With the successful launch of Alternative Right, the old split between the neo- and the paleo-conservatives was laid to rest. What many of us felt was coming, finally happened. There now exists a very real and very serious split between conservatives who remain firmly emotionally, spiritually and intellectually attached to the United States and those whose attachment has transferred from that nation state to the people who formed that nation state to protect and defend their natural rights and liberties: the European-American people of North America.
The latter was so long associated with the former that it still seems absurd to many Americans to speak of the two as having dissimilar interests, let alone clashing interests. Nevertheless, what was once a tiny fringe has become, if not a mass movement, a much larger fringe.
But it is not the size of this fringe but its quality and character that is important. When one looks at small movements that were harbingers of grand change in the past one notices certain commonalities. Expression of a valid nationalistic ideal, appeals to a common heritage, rejection of current politics in favor of an entirely new polity based on a new understanding, wit, passion and, most of all, the ability to reject the status quo as out of date and already dead convincingly.
In that sense, the war has already been won. While superficially the American state appears beyond challenge and is actively spreading its radical egalitarianism in all corners of the world, the reality on the ground is that the backbone of the country which works and produces to provide such fiscal, moral, legal and military power has also been scheduled for destruction by the power that relies upon it.
It is really no more complicated than that. The liberal state is driven to destroy what makes it and its illusions possible by an almost mechanistic impulse.
And as this has become more clear, we now see with the rise of the Euro-American nationalist right as a new virtual community the first post-American rightist opposition to the current system.
The ability to take the huge mental step and declare the current government a failed experiment is extremely powerful and liberating. It enables one to take a long view and take comfort in the fact that while we are writing and speaking in a dark time for our people, we are also now laying the base for the nation to come, the first stirrings of a new nation in the New World.
Take heart, we are just finding our voice.
Very inspiring. I don’t think mainstream pundits realize that White Americans are, for the first time in this nation’s history, thinking of their nation and state as two different things which are opposed. It’s difficult to overestimated how consequential that change in mindset will be the in years and decades to come.
The bottom line is that our enemies are already having their victory parades and measuring the drapes based on statistical speculation that they’ll be victorious if current trends continue for much longer. They’ve constructed this silly self-aggrandizing historiography which frames their victory as an inevitable product of the march of history. It appears that some of them actually believe the agitprop.
BTW, on a technical note…Paste your post into notepad, then copy it from there to WordPress. Otherwise, you end up with your post having style and font settings carry over from your editor to the blog. This is why your text is smaller (at least on my browser) than the text on everybody else’s post.
Absolutely first-rate entry! Just could not be better! Fantastic! Loved it, loved it, loved it!!! Congratulations to the writer, and God bless him! You just made my day, Albert Jackson.
You guys are the Falangists. The paleocons are the Carlists. The neocons are the court opposition. And the entire Democratic Party liberal establishment are the Reds.
This form of government did not fail. It is being defeated. It still remains the strongest form of self governance on the planet and affords what freedoms we still enjoy. Without it, we would be in a much worse position than we are now. The Constitution is the single greatest achievement in human history, second possibly only to the Magna Carta. You tell me what would emerge from a modern day Constitutional Convention of a new nation? I shudder to think. WE NEED LEADERSHIP! Period. Until a leader emerges that is able to merge all the competing ideas from the different groups ranging from the radical to the tea party people we will not see improvement in our ever increasingly worsening situation.
We need to be able to create a leader from among ourselves – a leader who can be replaced at any time – the essential thing is not this man or that man, it is an IDEA. This has been said better by others.
Albert Jackson, excellent post. Very well done.
“the essential thing is not this man or that man, it is an IDEA.”
So the essential thing is a spook, an idea which can never become reality, just as reality can never become an idea.
An individual embodies the reality of the moment. All through history it has been the individual man who creates and destroys. That individual will give you your spook if spook you must have.
Whether it be a Solon, a Lycurgus, or a Hitler, if you can’t possess what is yours, some other individual will give you a spook which will possess you.
“There now exists a very real and very serious split between conservatives who remain firmly emotionally, spiritually and intellectually attached to the United States and those whose attachment has transferred from that nation state to the people who formed that nation state to protect and defend their natural rights and liberties: the European-American people of North America.”
Conservatives? “natural rights and liberties”? And who grants us those “natural rights and liberties”? God? Ourselves? The collective? It is the same old spook that moved amongst us before dressed up in a different fashion. But what are those “natural rights and liberties”? Are they different for this person here and that person there? And on what grounds? The White indentured slaves of American history, what were their “natural rights and liberties”? Can a nation long endure based on a falsehood, on spooks?
There is something fundamentally flawed with our government for the situation we’re in to even exist. Back in the early 20th century when the waves of European immigrants were coming into this country there was a decision by the government to encourage assimilation and intermarriage and unify us by our common European ancestry for the good of the country. Now with the country being flooded by every open sewer around the globe, America’s disentegration looms on the horizon and once again the government wants us all to mix into one ugly brown dysfunctional Morloch race for the good of the country, no matter that the genetics of the historical population are responsible for the country’s success. The survival of the beast is all that matters.
Ed. Wasn’t it policy that only European immigrants were allowed back then? It is not like the French or German were any less White. English and French nobility often married, so its not as if the waves of immigrants were of another race, just another class.
I think there is a distinct difference between our leaders of the 1800’s and today. Our leaders of today are much more focused on survival of the beast, using the very laws our founders envisioned as our protection, against us.
The governmental framework for such a renaissance exists, and it was called the Articles of Confederation, and was never revoked nor adjourned sine die. It still exists legally, never having been outlawed or canceled and, although it was shouldered aside by the current US Constitution, it was strong enough to win the war against the greatest empire in the world of its day, smart enough to reject one-man rule, and able to preserve the leading role of the separate states.
All a movement would have to do is to pick up the pieces, and organize itself around a new Continental Congress and renew the Articles of Confederation. It wouldn’t even be treason.
1791
Naturalization Act restricts citizenship to “free white persons” who reside in the United States for five years and renounce their allegiance to their former country.
@ Ed
Yep, that’s it ED. But, you have to be able to play hardball. Religion & politics are not a polite subjects! You have to be able to roll up a newspaper and use it.
Remember this, we were only able to clean up the dregs of Roman Catholic Europe, and its Jews to a certain limited extent. The Jews being parasites followed their Roman Catholic hosts to the United States. And are still attached to them in many ways.
Kenneth L. Roberts, “Why Europe Leaves Home” is a worthwhile read. This is the same Roberts who wrote all of the great adventure fiction of the French & Indian War and the American Revolution.
Tom Watson is a jew troll who has no clue what he’s talking about.
Get a life jew–your tricks and lies aren’t selling around here.
Lady,
We at least got him to stop with his incessant mental tic – you know – his famous “LOL”.
LOL!
Yeah, no “LOL” but still nothing but garbage.
It’s you Roman Catholics like Nancy Pelosi, and the late Ted Kennedy, or the Bob Casey, Dick Durbin, Pat Leahy, John Kerry, Chris Dodd, Claire McCaskill, Patty Murray, Maria Cantwell, Barbara Mikulski etc. etc. who have an alliance with the Jews in Congress. Not me. Not any major Protestant politicians. But, you Roman Catholics are allied with the Jews in Congress.
I should have mentioned Ted Kaufman, like Kerry he’s a Roman Catholic who is half Jew, and will vote the Jew agenda in Congreess.
Every major protestant politician has his nose buried in a jew’s ass. The entire congress does…that’s why Pat Buchanan calls capital hill “Israeli Occupied Territory.”
Give it up Jew Watson. You’re found out. Try your troll scam elsewhere.
@ TabuLa Raza
One of my very distant ancestors was in Congress, and was I’m pretty sure the Speaker of the House when the Immigration Act of 1791 was passed.
Today this is what we are up against:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100406/ap_on_re_eu/eu_vatican_los_angeles_6
All a movement would have to do is to pick up the pieces, and organize itself around a new Continental Congress and renew the Articles of Confederation. It wouldn’t even be treason.
I was just thinking along those lines. There is a lot more present in existing laws than people seem to think.
This is worth re-visiting later.
@ 19
Hey Tommy, don’t you think that is the churches way of making lemonaid our of the lemons the federal government gives us? If the government is not going to anything about the immigration problem, at least SOMEONE is stepping up and trying to make sure these people are civilized, educated, assimilated. We cant just let them turn into barbarians like those from Africa. I for one hate our immigration policy but I do not want to create millions and millions of enemies that live IN my country, that hate white people. We have enough of that. If cultivated correctly our illegal friends from the south could be a valuable asset.
Of yeah Tommy, lets not forget the Vatican was the only foreign entity to recognize the Confederacy in any legitimate manner.
Here, learn something:
http://catholicknight.blogspot.com/2009/02/pope-pius-ix-and-confederacy.html
“The liberal state is driven to destroy what makes it and its illusions possible by an almost mechanistic impulse.” Confirmation of the self-destructive nature of the capitalist/socialist state awaits the reader of “Wealth and Democracy: A Political History of the American Rich” by Kevin Phillips. According to Milton Friedman, liberals are liberal with other people’s money. What Friedman failed to mention is that liberals are Jews and Jew allies who are liberal with other people’s security and ethnic identity. One US party is socialist and grows through welfare payments, government jobs, and open immigration. The other US party is militarist and gets paid by corporations that want cheap, docile labor, foreign interests, and military spending. Both the two major US parties are liberal in sacrificing the interests of the majority of White people. Are Jews genetically-engineered financial parasites?
“To the extent that minds are shaped by genomes, relatives are likely to be of like minds. Close relatives, whether raised together, or apart, have been found to be correlated in intelligence, personality, tastes, and vices.” — Steven Pinker
Are hard-core Jews about 2% of the US population, with semi-Jews about another 3% of the US population? Does this 5% of the USA control roughly 50% of US financial leverage and perhaps 95% of the mainstream media? Do White racists need a list of 100 videos and 100 books that explain the true state of things in the USA and worldwide?
I think we would do well to stop speaking of enemies and other people and simply forthrightly stating what is ours and why it is ours. Let others respond and attack. We must remain positive and speak as if we had already won.
Once again, Irish Nationalism is instructive here. Sinn Fein never speaks of “if” they gain a united and socialist Ireland, they speak of “when”, why it is inevitable and what this future will look like for the Irish people.
No doubt we have enemies. Yet they are easily thrown off once we gain a decisive minority behind us. You will be amazed at how quickly they dissolve and retreat once the popular will is aroused.
“… conservatives who remain firmly emotionally, spiritually and intellectually attached to the United States …” What about MONETARILY attached to the United States? I see a great many things wrong the USA, but the US Federal Reserve System of funny money has us by the short hairs or the testicles. My one grandson and one granddaughter might participate in a revolution, but if I’m in it I’ll have to be wheeled there in a wheelchair paid for by Uncle Sam’s debt-ridden notes. Ron Paul said recently, “We’re broke, but we won’t admit it.” Are we in a GIANT Ponzi scheme that most of us are FORCED to play along with until it’s all over? BTW, thanks to Matt Parrott and the rest of you for helping the cause of free speech.
17 Tom Watson on 11 Apr 2010 at 3:26 am
I should have mentioned Ted Kaufman, like Kerry he’s a Roman Catholic who is half Jew, and will vote the Jew agenda in Congreess.
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DONT FEED THE TROLLS.
@Another Wallace
Tom Watson is a jew troll. I’ve seen him here and on other boards, and all he does is bash the Catholic Church and Catholics. Go check out the thread called “More Rules on Discourse” for an eye full.
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2010/04/08/more-rules-of-discourse/
He claims to be a southerner, but he sure as heck doesn’t act like one.
Now that he’s been exposes he’s trying to hype his lineage. Nice try.
@ Another Wallace
I actually met George Wallace, we were introduced, and I heard him speak from a front row seat.
The big difference between George Wallace and Pat Buchanan, is that Wallace was a Methodist, and Buchanan is an Irish Roman Catholic blowhard who would deny you in a minute!
” “the essential thing is not this man or that man, it is an IDEA.
So the essential thing is a spook, an idea which can never become reality, just as reality can never become an idea. ”
How antiplatonist of you, Neo. “Pay no attention to that meme behind the curtain.” You must be right, then. Ideas are powerless, etiolated velleities. It must be so, since you say so.
@ Another Wallace
That the Pope recognized the Confedercy is a total fairytale. There is nothing in the Vatican Archives or in the Confederate Archives about it!
Even the Secret Archives (pre-1881) of the Vatican have been searched—there is nothing!
The Pope never claimed he did. President Davis and the Confederate Secretary of State Benjamin (an ethnic Jew) specifically said the Pope had not recognized the Confedercy.
Is there some reason to believe that the President of the Confederacy, and the Secretary of State of the Confederacy would not know they had been diplomatically recognized?
Maybe the Jew Benjamin made it up, and then denied it. You do know that Jefferson Davis was a bitter ante-bellum political & personal enemy of Judah Benjamin?
The split in conservatism that Jackson describes is more aptly viewed as a schism between humanist or secular conservatives and religious conservatives. The latter are the true representatives of the founding intent, while the former are liberals masquerading as conservatives.
The true white culture is definied most overwhelmingly by the metaphysical presuppositions supplied by Christianity’s influence in the Western sphere – just as China or India are cultures defined by their spiritual presuppositions.
Thus no white man who claims the inheritance of Marx or Darwin is a white man. That man is white in name only. In spirit, he is of the mud people.
@Jew Watsonberger
I’ll take PJB over Wallace any day!
Wallace announced that he was a born-again Christian in the late 1970s, and apologized to black civil rights leaders for his earlier segregationist views. He said that while he had once sought power and glory, he realized he needed to seek love and forgiveness.[note 3] In 1979, as blacks began voting in large numbers in Alabama, Wallace said of his stand in the schoolhouse door: “I was wrong. Those days are over and they ought to be over.”[4] His final term as Governor (1983–1987) saw a record number of black appointments to government positions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace
Thanks Albert Jackson for a refreshing and positive post. It truly IS only a matter of when.
@ Tom
I wont dispute there is a lack of “hard” evidence to support the claim of Vatican support for the Confederacy. However enough circumstantial exists to convince me that the Vatican supported the efforts of the fight against elements of the North.
I don’t know why you mention George Wallace, but the differences between those two men are vast and deep. The fact that one was Methodist and one was Catholic is the least of their differences.
You rabid dislike for the Catholics is completely unfounded. Singling out certain individuals who claim to be Catholic but don’t even follow the basic tenants of the faith is not valid in the least. Nancy Pelosi may “claim” to be Catholic, but anyone can see she fails to even meet the standard of a Christian to begin with. There is not one single Christian denomination that is free from error, and if you think your particular one is, well then, you are just crazy and have ZERO credibility.
@ Another Wallace
I do not think anyone will disagree that White Protestant Americans are being killed & dispossessed in our own country that we created & built. Don’t you think it is a good idea to be able to identify the killers?
Roman Catholic Nancy Pelosi is a perfect example. Pelosi preaches open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens right from the pulpit of Roman Catholic churches in California & elsewhere. Pelosi an Italian Roman Catholic woman also votes, and supports the Jew agenda in Congress. Anything the Jews, or their Jew homeland wants this Roman Catholic woman gets for the Jews!
Let me assure you, that if any of our founders were alive today anything that I have said about Roman Catholics would be mild by comparison!
And things do need said.
The Jew Judah Benjamin tried to wreck Jefferson Davis’s political career by spreading mis-information about Davis, and, his brother a Memphsis lawyer. The Jew Benjamin cost Davis an election by starting the rumor that Jefferson Davis was willing to compromise in Congress on the slavery questions, and, that Davis was what we would call soft on slavery today.
Davis actually challenged Benjamin to a duel. But, Benjamin somehow evaded the challenge in true Jew form.
You can believe anything you want—but—if you ever get stabbed, in the front or the back, by a Roman Catholic politician don’t blame me. LOL.
@Another Wallace: Well said.
@Jew Watsonberger: Don’t think you’re fooling anyone by criticizing Nancy Legosi–everyone knows she’s a crypto jew. She has a jewish mother, she married a jew and her children are jews. Good of you to help cover for her though.
You sure you want to make a comparison between who is more a slave to the jew, Catholics or protestants? We know how Israel treats the Pope–but what about all the so called Christian zionist/Israel firsters?
As for the founders–shows how much you know. Ever heard of Maryland–haven for Catholics in the New World? Duh. Also, Charles Carroll, one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, and delegate to the Continental Congress was a Roman Catholic–from Maryland.
CNN and Roland Martin asks:
Were Confederate soldiers terrorists?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/04/11/martin.confederate.extremist/index.html?hpt=C1
Thank you Mr. Jackson for this entry.
I agree that we must talk about our objectives as inevitable and as a train that cannot be stopped.
There is something fundamentally flawed with our government for the situation we’re in to even exist.
I couldn’t agree less. The role of government is not to maintain people-hood, but vice-versa; it is down to the people to maintain government.
I agree that our founders really dropped the ball when it comes to race, but hindsight is 20-20. You can draft any document you want, but it’s a mistake to blame that document for a people gone astray. The fact is that a people without an awareness of who they are are just waiting to be dispossessed, what they have under glass notwithstanding.
That said, again, our founders might have forestalled this mess by basing more on peoplehood and race, and much less on ideals, by reminding us of the fundamentals rather than ignoring them, or taking them for granted.
Ed. Wasn’t it policy that only European immigrants were allowed back then? It is not like the French or German were any less White. English and French nobility often married, so its not as if the waves of immigrants were of another race, just another class.
Thus, the fatal flaw of racial nationalism. A race is not a people. An ethnicity (race, language, culture, history; identity) is a people. The multi-ethnicism you point out paved the way for the multi-culturalism/multi-racialism of today.
Soren, a man should have an idea; an idea shouldn’t have a man.
Look at the haunted man, Jonathan’s post below yours. In fact look at all the spooks haunting this thread.
I wish you guys would find a chat room for your religious wars, rather than dragging them into every damned thread.
@Albert Jackson,
The Irish nationalists have also constantly struggled against sectarianism. It’s a big problem in any political movement. IMO the main cause of sectarianism is not the existence of different political factions but rather the few incorrigables who continually promote conflict between them. Eliminate these trouble-makers and one could build a mass movement. Imagine how far we would be if all the federal informants, costume clowns, and etc. were simply wiped out of our history?
@Jonathan,
I had previously held my tongue on this issue out of courtesy to the Christians in our movement, but your assertion that non-Christian men are “in spirit, of the mud people” is ridiculous. It was pre-Christian Europe, the Greeks and Romans, who actually created the metaphysical basis of Christianity. Without Plato’s influence and pagan religious tradition, there would be no modern Christianity. My view is that we could retain much of the original metaphyics while throwing out the foreign cult-like aspects. And, specifically, Darwin embodies the finest spirit of the European intellect by scientifically investigating the world and drawing conclusions from it.
Latino power comes full circle in L.A.
The announcement last week that Archbishop Jose Gomez of San Antonio will replace Cardinal Roger Mahony as head of the local Catholic diocese capped an assertion of power on the part of Latinos in Los Angeles that is remarkable in its seeming speed.
For decades, only one Latino held unquestioned public power: Edward R. Roybal, the first Latino to win a seat on the Los Angeles City Council. He spent 13 years there, then moved to Congress to serve 30 years, most of that time as the region’s only Latino representative.
Now the power positions held by Latinos in the Los Angeles area are multiple and manifest. Besides the Mexico-born archbishop, who is in line to become the first U.S. prelate of Latino heritage to become a cardinal, there is the mayor. The speaker of the Assembly. The sheriff. A county supervisor. Several members of the City Council, of Congress, of the Legislature, of the Los Angeles school board. The head of the most influential civic entity, organized labor.
“It is coming full circle,” said UC Berkeley associate professor Lisa García Bedolla, the author of two books on Latino politics. “That’s what Los Angeles looked like before becoming part of the United States.”
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-week11-2010apr11,0,1765854.story
I notice Robert Campbell shut down the Charm School 101 thread.
I hope the new moderation policy might do something about posts like #39 in this thread:
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2010/04/08/more-rules-of-discourse/
@Svigor,
That’s sort of my point. No matter what the topic, jew-troll Watson manages a post with something anti-Catholic and LOL. Not just on this site either. It’s a weird obsession and I’m sick of it.
@ Svigor
“That said, again, our founders might have forestalled this mess by basing more on peoplehood and race, and much less on ideals, by reminding us of the fundamentals rather than ignoring them, or taking them for granted.”
The same Congress that passed the Bill of Rights, also passed a Naturalization act that said “only free white persons” of good character who renounced any foreign titles could become citizens of the United States.
I don’t think the founders, in their wildest dreams ever saw the possibility of high speed jet airplane travel. Although, Ben Franklin may have seen the problems the Jews would cause in the US.
I don’t know man, I would be more supportive of the move toward a heavier hand on the rudder of censorship here if the gentlemen who see fit to take that upon themselves actually possessed the salutary ratio of gravitas to pretentiousness they think that they do; they do not. In short: marketing (Wallace), esoteric paganism (Campbell), or a re-ethnicized Christianity (ParroTT) are piss poor substitutes for an actual intellectual/philosophical framework around which to build sustainable revolutionary change and by which all the petty and heated differences manifested in discourse we observer here could be mended (because most of the lemmings arguing would parroT a different line, and more of them the same line, in that milieu, because they are really neurologically incapable of actually thinking and belong at the kiddie table; and I take it the comments section is, you know, kinda [ideally] the kiddie table otherwise wtf is to distinguish it from main posts).
@Ernest
The reality is that many of our Founders came here to escape from the Roman Catholics of Europe, and the Roman Catholic armies of the Spanish, Italian, Austrian & French Roman Catholic kings!
Now we have the Spanish monarchist Roman Catholic Opus Dei setting up in Southern California. Pathetic.