild condemnation serves no constructive purpose, and only encourages the discourse into a purity spiral.

     Its sufficient to ask what the motivation is for “non-believers” in this thing to push their ideology of doubt. There is no good answer to that question.

     Their realization of this is the first step to their redemption.

     They won’t get that if you burn them rhetorically at the stake in the comment section.

     • No one,at least that is sane, condemns non-Christians.

       There is a reality though that we can not look away from.
       Jews and for that matter muslim DO NOT CARE what so ever about non-christians in Western/European nations.

       Can you explain that for me??

       I have an explanation for you:
       muslims, jews, hindus, do not consider non-Christian believers in Western/European nations, because, THEY ARE NOT A THREAT !!

       This is what I suggest.
       take stock of our history use your critical thinking faculties and understand that Christianity is their real and ONLY enemy and EVERYTHING else is easily circumvented by our enemies !
       
       Put your pride aside and think like a White man !!!

     • I have to modify my last remarks towards your immediate above comment, as I just read – ” IronicSockAccount | December 19, 2019 at 9:04 pm | Reply “.

       I find that your dec 19th at 0904pm comment is spot on.

       I also have to reiterate that muslims, jews and hindus, (the biggest anti Christians in the world), do not bother pr care about non-Christian believing Westerners/Europeans.
       Hack, the Hindus are just like the nature worshipers of Europe/West.

     • Christianity can survive without White people. White folks can survive without Christianity. It isn’t mutually exclusive.

       As far as values, no murder, rape, stealing, lie as little as possible (e.g., “No honey. Your ass doesn’t look fat in those jeans.”), no miscegenation, no brother wars, no jews, and “The Golden Rule.”

       I myself am an agnostic, but I am quite convinced that all the Abrahamic religions are baloney.

       • Not that it makes any difference, what my opinion is.

         But I am glad you chose to say that you’re an agnostic, rather then an atheist.

         Agnostic is better. It is in line with Classic European philosophy and norms.

         Everyone starts of agnostic and sooner or later find what is best for them.

         p.s.
         The way I see things, in the traditions of our shared Civilization.
         A person who claims atheism is of a low IQ, a low quality person.

4. Don’t worry, Christianity’s got this…

   There comes a time

   perhaps it takes thousands of years

   when people want

   something new.

   • I agree with this. But that something new won’t be atheism. Nobody will die for their belief in “no God”.

     This is the only secular period in the history of our race.

     Whites aren’t designed to be nihilists. Atheism has no other logical conclusion.

     Christianity is dead because Christians killed it. God is still there. We have simply lost his phone number.

     Its time for a new phone.

     • Maybe God changed his phone number or blocked Christians with his cell phone provider.

       Perhaps the “creator ” threw his arms up in the air in disgust at all the White Christians killing tens of millions of other White Christians in brother and cousin wars for the last 1600 years.

5. Zach goldberg….a jew? Lamenting or celebrating?

6. I think this was a forgone conclusion with liberals becoming more extreme. Atheism, Homosexuality, Race Mixing, Transgender freak nature, Feminism, and the elimination of White Christian People is the goal of Democrats. Sure we’re not South Africa yet….but it’s coming soon. The Church and Republicans caused 100% of this problem. The Democrats got more extreme because the Church and Republicans have stopped fighting the Culture War. The Donor Class in the Republican Party are Jews or others of the Super Rich that have zero moral compass. Trump is a perfect example of that. Seeing Preachers taking pictures with Trump in the White House is like seeing the Book of Revelations in action… he could be the Antichrist but he’s dumb…..so the Son of Satan hasn’t arrived yet. Deo Vindice !

7. “Mala enim et impia consuetudo est contra deos disputandi, sive ex animo id fit sive simulate”
   (For the habit of arguing in support of atheism, whether it be done from conviction or in pretence, is a wicked and impious practice.)
   – Cicero

   The history of humanity is filled with countless generations of imbeciles who are just intelligent enough to eat and fuck. Just as animals aren’t prone to considering divinity, neither are they.

   • Hear, Hear !!

   • Lycurgus,

     Don’t bad mouth “animals.” Animals gifted us emotions. Mankind ‘gifted’ itself cruelty.

     “Man’s inhumanity to man is only surpassed by his cruelty to animals.”

     – Dr. Albert Schweitzer

8. What should bind all people of European descent is the 14 words.

   • No lie detected.

   • I hopeful outlook.

9. Atheism and liberal capitalism are a bad combination. Atheism and class struggle are a much better combination.

10. If we could get all white liberals out of Christian churches that would be a great thing.

    • Your sentence is not finished.

      Allow me to add the last part:
      ” If we could get all white liberals out of Christian churches that would be a great thing…..for our, ENEMIES ! “

11. GOOD !!

    Let them DIE OFF – this group of humans we name white liberals are truly nothing less then MORAL cancer in every sense of that word.

    They will accept ANYTHING and adapt to ANY FORM OF DEGENERACY.

    Let them DIE – throw them in a ditch with caustic soda, with tons of lime powder !!

    When it comes to white liberals I preach and practice the old adage, ” Live and Let DIE ! “

12. I can’t blame the liberals for their sense of nihilism but all their anger should be directed at ZOG and the jews who run it, not at middle and working-class white people.

13. like all subversive forces do, they mask their real intentions…

    So mr Goldeberg, is definitely celebrating whilst pretending to be lamenting for the Christians.