In the Sans Jews and Capitalism and White Racial Decline threads, I stirred the pot here by arguing that other powerful factors (aside from Jewish influence) have been at work in America’s racial decline. The egalitarian faith has been around since the American Revolution. Capitalism has been driving race replacement since the first batch of negroes landed in Virginia in 1619. No discussion of this topic would be complete without an extended treatment of Christianity.
Here’s the problem: the Catholic Church and the mainline Protestant Churches are (at least now) enthusiastic supporters of third world immigration and civil rights legislation. To name a few, the Catholics, Lutherans, and Methodists are standing shoulder to shoulder with the Jews and big business on these issues. These groups have their own institutional reasons for their destructive immigraton agenda: theology, more money, filling church pews, relative political influence, the decline in the native clergy, the impulse to evangelize all races, and so on.
But I don’t want to paint with too broad a brush. At various times, Christianity has also been closely associated with the cause of white racial preservation. The Confederacy was a highly Christian state. The Jim Crow South was deeply Christian. So was South Africa under apartheid. America’s oldest white supremacist organization, the Ku Klux Klan, is simultaneously committed to Christian nationalism. The majority of Americans who still hold traditional racial views are Protestant Christians.
Lack of religion cuts both ways: White Nationalists are more likely to atheists/agnostics than the general population, but the same is true of their opponents: Jews, progressives, communists, homosexuals, and urban left-liberals. Atheists are much more likely to become secular humanists than racialists. If given the choice, the typical racialist would prefer to live in the old Christian Europe than its modern post-Christian counterpart.
That said, Christian radicalism has played a definite role in the decline of white racial consciousness in America. It was conscientious Quakers who led the assault on slavery. Their fervent egalitarianism had a profound effect on American culture and was the root of many later social crusades. In the nineteenth century, William Lloyd Garrison and his followers would burn down the Union before compromising with the Slave Power. It was a deeply pious Christian nation that was stirred to outrage by Uncle Tom’s Cabin (the bestselling novel of the nineteenth century). John Brown went to the gallows convinced that God was on his side.
The lineage of Christian radicalism from the abolitionists to the liberal progressives isn’t all that difficult to trace. The abolitionists were the founders of many of the institutions that became centers of far left activism. Oberlin College became the first university to regularly admit negro students. It is the oldest coeducational institution in the United States. After the Civil War, William Lloyd Garrison devoted himself to new progressive causes like women’s suffrage and temperance. His grandson, Oswald Garrison Villard, was a founder of the Anti-Imperialist League and the NAACP.
To be continued .. .
Excellent! Thus far, your treatment of Christianity’s influence as part of the broader narrative of our racial decline has been very evenhanded.
Christianity is now just a front for capitalism.
If you destroy capitalism you destroy televangelist Christianity.
Christianity: Vehicle And Guardian Of Truth, Reason, Objectivity, And Anti-Semitism
(Apollonian, 14 Jul 09)
This is a promising blog subject and expo thereto: what happened to Christianity, guardian of truth, according to Gosp. JOHN, which now seems to be taking part in destruction of USA and West? Well, Christianity became mystified over the years and centuries, unfortunately–a kind of dumbing-down for appealing to people.
But more to the pt. is established Christianity has simply been BOUGHT OUT, lock, stock, and barrel, by means of Jew COUNTERFEITING–see RealityZone.com, TheMoneyMasters.com, and JudenFrei.org for expo/ref. on US Federal Reserve Bank (Fed) fraud.
Hence then Christianity, the real thing, most desperately needs reviving–a real, literal resurrection. “Faith” just means loyalty, properly understood, and there’s no way of thinking or mental functioning than same old human reason. Mysticism, and especially subjectivism, needs to be crushed decisively in order for Christian revival to its proper and necessary anti-semitism (anti-Talmud, as Gosp. MARK 7:1-13)–that’s what it, Christianity, was meant and made for–JEW-EXPULSION.
CONCLUSION: Thus Occidental Dissent stumbles upon the real and proper plan for resuscitation of USA and Western culture: re-invigoration and rationalization of Christianity, and its restoration as vehicle of most vigorous, substantial, and effective anti-semitism and Jew-Expulsion. Halliluyah. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian
DanielJ, one of the regular commenters at MajorityRights.com, has a few blogs, one of which is called RobertLewisDabney.blogspot.com and is devoted to the study of the theology of one of antebellum Dixie’s leading churchmen, a Presbyterian minister whose life and teachings proved the possibility of an internally-consistent, complete theology of Christianity that is non-suicidal for white people. Dabney, in no way unique of course but part of a long regional tradition, was sort of a culmination of two hundred and fifty years of this brand of Christianity on which spiritually-whole Southerners throve uninterrupted for centuries. We Americans are taught by our own history, therefore, that a theologically sound, internally-consistent Christianity that does not spell certain racial death for whites is possible. We have all the records, the sermons, the treatises, the books, the theology. Protestantism therefore is possible for white people. So is a branch of Mormonism, one that refuses to surrender to “modern” insistence on racial suicide, so that’s another option. Eastern Orthodox Christianity is still sane as regards race, from what I hear (Fr. John, a semi-regular commenter at MajorityRights.com who says he’s an Eastern Orthodox clergyman and former Roman Catholic seminarian, assures us this is the case, and we’ve already had an inkling of it from other sources). So Eastern Orthodoxy is possible for whites. So is Roman Catholicism, as hinted at by the views of Bishop Richard Williamson here:
I just ran across the following which I posted in that same thread:
( http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/heroism_with_and_without_high_principle/P100/#c70036 )
So, to the question “Is there a Christianity that does not mandate white race auto-genocide?” a yes answer is possible: in Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Protestantism, and Mormonism can be found interpretations of Christianity that reject the view that in order to be a good Christian a white person must embrace white auto-genocide and actively work to it bring it about — but you have to search until you find those voices, because if you don’t search diligently and you’re white the Christians will have you auto-genocided quicker than you can say Father Pfleger.
Great analysis, Prozium!
If I could just add one thing, it would be that Christianity protected Europe from Islamic jihad. Today, I posted a Youtube video about the Ottoman sack of Constantinople, Greece.
Your contribution to discovering the causes of White racial decline is much appreciated.
Christianity is fine within an all White setting, such as the Dark Ages when the sacred soil of Europa was essentially cut off from the rest of the world. However Christianities suicidal altruism is literally deadly when utilized in a multi-racial setting.
Gal. 3:28 (” here is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus”) is also the siege gun utilized by leftists to push radical egalitarianism.
Myself I dumped Judeo-Christianity years ago for my ancestors ethnic religion.. Heathenism! (Odinism as some would call it). This is a religion where Historically those of color have been referred to as ‘Skraelings’ assuring that they would be the dreaded ‘Other’.
This segment of the White Nationalist/ Racialist scene is growing, indeed Leftists have taken it upon themselves to study it and publish entire books about it!
There are alternatives between Christianity, Atheism, agnosticism, and the nihilism (offered as a strawman by ‘The Monitor’) and that is Heathenism!! You have options, White Man!!!
“Christianity protected Europe from Islamic jihad.”
It has been our great misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Islamic religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?’
Yosemite:”It has been our great misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?”
Good comment I recently saw from a blog that explains the imposition of Judeo-Christianity upon whites pretty well, with some minor corrections – http://feministx.blogspot.com/2009/07/libertarian-hbd-connection.html?showComment=1247590720456#c3067357013771232779
You need to understand the Jew: they are the White man’s psycho ex-girlfriend, simultaneously obsessed with us and hating us: “IloveyouIhateyouIloveyouIhateyou!”
Jews are mentally deranged stalkers: we knock down their temple (they still have a grudge over that), they follow us back to Rome. After Rome fell, Jews followed Whites through Europe and the former Roman Empire, spreading their cancerous cargo cult religion of Judeo-Christianity by getting White kings to impose it upon their White underlings in return for their Jewgold.
Whitey fucks off to North America, they follow us there. You’ll notice they aren’t similarly obsessed with Africans and Asians, and if Whitey were really as anti-Semitic as they say we are they would have left us the fuck alone a long time ago and inflicted their misery on the blacks and browns. They can’t help it: they are obsessed with us.
All the Jews do is inflict misery on white society.
“The second clergyman was the Reverend Mr. Philip Vincent, who, after the death of his beloved wife, traveled extensively in Europe and visited Connecticut in 1637, the year in which the Pequot Indians killed an English trader. The inhabitants of the little colony, under Major Mason and Captain Underhill, attacked the stockade in which the tribe thought itself secure, killed a good part of the Indians and then pursued the fugitives, overtaking and killing them. Some captives were taken and sold to slave-traders for export to the West Indies. A few Pequot escaped, and their enemies, Mohawks, took care of most of them. The tribe became extinct.
The Reverend Mr. Vincent succinctly celebrated the colonists’ victory in well-turned elegiac couplets. There isn’t the slightest hint of a mawkish wish to do good to the aborigines. The destruction of the Pequot tribe, he said, produced peace in the only possible way. It was an admirable example of effective action and it permitted conversion of the wilderness to the agrarian fertility of civilization:
Plaudite qui colitis Mavortia sacra nepotes,
et serat incultos tutus arator agros.
And Vincent exultantly foresees the time when all of the New World will have become a new and more spacious England. Vincent was a clergyman, but he was also a realist, worthy of his race. He understood that whatever may be true in theological doctrine, we live in a world subject to natural laws, and that the first law of nations is that the strong and resolute survive, while the weak and fanciful go under. He was a clergyman, but his was the Christianity that had been adapted to Aryan civilization.
If Christianity today were Vincent’s manly religion, free of sickly illusions and masochistic delusions, our race would not be committing suicide. And we would not have to overlook a very few honorable exceptions and bluntly denounce the religion in all its diverse cults as a spiritual syphilis that has now reached the tertiary stage, paresis and insanity.” – Revilo Oliver
I’m more interested in how multi-racialism has become dominant among evangelicals and fundamentalists.
“Christian Theology is the grandmother of Bolshevism” — Oswald Spengler.
“The institutional Christianity that flourishes today is no longer the same religion as that practiced by Charlemagne and his successors, and it can no longer support the civilization they formed. Indeed, organized Christianity today is the enemy of the West and the race that created it. ” Samuel Francis
Also: Monotheism vs. Polytheism by Alain de Benoist:
OK, I didn’t say there weren’t a few bad apples among the Eastern Orthodox —
So, there are a few. But by and large, only a relative few. Or, such is my understanding.
There’s a rotten apple in every barrel.
You don’t see America’s extraordinary level of white racial consciousness in many non-colonial countries. This tells me it has less to do with Christianity and more to do with our own national origin in the New World.