Unintended consequences of shutting down political opponents example #5,268,745

Though Michael Savage is certainly not on our side, he is a thorn in the side of the Democrat-Left.  He was kicked off of his San Francisco flagship station, AM 960, a few months ago.

Recently, a funny thing happened.  Savage-Weiner was shoe-horned into, of all things, a sports-talk station.  The pull of the market was too strong.  Air America can’t stay on the air; they can’t keep Savage-Weiner off the air.  Getting kicked off of 960 am, and then getting back on via sports-talk radio was a huge victory.  Whoever pulled the strings to get Savage kicked off his station, has been handed a spectacular moral defeat.

One Peoples Project, yet another fine example of leftists who don’t understand Political Dynamics 101, is doing a happy dance about the hotels denying Jared Taylor a conference space.   I don’t know Taylor’s plan, but I predict the following:

1.  He’s going to use this to his advantage in a big way.

2.  He’ll get more donations.

3.  Millions of lurking race realists will get more fanatical — schoolteachers, business owners, computer programmers, service technicians, your next door neighbor.

The guerilla can win by winning, or win by losing.  The only way thing the Establishment could do to slow us down, would be to leave us alone.  Every ounce of energy they put into “fighting” us, goes into our energy account, not theirs.

22 Comments

  1. I think I can trace the exact moment I switched from being a race realist HBD faggot to a dedicated White Advocate to the exact moment I saw the photos of those masked weasels in Canada swarming Jared and roughing him up. That’s when it really clicked for me that this is NOT a debate topic, it’s an epic battle against evil.

  2. Wouldn’t it have been nice to have been their and fought those masked weasels? I have encountered them on the street in Boston. They aren’t known for physical courage.

    There was one time when we were protesting against “israel independence day” in 2002 when about 20 of them started approaching us. There was about a dozen of us, but our side had some truly scary guys – South Boston Irish types. One, “Tony” was a martial arts expert who’d done hard time and was perpetually seething. He had spent 5 years in prison conditioning himself for battle. I heard a strange, growling, “hee hee” behind me and turned to see Tony tense up and snarl/smile as the masked kiddies were walking towards us. But the Boston cops appeared and got in between. It would have been interesting to see Tony in action though.

    If you see the movie, “The Letter” there’s a few clips from Wakefield. The cops had made a deal with the media to throw me and a comrade to the mob, so the media could get some footage of us getting beat up. We were waiting to go in, and suddenly the cops demanded that Jeff and I leave, we weren’t allowed.

    So Jeff and l tried to go where the riot cops were telling us to go, which was right into the mob. We were backed against a wall by the mob, and I got hit with a styrofoam cup full of dip-spit. That’s in the movie. There was a WBUR reporter with a camera that was asking the mob if it was going to do anything to us. But the mob didn’t attack, and after about 5 minutes the cops were like WTF and fetched us to go see Matt Hale’s speech. In the library, the head cop was searching me and I was covered with spit. I hadn’t figured out the collaboration thing at that point, but I told the head cop, “Your guys threw us to the mob, but we didn’t show fear, and the mob didnt’ attack.” The head cop said, “You didn’t show fear?” I said, “Hell no, I’m not afraid of those scum,” and the cop said, “good.”

  3. Wow. I sincerely hope that Tony gets his day. Tony deserves to…..be Tony.

    Bless you, Tony, where’ere you are.

  4. I hear you Wikitopian, I had a similar experience expect we were in the melee ourselves.

    A couple of years ago the Chicago Minutemen were holding a protest outside the Mexican Consulate. My wife and I arrived early and decided to try and get some pictures of the Communists and Leftists. This was not a great idea. About ten minutes after we arrived about forty of them jumped us and began pounding us and smashing our cameras.

    The only person who tried to help was Bob an 80 year old Navy vet who just waded in and ended up being pretty badly beaten.

    Here is some of our coverage of that event…

    http://freedomfolks.com/?p=928

    What really blew our mind was that there was a card carrying member of the media there, who got pictures of the whole thing and not one word was ever printed in the trad. media.

    So to second your point Wiki this is no longer merely a drawing room issue, but we should all plan to leave some of our blood in the streets.

  5. Kievsky:

    One Peoples Project, yet another fine example of leftists who don’t understand Political Dynamics 101, is doing a happy dance about the hotels denying Jared Taylor a conference space.

    Faustus:

    I have talked to this individual…he is worse than you know.

    Kievsky:

    I don’t know Taylor’s plan, but I predict the following:

    1. He’s going to use this to his advantage in a big way.

    Faustus:
    No he won’t.

    This has been the MO of these amateurs for 35 years:

    They are not revolutionary in nature or structure; will not learn from their enemies and, more importantly, will not learn from their friends, those who have done this type of work for years – professionals.

    The ‘street’ is important, and one needs those figures who are able to field a certain ‘strength’, which the ‘living in the past’ designated professionals have no clue in how to win the hearts and minds of their friends and enemies.

    Kievsky:
    2. He’ll get more donations.

    From ‘who’? Not me.

    Kievsky:

    3. Millions of lurking race realists will get more fanatical — schoolteachers, business owners, computer programmers, service technicians, your next door neighbor.

    Faustus:

    No they won’t, or we would not still be in such a ‘niche’ as we are, rather than being a viable Force.

    Rage is there, for sure, but spinning its wheels, because there is NO real Winning Team in the field; this means knocking heads, and getting the hard-won respect which was had, but for a minute, two decades ago. This ‘movement’ is a grass-roots movement, and this means that the flavor and necessity of this mass is different from the ‘egghead’ conception and tenacity of his political vision. (See Tom Metzger for a more exhaustive and realistic concept of this political practice)

    Kievsky:
    The guerilla can win by winning, or win by losing. The only way thing the Establishment could do to slow us down, would be to leave us alone. Every ounce of energy they put into “fighting” us, goes into our energy account, not theirs.

    Faustus:
    I agree with most of your casual and specific observations on many issues; and the gueriila tactics, as you proffer, is sound; both in theory and practice, yet assumes that this ‘band’ has both a close quarter and long range vision of what they want and, most importantly, are willing to do alot more than our these modern counterparts.

    To the latter, it is obvious that you are an optimist. This is necessary from a psychological perspective, and we need more of it. Balance, however, is also necessary, such as the pessimist, and his related calculations relative to tactics and strategy. We are ‘abundant’ with the former, and shy on the latter…this must be addressed in both the political and public venues.

  6. I think I can trace the exact moment I switched from being a race realist HBD faggot

    They really are strange, aren’t they? I mean, most people have an excuse – they don’t know any better. Something in the back of my mind tells me the RRHBDFs who are obviously not simply in transition (it is a reasonable place to be during a transition phase IMO) have something in the woodpile holding them back.

    That’s when it really clicked for me that this is NOT a debate topic, it’s an epic battle against evil.

    I don’t remember exactly when I went “hot.” I remember when I took the blue pill or red pill or whatever (9/11; I decided to “get to the bottom of this stuff”), but not when I went from “concerned” to “dedicated.”

  7. Faustus wrote: “Rage is there, for sure, but spinning its wheels, because there is NO real Winning Team in the field; this means knocking heads, and getting the hard-won respect which was had, but for a minute, two decades ago.”

    What happened to that moment? There was a time when Portland, Oregon was a WN badlands, skinheads owned the streets and those opposed cowered in fear. Idaho, from Boise to the far north, was won territory. It all slipped away, along with the comrades and friendship that annimated that scene. Portland from 82nd to the east was so blatently WN that I had people invite me to meetings based on my clothes and demeanor. No longer The flats are full of meth-heads, section 8 housing full of black baby-mamas, and illegals by the boat load.

    We need to field a winning team again! I agree. We need to cultivate respect.

  8. Wikitopian
    I think I can trace the exact moment I switched from being a race realist HBD faggot to a dedicated White Advocate to the exact moment I saw the photos of those masked weasels in Canada swarming Jared and roughing him up. That’s when it really clicked for me that this is NOT a debate topic, it’s an epic battle against evil.

    One of the best comments I’ve seen from you, Wiki, you made the right choice. Now if only more of them would wake up to that reality. A lot of HBDers are white nationalists who haven’t found their manhood yet.

  9. Isnt it interesting that just about the only mainstream radio host with much in common with WNs (Michael Savage) is a Jew? Its like the Twilight Zone. He supports closing the borders, supports White Christians, understands the marxist roots of the multicult, and realizes that the two main parties are on much the same page on the most important issues. Stunningly, he is continually naming Jews as the doers of misdeeds, but of course rarely identifies them as Jews, and naturally is a proponent of Israel. Still, you normally wouldnt expect a Jewish individual to be so much more pro-Western than our own kind, Europeans like Limbaugh and Hannity.

    @Faustus,
    “Balance, however, is also necessary, such as the pessimist, and his related calculations relative to tactics and strategy. We are ‘abundant’ with the former, and shy on the latter…this must be addressed in both the political and public venues.” I beg to differ with you on this. Truly the gods of Pessimism and Defeatism have been incredibly generous to the WN movement. We have a most abundant supply of gloom and doomers, of those who wonder if any hope is left, certain that the end is nigh. Whenever a new initiative is being launched, naysayers are certain to swarm out of the woodwork with a stream of criticism. But no successful movement was ever built on defeatism. We need a movement with fanatics who never say die, who refuse to accept failure, like our forefathers of old.

    As I read your comments, I dont think our ancestors would be very impressed with your attitude. Certainly Frederick the Great or Alfred the Great wouldnt have benefitted from your lachrymose views. Indeed, had you been in their shoes, I am sorry to say that I am more inclined to believe you would have been an obscure figure known as “Faustus the Discouraged”. We are in the midst of a long battle that will determine the fate of our civilization. Much of the task ahead is to inspire and rally millions of our countrymen to the cause. So lets have less saying of nays and more revolutionary optimism. The future is bright for White Nationalism, great events are transpiring out there, opportunities lie ahead, and the wheels of history are slowly turning in our favor. Go Team!

  10. Here is something you brave WNs can do right now: go to [[orlytaitzesq.com]]. She is a lawyer who is going through hell – just read what the Zogsters have done to her lately – in an expensive effort to force the issue of fake-president Obama’s non-US birth into the legal limelight. Money is power, so send her some of your hard-earned $$. I did.

  11. Zeke,

    The WN’s in Portland would have needed to establish businesses, own commercial property, and infiltrate municipal government in order to make those hard won gains last.

  12. seadragonconquerer,

    Orly Taitz is a Jewish lawyer. No way in hell should White Nationalists send her money.

  13. I agree with Faustus. Real, street-level, guerilla tactics are what need to be discussed and utilized. The risk of arrest is lessening. Law enforcement is overburdened, and budget cuts to police departments will only increase the workload and frustration of America’s domestic police forces. This is really happening, you know – pick up the local papers in your state.

    I’m sure some of those same police are sympathetic to our political goals, as well. Some will look the other way.

    In addition, the courts and prison system are also suffering from lack of funding, all in all contributing to a lack of will on the part of the system to punish.

  14. You only win by losing if you have a noise machine making everybody feel sorry for you. Most people will never know that AR was denied access to a venue, and those who do already know the score.

  15. “…Millions of lurking race realists will get more fanatical — schoolteachers, business owners, computer programmers, service technicians, your next door neighbor…”

    There are millions of us like this behind the scenes, mad as all hell, who donate quietly to what we consider ‘worthy causes’–those who stand up for our people. I donate to VDare, AmRen and more recently and, more importantly, to (and more heavily in the future) Kevin MacDonald’s and David Duke’s sites.

    There are A LOT of us out here, and MacDonald says his site is growing by leaps and bounds. We may not make our presence known, but we donate quietly and our $$ keeps these sites open and in business–many of which run on a shoestring budget.

    I am not willing to ‘take to the streets.’ I have been warned, personally, not to attend rallies because $PLC operatives have been known to follow those ‘on the other side’ in order to take down their license plates numbers, take their photos, reveal their identities and then work to get them fired from their jobs.

    Such is the Reign of Terror under which we must live. The Rule of Law is long dead and we Whites have no advocacy groups to defend our interests.

    I cannot risk opening up my identity to subversive jerks at the present time, I doubt any professional is willing or able to risk his job, pension and reputation by being branded a ‘hater’, ‘Nazi’ or ‘racist.’ Remember what happened to Kevin Lamb when he became a target of the $PLC–their reach is long and powerful, unfortunately.

    Kevin Lamb reports:

    “…However, one afternoon the Southern Poverty Law Center, the fanatical left-wing enforcer organization, called my office supervisors to inquire about my work for Human Events, the Evans and Novak Political Report (an Eagle newsletter), and a “white supremacist” publication (TOQ).

    To my bosses, the SPLC’s Heidi Beirich was a faceless, nameless individual. Nevertheless, without hesitation or reservation, they accepted at face value her accusations and descriptions about my avocational work. Three years of collegial respect simply vanished instantaneously over accusations that were never questioned.

    I was given a few seconds to decide to either resign or be fired…”

    http://tinyurl.com/yab6vou

    And yes, I realize we are in the most important battle of our times– for the future of our children and grandchildren and indeed the United States as we know it. I am not stupid: I know the economy and the dollar are collapsing (by design) and that hyper inflation and major social breakdown are coming in the near future. I fully expect full-out food riots and violence against Whites to begin breaking out soon.

    I am prepared.

    Look, I live in S. California and am surrounded by hostile, low IQ’d non-Whites, many of whom I’m sure would like to see each and every one of us Whites dead. I am also aware that the Justice Department and local police will not come to my defense. Therefore, I have prepared myself and my family for the coming insurrection and am slowly but surely building up a stockpile of necessary items–most importantly ammunition as it is becoming increasingly difficult to obtain in California. My property is fully fenced and guarded by guns and a large, police dog/pit bull mix that despises non-Whites. I wish it weren’t this way, I am a product of the 50s and 60s when neighbors didn’t lock their doors and car keys were left in the ignition in the driveway and store parking lots.

    Those who have done this to us should be hanged from lampposts and shown no mercy.

    Know that we are out here, in force, in the shadows, so to speak, but we are here with our checkbooks and there will be more of us in the future–there is hope, as Scott Brown’s recent election proved.

    Bon

  16. Zeke wrote:

    Faustus wrote: “Rage is there, for sure, but spinning its wheels, because there is NO real Winning Team in the field; this means knocking heads, and getting the hard-won respect which was had, but for a minute, two decades ago.”

    What happened to that moment? There was a time when Portland, Oregon was a WN badlands, skinheads owned the streets and those opposed cowered in fear. Idaho, from Boise to the far north, was won territory. It all slipped away, along with the comrades and friendship that annimated that scene. Portland from 82nd to the east was so blatently WN that I had people invite me to meetings based on my clothes and demeanor. No longer The flats are full of meth-heads, section 8 housing full of black baby-mamas, and illegals by the boat load.

    We need to field a winning team again! I agree. We need to cultivate respect.

    Faustus writes:

    Well said.

    This is true with almost ALL the small and growing centres of American population centers, especially on the West Coast; everything you described is true, and the evolution of its demise is easy to evaluate:

    After the attempted White Nationalist ‘Northwest Imperative’, the opposing forces learned very quickly to deny logistical and intelligence support, on a community level, using the distractions of ‘human rights commissions’ and ‘violence against minorities’ who, as is well known, were making a move from the California ‘scene’ (Crips and Bloods, Mexian mafia, etc.), and brought to bear both division and money, a tactic that our opponnents use quite frequently, as it pays both principles, gangsters make and expand their fiefdom, ‘law enforcement’ uses both their money and insurgent factors to maintain the control over the burgeoning ‘white backlash’, and generally develop a large base of intelligence and counter-insurgency, not against the anti-white armies but, instead, against out own.

    For instance, on 82nd, in the early 80’s, our Sisters were prevalent in the Prostitution work-force, but were almost entirely ‘Independent’, as money was scarce, and the white ‘pimps’ were novices and relatively harmless. This changed, rapidly, as the government and its agents, promoted and encouraged minorities to come to town, guaranteed them money and ‘workers’ without fear or favor from the well-prepared and miliant ‘white nationalists (a fresh army of ‘skinheads’, in those days, were highly motivated, well read, intelligent, and saw clearly, in the main, who the players were); our opposition is well trained in the concept of creating a ‘vacuum’, and then filling it with something they are more inclined to support – avarice, greed, murder, and mayhem.

    Andrew wrote:

    Isnt it interesting that just about the only mainstream radio host with much in common with WNs (Michael Savage) is a Jew? Its like the Twilight Zone. He supports closing the borders, supports White Christians, understands the marxist roots of the multicult, and realizes that the two main parties are on much the same page on the most important issues. Stunningly, he is continually naming Jews as the doers of misdeeds, but of course rarely identifies them as Jews, and naturally is a proponent of Israel. Still, you normally wouldnt expect a Jewish individual to be so much more pro-Western than our own kind, Europeans like Limbaugh and Hannity.

    Faustus writes:

    Jewish persons have always played ‘both sides’, as it is practical and intelligent to promote both a ‘thesis’ and ‘antithesis’, working both sides to finalize their agenda; this is not to say, in the main, that ‘all’ jewish persons are, of necessity, our ‘sworn’ enemies, as the general mass, of any racial group, are not always aware, or care, about such Machiavellian relationships. As a general rule, however, one would be foolish who, without a larger world view, bases intentions upon Words, only.

    Andrew wrote:

    @Faustus,
    “Balance, however, is also necessary, such as the pessimist, and his related calculations relative to tactics and strategy. We are ‘abundant’ with the former, and shy on the latter…this must be addressed in both the political and public venues.”

    I beg to differ with you on this. Truly the gods of Pessimism and Defeatism have been incredibly generous to the WN movement. We have a most abundant supply of gloom and doomers, of those who wonder if any hope is left, certain that the end is nigh. Whenever a new initiative is being launched, naysayers are certain to swarm out of the woodwork with a stream of criticism. But no successful movement was ever built on defeatism. We need a movement with fanatics who never say die, who refuse to accept failure, like our forefathers of old.

    As I read your comments, I dont think our ancestors would be very impressed with your attitude. Certainly Frederick the Great or Alfred the Great wouldnt have benefitted from your lachrymose views. Indeed, had you been in their shoes, I am sorry to say that I am more inclined to believe you would have been an obscure figure known as “Faustus the Discouraged”. We are in the midst of a long battle that will determine the fate of our civilization. Much of the task ahead is to inspire and rally millions of our countrymen to the cause. So lets have less saying of nays and more revolutionary optimism. The future is bright for White Nationalism, great events are transpiring out there, opportunities lie ahead, and the wheels of history are slowly turning in our favor. Go Team!

    Faustus writes:

    I believe you misconstrue my comments.

    The key word is balance…between the Two fundamental elements of ‘romanticism’ and ‘ideology’; optimism, at least in WN’st circles, is powerful, and its origins are related to an almost transcendant, and spiritual aparatus – true Romanticism.

    Pessimism, as in the nature of cold, calculating mistrust of persons and ideas, is a healthy balance, as it allows for the ‘true-believers’ to gauge, forthrightly, those persons and ideas as individuals, judging their intentions and agendas, on a case by case basis.

    My faith, if I may, is that of our Ancestors, known today as Asatru; I sincerely hope that they continue to view my efforts with understanding and support.

    Kievsky wrote:

    Zeke,

    The WN’s in Portland would have needed to establish businesses, own commercial property, and infiltrate municipal government in order to make those hard won gains last.

    Faustus writes:

    This sentence, encapsulates the true White Nationalist perspective; yet, one cannot fault ‘skinheads’ or, generally, the youth of that era, or now. The onus lies squarely on the shoulders of the ‘national leadership’ of the past and the present.

    Professionals vs. Amateurs, this has always been our bane.

    nash2z wrote:

    I agree with Faustus. Real, street-level, guerilla tactics are what need to be discussed and utilized. The risk of arrest is lessening. Law enforcement is overburdened, and budget cuts to police departments will only increase the workload and frustration of America’s domestic police forces. This is really happening, you know – pick up the local papers in your state.

    I’m sure some of those same police are sympathetic to our political goals, as well. Some will look the other way.

    In addition, the courts and prison system are also suffering from lack of funding, all in all contributing to a lack of will on the part of the system to punish.

    Faustus writes:

    There has never been a time, under conditions like we face now, that resistance has not, of necessity, been given to a select few; this why it is essential to protect and support those who see the ‘larger picture’…it is also just as true, that titles such as ‘Cointelpro’, ‘Strike the Brain’ and various other schemes have been used tactically against members of our team, and succeeded, because our side is ambivalent and ignorant of those methods necessary to fulfill our agendas.

    As to ‘sympathetic’ police:

    It has been observed, over the years, that if there were, truly, sympathetic police officers or agencies, after the 80’s, this generation seemed to have passed, and those who were younger at the time, are now in positions of authority.

    An example of this nature of things goes thusly:

    Chief Daryl Gates, upon meeting Richard Girnt Butler in the Los Angeles area, circa late 60’s, was highly motivated and sympathetic to the plight of his people; as a young Lt. however, his loyalty was too his ‘department’ as they paid his wage, and told RGB that “when WN’st were able to ‘pay his wages’, support his family’ and direct Institutions…” he would do as he was ordered.

    I believe that today is no exception; part of a vicious cycle, a theater act, which seems to play over and over again…mostly, because we fail to learn, and act on these lessons.

  17. The law enforcement operations described above will not be funded as well, next time around.

    Also, we should set up our “turf” discreetly, and occupy the high positions — businesses, municipalities, and rental property, so that IF ZOG responds, we can take ’em for a ride.

  18. “Orly Taitz is a Jewish lawyer. No way in hell should White Nationalists send her money.”

    She’s Israeli. The other “birther” Philip Berg is also Jewish. I agree that it best to for WNs reserve their charity and political support for our people. That’s the way the Jews work it.

  19. People who quietly prepare for future potentialities while surreptitiously supporting those engaged in advocacy are the next best thing to those engaged in advocacy. If you ever catch me complaining about those who aren’t speaking up, know that it’s not directed at those who speak with their wallets.

    Street fighting is a romantic and simple diversion from the real work we have ahead of us. The real work we have ahead of us is lonely, boring, thankless, and devoid of cheering fans. Some basic steps ought to be taken to assure our physical safety, but let’s not pretend that the fleeting machismo of the fistfight is a substitute for true moral courage and the depth of character to offer lasting sacrifices for our people.

  20. The British National Front squandered its opportunities and imploded due to excessive commitment to “street action”. The BNP, with its turn to respectability and emphasis on conventional local politics, has been far more successful.

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