Steven Cowan, 66, was a Wisconsin man who took some things very seriously. An American man of strong principles, one who used his 2nd Amendment right to own firearms, Steve Cowan might have been a man on our side – one who would stand up for our people, our Constitution and our country. Unfortunately, Steve Cowan became obsessed with things that were… -well, just not that important.
Here’s the Steve Cowan story – and it’s pretty funny, but also very sad:
Steve Cowan shotgun-blasted his television after seeing Bristol Palin on ‘Dancing With the Stars”, resulting in a 15-hour standoff with police just outside the town of Black Earth WI.
Steve Cowan was watching the ABC program with his wife on Monday when he jumped up and began shouting about “the (expletive) politics” when Sarah Palin’s daughter appeared.
The Wisconsin State Journal reports:
“Cowan went upstairs for about 20 minutes and returned, demanding his pistols… He was carrying a single-shot shotgun, which he loaded and fired into the television, Cowan continued to yell, demanding his pistols. He re-loaded the shotgun and pointed it toward his wife. She left the house and drove to Black Earth, where she called 911. She told police she was afraid for her safety.”
Sheriff’s deputies showed up at the home and remained outside until 11AM, when Cowan surrendered. A criminal complaint charged Cowan with second-degree reckless endangerment.
According to Cowan’s wife, part of his rage came from the fact that he didn’t believe Bristol Palin deserved to be on the show given her dancing abilities.”
Jack Ryan comments:
I can understand Steve Cowan’s position. I am also tired of Sarah Palin and her family – endless TV exposure, reality shows, lots of talk, talk, talk about Sarah Palin running for President. Yeah – Steve Cowan is probably correct – Bristol Palin is getting on ABC’s Dancing With the Stars because of “politics” – but is this really a great “injustice” something to kill or die for – something worth putting a White man in prison?
No – of course not.
It’s just another case of a White man becoming obsessed with something trivial – and look at all the trivial things that obsess White people:
White American Evangelicals becoming OBSESSED with stopping the Presidential election of Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney – “HE’S IN THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS” So they enable the election of Black Liberation Theology, Lib/Min/Zionist Barack Obama!!!!
Irish and Scottish American heritage Whites still thinking The ENGLISH/BRITISH are their #1 enemy. So Sinn Fein welcomes mass Nigerian immigration in to Ireland and Irish Americans keep Ted Kennedy in the US Senate for 45 years. Maybe it’s that Mel Gibson Braveheart movie or tales of the 1840s Irish Potato famine – whatever it is, these White folks need to get over these old White vs White hatreds.
Wealthy White American agribusiness owners, owners of Marriot hotels demanding endless supplies of cheap, non White illegal immigrant labor – these wealthy Whites hate White union workers.
White Americans obsessed that Bill Clinton had sex with someone other than Hillary – “grounds for impeachment!”
SWPL Whites and other “higher education” Whites defending Somalians and massive non White immigration on the grounds that SWPL are for “diversity” and just can’t stand to be on the same side as rural and working class Red State Whites who aren’t “cosmopolitan”.
Whites dividing over loyalties to football and basketball teams – they live and die for their Cowboys, Eagles – to the point where they would excuse the worst of Michael Vick or some Black rapist.
And then there are all the “Conservative” divisions and hang-ups White Americans have left over from some long bygone era. Ronald Reagan era Conservatives still wanting to fight “THE RUSSIANS”, or those obsessed with hating “The French” because “The French supposedly haven’t thanked us for “saving them in Two World Wars against the Germans”.
Have White Southerners finally gotten over the US Civil War after 150 years – so that they are not “Yellow Dog Democrats” – can’t vote for the party of Abe Lincoln”
Yes, it looks like we finally had a solid breakthrough here. White Southerners have gotten over their obsession with 19th century Black Republicans and have noticed 21st century Black Liberation Theology Dems like the half Black African bastard in the White House. Great job Hunter and all White Southerners – maybe there is hope for Whites getting over so many foolish obsessions.
So the moral of the Steve Cowan story is he was a White man of principle, but he became obsessed with some issue that just wasn’t that important. It’s something lots of White people do and we must work to stop this nonsense and start to care about the survival of our people. Once we secure the existence of our people and a future for White children, then White folks can fight with their wives about who gets to be on Dancing With the Stars.
Is anyone keeping track of what’s happening in Sweden? The marxist government and journalists are destroying Germanic Sweden.
Phil – the topic of the post isn’t Swedish politics.
Please try to read the post and then if you want to make a comment, please address the topic/issues presented in the post.
Jack Ryan commented: So the moral of the Steve Cowan story is he was a White man of principle, but he became obsessed with some issue that just wasn’t that important
Could be. But I would suggest it wasn’t about “he didn’t believe Bristol Palin deserved to be on the show given her dancing abilities”. Only a lunatic could do such thing as Steve Cowan did because “he didn’t believe Bristol Palin deserved to be on the show given her dancing abilities”. If Steve Cowan was a White man of principle, as you’ve suggested, this incident was nothing but the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back.
Steve Cowan may or may not understand the root cause of his problems, but reducing this to “So the moral of the Steve Cowan story is he was a White man of principle, but he became obsessed with some issue that just wasn’t that important” is way too simplistic.
Ivan,
This post is a “tongue and cheek”, humorous post about a White guy that went off the deep end when his wife was nagging him about Bristol Palin and Sarah Palin.
But, there is a serious message in the post:
Too many White Americans become obsessed with all sorts of things that aren’t very important – not when our nation or people face mass immigration invasions, genocidal Black on White crime, loss of entire White nations.
Yeah, I think it was foolish for Steven Cowan to go off and shoot out his television, point a shot gun at hiw wife and have to have the SWAT team smoke him out all over the issue of Bristol Palin being on Dancing With the Stars. But, I think it was equally foolish or really more foolish for White American Religious Right Protestants to waste the 2008 Presidential election obsessed with stopping the nomination of Mitt Romney who belonged, horrors of horrors to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
Well, Jack, all I can say is that you and I have completely different take on this incident, which is perfectly ok by the way.
I had the same urge many times while watching TV that drove Mr Cowan off the cliff. And I can assure you, at least in my case it wasn’t about dancing with the stars. Sometimes I would lose control and start shouting at blue screen. Then suddenly I realized: I don’t have to do this, all I need to do is just cancel my TV subscription and give out my TV set. And that’s exactly what I did. Believe it or not, my health, both mental and physical, improved considerably since then, not to mention I saved some money that otherwise would go to the enemy.
Now every time I get a call from ATT suggesting I get U-verse bundles, I ask them how much ATT would pay me if I except the deal. Usually a moment of silence follows on the other side of the phone line, which I cease promptly to explain to them, in civilized terms of course, what they should do with their plans.
The simplest and the most efficient solution to a problem is usually the least obvious one. We need a simple and efficient solution to our problem, Jack, and we gonna find it, because we have to. We don’t have a choice – either we find it or we die off slowly.
Ivan, I commend you on giving up your TV. I was also TV free for 3 years, but now have TV for some tennis, winter olympics (every 4 years) and Stanley Cup hockey – but, the TV is mostly never on.
For those who despise ZOG TV, but will still have one on or around others who do – I highly, HIGHLY recommend this self defense weapon:
TV-B-GONE
I got my latest one today – man is it great! You can turn off other people’s TV sets – Turn them off in bars, appliance stores, or in family homes of idiots watching ZOG TV.
Here’s the link to TV-B-GONE – no patriot should be without one:
http://www.tvbgone.com/cfe_tvbg_main.php
Pink Floyd: Got thirteen channels of shit on TV to chose from
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZkERB6dU_Y&feature=related
That was long time ago, now it’s more like thirteen hundred channels of shit
Roger Waters has a solo album , entirely devoted to exploring the harmful effects of TV brainwashing. Roger Waters mentioned somewhere that it is a great pity “Amused To Death” is not known nearly as widely as “The Wall”. Because it’s worth it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VQq0wC_72Y&p=EB5F737BC26CD56F&playnext=1&index=30
When the first song ends do not close the browser, the second song will start in few seconds, and so on till the end of the album. The second song and few others will probably sound too noisy to some, but don’t quit, keep listening and pay attention to the lyrics.
I remember a video from (Springstein?) about 15 years ago called “57 Channels But Nothings On” which ended with an Elvis impersonator firing a pistol into a TV set. Perhaps this clown was inspired by that. I have noticed a marked decline in the quality of the “serious” channels like History, Discovery, Science, etc. over the last five years. They used to air stand alone documentaries on subjects like Plate Techtonics or Saturn’s Moons but now there is nothing on buy cheesy reality shows. The Learning Channel totally went to the craper in the early 2000’s virtually overnight changing format from Quantum Physics to “Redecorating Your House While You Were Away” and “Flip and Kate: Knocked Up Times Eight.” These days Nova is about the only thing left in that format.
I saw a decent archived movie on Comcast’s OnDemand the other day in the Free Movies section called “The Detective” from the 60’s starring Frank Sinatra. I had heard it was hated by liberals for its shockingly politically incorrect portrayal of homosexuality as a mental disease that ultimately destroys it’s sufferers. This was before liberals made sodomy a sacrament and it showed how violent these gay pickups really can be. Sinatra had to solve the murder of some rich poof who was found with his dick cut off. I read some cop who said that the public is unaware just how many domestic violence cases, robberies, and murder results from gay pickups. Those “Cruising” type movies that showed the dark side of the #2 membership in the liberal coalition have gone down the memory hole, now they are all portrayed as monogamous couples who aspire to adopt children and live like a gay George and Mary Bailey.
I can sympathize with Steve Cowan because he knows this is nothing more than part of a wider PR campaign to shove Sarah Palin down our collective throats as the next Presidential nominee. I’d bet money that Bristol has already been selected to win this competition before it’s even over.
I think over exposure to TV has a subconscious effect on people. We used to be avid watchers for many years until the programming completely went to pot sometime in the mid 90s. We get 400 channels and maybe watch 2 of them a couple of hours a day and it’s usually some programming over 20 years old. We’re going to dump our satellite dish and get internet TV which costs a fraction of what we’re paying now and we can choose what we watch.
Jack, I’m going to assume your not a Christian or you belong to the Church of Latter Day Saints, else you would understand why we wouldn’t want a Mormon in the White House. I’m very tolerant when it comes to religion and I wouldn’t mind a President of any Christian denomination, Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, etc., but Mormonism is a false form of Christianity that does not focus on the Gospels and they have their own “bible” if you can call it that. It violates the word of God in that you shouldn’t add or take away from it. In my opinion they’re in the same class as Moonies or Jehovah Witnesses.
Nightowl said: I have noticed a marked decline in the quality of the ‘serious’ channels like History, Discovery, Science, etc. over the last five years. They used to air stand alone documentaries on subjects like Plate Techtonics or Saturn’s Moons but now there is nothing on buy cheesy reality shows. The Learning Channel totally went to the craper in the early 2000’s virtually overnight changing format from Quantum Physics to ‘Redecorating Your House While You Were Away’
The reality is much bleaker than that, Nightowl. The science itself, even the so-called exact sciences, not to mention social sciences like history, economics etc, has become politically correct. Last summer I have attended an international conference on physics. The quality of scientific presentations was awful. I recall a funny episode. A presenter from one American college – I could tell by his name, his looks and his accent he was Jewish – wrapped up his presentation with a quote from Marx: “If my theory doesn’t work, I have others”. The quote was followed by a storm of benevolent laughter. After moment’s hesitation, I have remarked from my seat in the audience: “While dealing with Marx, one would be very well advised to clarify – doesn’t work FOR WHOM”. It was fun and rewarding to observe how quick was the kike to catch my drift, but not the audience. When the sarcasm reached the audience, the laughter was almost hysterical.
We’re probably seeing a lot of defensiveness in American Whites. With Cohen in particular, perhaps we are seeing the displacement type of reaction. Something troubles him that he dares not confront, so instead he redirects his confrontation reaction against an inanimate object displaying distant celebrities only incidentally tied to what troubles him politically. That’s very safe, much safer as an unhinged person of the day than known radical activist. He sees himself as powerless and alone, but he feels compelled to respond to his troubles. This is the result.
An excellent psychiatric analysis, Drifter. Surely, you are one of the few who cannot be fooled by the founder of the psychoanalytic school of psychiatry Sigismund Schlomo Freud. The last name of this ‘scholar’ should have been spelled Fraud rather than Freud.
P.S. Jack, am I way over my head? If yes, please don’t hesitate to let me know. Like I said, I do not wish to abuse the hospitality of this house.
Rodger said: “Jack, I’m going to assume your not a Christian or you belong to the Church of Latter Day Saints, else you would understand why we wouldn’t want a Mormon in the White House. I’m very tolerant when it comes to religion and I wouldn’t mind a President of any Christian denomination, Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, etc., but Mormonism is a false form of Christianity that does not focus on the Gospels and they have their own “bible” if you can call it that. It violates the word of God in that you shouldn’t add or take away from it. In my opinion they’re in the same class as Moonies or Jehovah Witnesses.”
And therein lies the exact problem that Jack is referring to. I call it the Huckabee affect. As a nation we cannot afford another disastrous candidate like McCain, or God forbid, Palin. Mike Huckabee did everything is his power to rip the evangelical vote away from Romney. I simply do not understand this shortsightedness. Look at what it got us last time – Barry. Romney is the most electable person on the right. Is he perfect? No. Romney’s political push will probably begin in earnest in the fall of 2011 and it only makes sense to get behind him. He is unique in that he has broad appeal among moderates and, to a lesser extent, some liberal circles too. If the various factions of our movement hold out until the last second, waiting for that perfect candidate, once again, we will be doomed. Romney knows economics, he’s very conservative, and he’s discerning enough to make the right decisions for America. Let’s focus our energy in the next two years on helping shape his policy and in selecting a strong (military background), white, conservative leader as his running mate.
South Park had an episode on Mormonism where Stan finds out about the Book of Mormon’s questionable beliefs (such as The Garden of Eden was just outside Kansas City Missouri) and brutally pilloried the Mormon boy who had just moved in down the street. But sort of like Del Griffiths comeback to Niel Pages scorn in the motel scene in Planes, Trains, and Automobiles the Mormon kid had a rather good reply how “Jeez, maybe it is foolish and all, but these days what the Church mostly teaches is to love your family and treat people right. I just wanted to be your friend, but if this is the way you feel?”
I doubt Mitt Romney really believes Adam and Eve walked the prehistoric streets of Kansas City Missouri, but is he supposed to go around denouncing his ancestors? People have to be civil about their heritage, on the other hand I don’t know how anyone can seriously believe this and convert like Glenn Beck. In Beck’s case, I think he was just so desparate to get in that chicks pants that he converted to Mormonism and married her.
I wsa born and raised a Mormon, but dopped out in adulthood. I’m not aware of any church doctrine that says that the garden of Eden was in Missouri, though I heard some speculation to that effect. This would not be surprising, though; the church is very good at consigning to the memory hole any inconvenient facts about its history. But this is an excellent example of Jack’s point. Who the hell cares where Eden was? Who has any evidence to support or refute that theory? If Noah drifted for months, who can say how far he drifted? And what does it matter?
I know of nothing in Mormon doctrine that should disqualify a Mormon from the Presidency. This is not an endorsement of either Mormon doctrine or Mitt Romney. Nor the Genesis account of creation. It’s all irrelevant. All that’s releveant is results. If you want to see how Mormons would govern the USA, go and see how they’re doing in Utah.
Romney’s mormonism isn’t the problem. Jack’s is. Give it a rest, son. And that goes for the rest of the gripes on your list. Time and time again your posts are little more than picking at scabs.
Drifter has caught the breeze here. Whites are so shit upon from every direction that more and more of them are coming unglued. This modern shit-sucking society is an outrageous affront to any civilized being. How many times a day do YOU want to commit violence? I registered a car today, hardly an American face to be seen. Dumb Dark clerks, and twice, Gooks tried to cut in line directly ahead of me. They stand in line as well as they drive.
I have long suspected that Prozac and Ritalin exist to keep White men and boys controllable as they are slowly crushed.
While I sympathize with where you’re coming from Mr. Ryan – because the issues you highlighted are also unimportant to me – I think there are more effective ways to go about addressing it. Telling anyone there are more important things to worry about than what is important to them will only cause them to shut down or become angry: people do not respond positively to invalidation. After all, where would anyone get the ‘right’ to determine whether the values and priorities of others are legitimate? That said, it does bother me on a personal level that Whites are playing their violins while Rome is burning. It’s just that I think providing them with the information and authority to alter their values is strategically superior to denouncing them. All in all, however, I enjoy your voice here even when I don’t agree. I hope I haven’t given offense.
Debating over which Jewish-derived religion is superior?
Forget about your nation then.
How can men be free of the Jews when their souls are not?
I don’t think expecting a candidate to be from a mainstream Christian denomination is being picky. I say it not only for personal reasons but you can’t ignore the fact that most real Christians and alot of Southerners too aren’t going to vote for Mitt Romney. If he didn’t get the nomination before he won’t get it in 2012. I don’t think we have to worry about Sarah Palin either. This massive PR campaign which includes her own reality show complete with boring situations and lame dialogue and Bristol Palin in a dance competition just shows how ridiculous the whole thing is to the public. Can you imagine another Presidential contender doing the same things?
Thanks to everyone who picked up on the key issue here:
White Americans becoming “obsessed” with some issue, some differences between perfectly good White people that just aren’t important. White Americans should have loyalty to “our people” our White Indo European people everywhere in America, everywhere in the world – instead we get these foolish divisions, obsessions on things that just don’t matter.
So many of our White people do nothing about terrible, violent attacks against Whites – like the 1992 Rodney King riots in LA, the Arab – Muslim extremist attacks on the World Trade Center in ’93 and again in 2001. These horrible atrocities aren’t hard to understand, people like us in the know understand when Black criminal mobs are going to riot, murder and loot and we know from our knowledge of history that Arab and other Muslims resort to mass violence when they reach a certain percentage in a White country/community – that’s what they do.
But for so many of our White American leaders, they have other concerns – like 24/7/365 OBSESSIONS that Bill Clinton had a sexual affair and cheated on Hillary Rodham Clinton – America actually had full scale impeachment proceedings over this nonsense.
As for White Evangelic Protestants who are OBSESSED that perfectly healthy Whites like Mitt Romney aren’t REAL CHRISTIANS because they attend the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints – there really isn’t very much we can do with these idiots except force them in to contact with the worst, most hostile, violent, disease ridden non Whites.
“Hey Rev Mike Huckabee – (THE HUCKSTER), you hate White Mormon/Latter Day Saints and think open borders immigration of Mestizo Latrinos to Iowa is just great – well, you’re going to get to know some M13 Latrino gang bangers…. UP CLOSE AND IN PERSON, and some HIV + Somalian bantu “refugees” are going to share blood, saliva and other bodily fluids with your daughter.
We’ve done a pretty good job of purging many RINOS from American politics, now we need to show some “tough love” with idiot, traitorous Religious Right folks. We can not allow them to push anti White, genocidal positions like supporting White civil wars against the Russians, Serbs, White Mormons and we can not allow them to sponsor massive non White immigration, amnesty for illegals under some confused, mixed up Biblically inspired mission to “spread the gospel to all nations”.
The key is to quickly recognize individual “obsessions” and contain the problem, don’t let the obsession spread. It’s the same with these conspiracy mongering Kook stuff or in Steve Cowan’s case – his obsession that Bristol Palin really didn’t deserve to be on Dancing With the Stars.
🙂
Rodger says:
December 2, 2010 at 2:15 pm
I don’t think expecting a candidate to be from a mainstream Christian denomination is being picky. I say it not only for personal reasons but you can’t ignore the fact that most real Christians and a lot of Southerners too aren’t going to vote for Mitt Romney. If he didn’t get the nomination before he won’t get it in 2012.
Jack Ryan replies:
Yes Rodger, I agree. That’s just reality, a sad reality, but the way it is – Southern White Protestants simply will not support a White Mormon/LDS candidate like Mitt Romney even if the alternative is a half Black African, Black Liberation Theology Leftist who’s entire cabinet and supreme court justice nominees do not contain 1 single straight White male!
That’s one unpleasant fact of life with one large segment of our White American community.
Another unpleasant fact is that a very large percentage of White Americans will get all excited and support any and all pro Israel, pro Jew wars, military attacks as long as some guy like Ted Nugent gets on TV and says “Yahoo – let’s bomb Ey-Ran!”.
This same large community of White Americans also always go for candidates that have…
been in the military like John McCain.
It doesn’t matter if John McCain has become totally corrupted by the then Ted Kennedy dominated Congress, Washington-Hollywood-Harvard and Yale Lib/Min elite and McCain’s idiot wife has him under her spell, a large percentage of White Americans, particularly in the South will always go for the candidate who
was in the Military – who stands for a “Strong National Defense” – yeah right, like John McCain has ever done anything in the last 40 years to defend our nation’s borders, protect Whites Americans from being raped and killed in our cities.
Another similar, very bad Southern White obsession was Southerners only voting for the Democrat party for over 100 years after the Civil War. Whites in the South were “Yellow Dog Democrats” – would vote for a Yellow Dog – or a Jacob Javitz, Jew York Times, LBJ Great Society Democrat ticket up through the 1960s Black race riots, forced busing, anti White Leftist Jew take over of the national Dem party.
But, there is always hope and thanks to the activism of bright, principled Southern Whites like our own Hunter Wallace – Whites in the South have broken their addiction to the Democrat party now that it is viciously anti White (see Tim Wise).
In this latest comment Jack continues his tantrum against southerners and christians because he thinks they don’t support mormonism to his satisfaction. At this point is there anyone who doesn’t know what Jack’s religion is? Hell, it ain’t like we’re asking. He shoves it in our face every time he posts a blog. Like I said, Romney’s mormonism isn’t a problem. Jack’s is.
fred says:
“In this latest comment Jack continues his tantrum against southerners and christians because he thinks they don’t support mormonism to his satisfaction. At this point is there anyone who doesn’t know what Jack’s religion is? Hell, it ain’t like we’re asking. He shoves it in our face every time he posts a blog. Like I said, Romney’s mormonism isn’t a problem. Jack’s is.”
Jack Ryan replies:
Hey Fred
– do you lie awake at night, shivering in fear that the Donny and or Marie Osmond family might move in next door – are you scared to take a walk on the campus of Brigham Young University and have some well scrubbed young Latter Day Saint lad wish you a “good morning”.
Hey Fred, when you get on a subway in New York City after a Yankees game – do you check out the passengers in the South Bronx subway to see if some pretty blonde girl might be the daughter of Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney out to spread false LDS church doctrines to the good Christian people of the South Bronx… Hey Fred, have you ever noticed that a lot of the “good Christian” people in the South Bronx look a little different, many look like not so good NW thugs, rapists, murderers from Jamaica, Haiti, Algeria?
Hey Fred – if you were on an airplane sitting across the aisle from some guy named Mohammed Ata and he and some rather dark, hairy, resentful looking Muslim Arabs took out box cutters and began to murder the flight attendants, then the pilots, then these dark, hairy racially alien Muslims took control of the airplane and began to fly the planes directly in to downtown Manhattan, would you still be spending all of your time OBSESSED with theological doctrinal differences between Southern Baptists and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints?
Hey Fred – would you prefer that you brother would be thrown in prison and become the punk homo sex slave of some HIV + Black gang banger instead of him marrying some wholesome White LDS cheerleader from 97% White Ricks College in Idaho?
Hey Fred – if you are nodding your head and saying “yes” to all of the above then, YES – I would say that you have an unhealthy OBSESSION hating perfectly good, healthy White Americans who’s only crime is that they are affiliated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints!
As for me, I work with all kinds of healthy, SANE White people all over he world – Christian, secular, Catholic, LDS, Orthodox, Yankees, Southerners, Texans, even White Eastern Europeans, Southern Europeans and Whites from Latin American countries. I’m RACIST – I am kind to my own kind.
I just try to stay clear of idiots – folks obsessed with things that are just not very important.
Fred, I hope that clears things up.
jack ryan said: So many of our White people do nothing about terrible, violent attacks against Whites – like the 1992 Rodney King riots in LA, the Arab – Muslim extremist attacks on the World Trade Center in ’93 and again in 2001. These horrible atrocities aren’t hard to understand, people like us in the know understand when Black criminal mobs are going to riot, murder and loot and we know from our knowledge of history that Arab and other Muslims resort to mass violence when they reach a certain percentage in a White country/community – that’s what they do.
One would think that jack, who is against White men of principle becoming obsessed with some issues that just aren’t that important, would go straight to the crux of the problem – the jews. But no, he wants the two major and potentially lethal enemies of the jews – the White men of principle and the followers of Islam – be locked in a deadly fight. This sounds very jewish to me, jack.
Do you really think that you can do this kind of clumsy work and yet remain lightproof?
Hey Fred – if you are nodding your head and saying “yes” to all of the above then, YES – I would say that you have an unhealthy OBSESSION hating perfectly good, healthy White Americans who’s only crime is that they are affiliated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints!
Well, I wasn’t nodding my head and saying “yes” to any of those. Because I don’t have an unhealthy OBSESSION blah blah blah. You see, Jack, I rather like mormons and always have. As far as I’m concerned, one fairy tale is just as good as another and unlike some denominations mormons at least tend to be fairly moral and polite.
That is, of course, except you. Because you wear your religion on your sleeve. I would suggest that it is you who are obsessed. You have some kind of insecurity / martyr complex that keeps you harping away at it. You bring it up in thread after threat after thread. And always with some slap at others. When I asked you to knock it off you accuse me of being prejudiced. No, jack, I’m not prejudiced against mormons at all. Like I’ve said twice already, Romney’s mormonism isn’t the problem. YOURS is.
fred says:
“That is, of course, except you. Because you wear your religion on your sleeve. I would suggest that it is you who are obsessed. You have some kind of insecurity / martyr complex that keeps you harping away at it. You bring it up in thread after threat after thread. And always with some slap at others. When I asked you to knock it off you accuse me of being prejudiced. No, jack, I’m not prejudiced against mormons at all. Like I’ve said twice already, Romney’s mormonism isn’t the problem. YOURS is.”
Jack Ryan replies:
M’thinks Fred’s “obsession” is his hatred of me and some/all of my posts.
Hey Fred, lighten up – I’m not your enemy, in the real world after you got to know me a bit, you would prefer me as a neighbor, than say the Carr Brothers, M13 Latrino gang bangers, Al Qaeda terrorists or White Gentile hating Jew – Tim Wise.
Why not go out for a brisk walk, unwind a bit and then re-read my post with an open mind. It’s a pretty funny story about Steve Cowan becoming OBSESSED with Bristol Palin being on Dancing With the Stars after his wife nagging him a bit/lot, Cowan goes off and shoots out his TV with a shot gun and the SWAT Team has to be called in to end the violent stand off.
🙂
It’s a funny story, but also a sad story – as one White man became OBSESSED with something that in the larger scheme of things, didn’t really matter that much.
So when you or someone you know starts to get obsessed with something not very important, please get away, get some help; we have so many more important things to be concerned with besides Bristol Palin being on Dancing With the Stars or some church affiliation of perfectly healthy, sane, effective White American leaders.
Ivan says:
“One would think that jack, who is against White men of principle becoming obsessed with some issues that just aren’t that important, would go straight to the crux of the problem – the jews. But no, he wants the two major and potentially lethal enemies of the jews – the White men of principle and the followers of Islam – be locked in a deadly fight. This sounds very jewish to me, jack.”
Jack Ryan replies:
No Ivan – that is most definitely not my position. Please read my post about Whites fighting both the Arab Muslim Moors and the Jews in Spain and my support for the Spanish Inquisition to take out Jewish intrigue in Spain and make Spain united – with White Spanish (Christians/Catholics) defeating both the Arab Muslim Moors and the Jews.
I suppor the Spanish Inquistion.
This is pretty tough Jew hating crowd to claim some White guy who supports the Spanish Inquisition is “soft on the Jews”.
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For you see Ivan, the Jewish Neo Conservative plan of destruction of White America and the remaining White world features open borders immigration in to White countries, including the mass immigration of NW Muslims. So when Nationalists Whites in say Sweden or England or Denmark resist the NW Muslim immigration invasion of their White nations, resist the rape of White girls by NW Muslim men (as is happening in great numbers in Sweden and England) Whites are not, I repeat NOT taking the Jew’s side. They, we are taking the common sense pro White side.
Average, mainstream White Americans do not, I repeat DO NOT like massive NW Muslim immigration/terrorism in America or in any White Country. Whites who claim to be “Nationalists” will get no where by making excuses for NW Muslim mass immigration in to the West, make denials or excuses for the 9/11/01 NW Muslim terrorist attack or the one these same Mudslime scum did to the WTC in 1993. How does Le Pen treat these issues: he opposes both the entire Jew Zionist program, including New Con Jew President of France Sarcozy and he opposes all NW Muslim immigration/terror in France – it’s a winning program.
Let’s try to win some things for a change, like we won the elections in virtually the entire South and most of the Midwest – stay clear of kooks and contrarians.
Jack Ryan replies:
M’thinks Fred’s “obsession” is his hatred of me and some/all of my posts.
First you said my “obsession” was with mormons. And now you say it’s “hatred” of you and your posts. Well, I do think you’re a dork but that’s not it. You should put your ego aside and consider some of my criticisms. You’ll be better off for it.
…the Arab – Muslim extremist attacks on the World Trade Center … in 2001.
So, you accept the 9/11 Commission Report as definitive?
Is this also the official opinion of this site?
Just asking.
If I remember correctly, Huckster signed the NumbersUSA pledge in 2008 before the South Carolina primary. I don’t remember Romney ever signing it.
The LDS is horrible on immigration.
Utah is represented in the Senate by Robert Bennett and Orrin Hatch. Right now the Utah Compact is making Sandstrom’s job in Utah harder.
Who was that RINO congressman from Utah? The big supporter of amnesty?
Mitt Romney lost states like New York, New Hampshire, California, New Jersey, Ohio, Wisconsin, Indiana, and Illinois.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)_presidential_primaries,_2008
Hunter Wallace says:
December 2, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Who was that RINO congressman from Utah? The big supporter of amnesty?
Jack Ryan replies:
You are referring to Chris Cannon – and yes you are correct, he was one of THE worst RINOs in the Congress. Chris Cannon will be prominently featured in our up-coming music video “Another One Bites the Dust” where we celebrate the death and defeats of so many of our political enemies/traitors this last year(s).
Chris Cannon was a particularly loathesome traitor as he was used by pro illegal alien amnesty forces to try to put a nice, White face on illegal alien amnesty – going with the idea that:
“Look – those nice, wholesome White guys from safe Conservative Utah like Rep. Chris Cannon and Sen Orin Hatch are for amnesty, so it can’t be anything bad”.
Chris Cannon got taken down and out, almost exclusively for his leadership on bad immigration, amnesty and it was one of our best wins and I would classify Chris Cannon as the 2nd worst RINO after Lindsey Graham.
jack ryan said: No Ivan – that is most definitely not my position. Please read my post about Whites fighting both the Arab Muslim Moors and the Jews in Spain and my support for the Spanish Inquisition to take out Jewish intrigue in Spain and make Spain united – with White Spanish (Christians/Catholics) defeating both the Arab Muslim Moors and the Jews.
This is an excellent statement, jack, for it gives me an opportunity to address the fallacy of your position in one big scoop.
First off, let me state for the record: Notwithstanding my Muslim identity, I would suspend for a couple of decades all immigration, legal and illegal, to all White nations in the world if I could do that by some magic, except perhaps immigration between those nations themselves.
Your position that Whites should fight all non Whites, including the Jews, is not only a strategic blunder – it is a recipe for disaster for the whole world, especially for the White people. It is wrong and misleading to think that Jewish problem, Negro problem, Muslim problem, Mestizo problem, etc are sibling problems. They are not problems at the same level. Jewish problem is at the root of all immigration problems. It was the Jews who opened the floodgates of immigration to White nations with the clear goal of bringing down the White race. You don’t fight immigration with skinheads on the streets of London or Madrid, you fight immigration by fighting jews and only jews. In this fight, you should leverage as much as you can the strong distaste the non Whites, especially Muslims, have for the Jews. After you defeat the Jew with all the help you can get from all Gentiles, you won’t have any unsolvable immigration problems.
As soon as Whites realize that they don’t have to fight billion strong non White herd at all – they just need to defeat few million of Jews all over the world working in strategic cooperation with non Whites, Muslims in particular, the situation does not look so desperate for the Whites any more. That’s the beauty of it, jack.
Talking about solving the Muslim immigration problem, Black-on-White crime problem, etc without emphasizing and without addressing first and foremost the mother of all those problems – the Jewish problem – is nothing but red herring.
Hunter Wallace writes:
“If I remember correctly, Huckster signed the NumbersUSA pledge in 2008 before the South Carolina primary. I don’t remember Romney ever signing it.”
Jack Ryan replies:
The Huckster was and is horrible on immigration and racial issues – I put him right up there with McCain. The Republican voting base was just so hostile to illegal immigration/amnesty that all contending Presidential candidates must eventual bow and sign something, saying they are for border enforcement or against illegal immigration/amnesty.
Here are some choice quotes from the Huckster about Latrino mass immigration and all should understand that Arkansas agriculture big business loves cheap Hispanic immigrant labor:
http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/002604.html
” [AR] Gov. Mike Huckabee on Thursday heaped criticism upon immigration legislation in the Arkansas Legislature, describing it as “inflammatory . . . race-baiting and demagoguery.” He also challenged the Christian values of its main sponsor.
Huckabee said the bill, seeking to forbid public assistance and voting rights to undocumented immigrants, “inflames those who are racist and bigots and makes them think there’s a real problem. But there’s not…”
…He singled out [Republican Sens. Jim Holt, one of the bill’s sponsors], who often talks of his strong Christian beliefs, saying, “I drink a different kind of Jesus juice. My faith says don’t make false accusations against somebody.
“In the Bible, it’s called don’t bear false witness.”
In response, Holt said he was hurt by the governor’s questioning his faith.
“I just want to uphold the law and protect the benefits that apply to citizens,” Holt said.
And Hunter, check out what the Huckster said about preserving White Southern heritage in Arkansas – Vdare reports that the Huckster made this speech to get this
The National Council of LaRaza!
http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2007/08/14/mike-huckabee-and-hispanics-vs-america/
“And finally, in Huckstering Huckabee, Patrick Cleburne pointed out what Huckabee said in a speech to the National Council Of La Raza:
“Pretty soon, Southern white guys like me may be in the minority,” Huckabee said jokingly as the crowd roared in laughter…He said Arkansas needs to make the transition from a traditional Southern state to one that recognizes and cherishes diversity “in culture, in language and in population.”
I think these quotes by the Huckster are as bad as any of the pandering Lisping South Carolina RINO Lindsey Graham did in his speech to LaRaza.
“Talking about solving the Muslim immigration problem, Black-on-White crime problem, etc without emphasizing and without addressing first and foremost the mother of all those problems – the Jewish problem – is nothing but red herring.”
An excellent point, Ivan-” the enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
Alix Says:
“…the Arab – Muslim extremist attacks on the World Trade Center … in 2001.
So, you accept the 9/11 Commission Report as definitive?
Is this also the official opinion of this site?
Just asking.”
I am in no position to speak to the official position of this blog, should one even exist. But, it is really only Jack Ryan that brings 9/11 up at all around here. Usually just some aside inserted into a blog posting or comment in an attempt to rile up us “truthers”.
His comments have bothered me in the past, but in the end 99% of the stuff posted here has nothing to do with 9/11. Actually, in a quick check it seems that some of the JR postings that riled me up in the past are no longer available…
Ivan says:
December 3, 2010 at 12:08 am
This is an excellent statement, jack, for it gives me an opportunity to address the fallacy of your position in one big scoop.
First off, let me state for the record: Notwithstanding my Muslim identity, I would suspend for a couple of decades all immigration, legal and illegal, to all White nations in the world if I could do that by some magic, except perhaps immigration between those nations themselves.
Jack Ryan responds:
Thank you for being honest with us and sharing your “Muslim identity”. I think most people here, including me have no problem respecting honorable, White, whiter Muslim people in the world.
And it may soon come to the point where large parts of formerly White Europe are lost to the Muslims – to Islam because of massive immigration, high Muslim birth rates, low White birth rates and conversions of Whites who can’t stand the corrupt, liberal/leftist/homosexual/materialistic/athiest Western culture that has come down to us since th 1960s.
If we lose large parts of Europe to the Muslims/Islam – Whites there might have to make a similar choice that Whites in Eastern Europe made when the Communist conquered Central and Eastern Europe. Whites accepted ths situation, joined the Communist party and tried to make the best of things, tried to make “Socialism” more White, more European, less Jew Bolshevik. And Whites were largely successful in doing just this after say 1960.
Now back to your position focusing on THE JEW as the root of the West’s/White world’s problems, particularly concerning immigration.
I am certainly open to anyone who has some realistic, effective way of taking down Jewish power in the USA/the West. We did defeat many terrible Jew Senators in the recent elections (Arlen Specter, Feingold in WI).
My view is, I only want to support things that work.
And running around, madly waving one’s arms and shouting:
“It’s the JEWS, THEY CONTROL EVERYTHING, THEY’RE THE CHLDREN OF THE DEVIL, HITLER WAS RIGHT, THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED, IT’S ALL A BIG JEWISH CONSPIRACY”.
This just doesn’t work well or really at all in mainstream White America.
Also, Jews are very smart and very powerful in the USA – they don’t control EVERYTHING, but they certainly have great power, enough power to crush some lone White guy running around screaming “IT’s THE JEWS”.
And I am sorry Ivan for saying this – as you sound like an intelligent, honorable Muslim, but huge parts of the worst areas of the non White World are nominally “Muslim” and the centuries old conflict between Christianity and Islam in Europe, Balkans and North Africa has been overwhelming a racial conflict of Whites (Christians) against Non Whites (Arabs, Turks, Blacks). The Algerian war in French Algeria in the 1950s is what I see coming down the pike and I hope the White side comes out on top.
Ivan, we have to take the side of the Whites and except for Bosnian Muslims, High Persian Muslims, Turks with lots of European blood (from conquests) – Muslims are not White. Mohammed Atta was one ugly looking NW Muslim.
But, Ivan – I wish you all the best. Please consider working with David Duke – he is with your program and works a lot with Muslims against the Zionists.
Peace – and please try to get the Saudi rulers to improve their gene pool, maybe get some Finnish winter olympians to donate sperm to impregnate some Saudi Princesses. Those Saudi royals look as ugly as the worst Jews.
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Alix says:
December 2, 2010 at 11:38 pm
…the Arab – Muslim extremist attacks on the World Trade Center … in 2001.
So, you accept the 9/11 Commission Report as definitive?
Is this also the official opinion of this site?
Just asking.
Jack Ryan replies:
Alix – it’s Hunter’s blog, his rules for comments prohibit “conspiracy theory comments” are presented here:
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2010/10/02/comment-guidelines-2/
Hunter states:
8.) Conspiracy Theories – There are any number of websites that cater to conspiracy theories. This isn’t one of them.
“His comments have bothered me in the past, but in the end 99% of the stuff posted here has nothing to do with 9/11.”
Jack specializes in posting inconsequential trivia, dwelling on irrelevant “topics” (i.e.: Cindy McCains political views) and “critiquing” really bad two decade old movies.
Usually just some aside inserted into a blog posting or comment in an attempt to rile up us “truthers”.
That’s his standard mode of operation. He throws so many passive aggressive digs at so many people its hard to know at whom their aimed.
Jacob C.:
… 99% of the stuff posted here has nothing to do with 9/11.
Thank you, Jacob I’ve noticed that absence. And I really didn’t expect an “official” response, but I couldn’t resist asking the question.
All told, I like this site.
jack ryan said: But, Ivan – I wish you all the best. Please consider working with David Duke – he is with your program and works a lot with Muslims against the Zionists.
jack, this reminds me of the statement released by CNN in a swift blow against its former anchor Rick Sanchez delivered literally within few hours after he had the imprudence of showing openly his obsession with some issue that just isn’t that important: Rick Sanchez is no longer with the company. We thank Rick for his years of service and we wish him well
Is this a polite way of saying: Ivan’s comments are no longer welcome at this blog?
Ivan says:
December 3, 2010 at 4:34 pm
jack ryan said: But, Ivan – I wish you all the best. Please consider working with David Duke – he is with your program and works a lot with Muslims against the Zionists.
jack, this reminds me of the statement released by CNN in a swift blow against its former anchor Rick Sanchez…
Is this a polite way of saying: Ivan’s comments are no longer welcome at this blog?
Jack Ryan replies:
Ivan this isn’t my call in any way, this is Hunter’s blog. My feeling is that Hunter is going mainstream – Southern state populist/conservative mainstream and this entails just “implicit Whiteness”, not publicly “naming the Jews”, but strongly opposing the Jewish Neo Conservative/Zionist/Marxist Jew programs. Mainstream folks in the South are just not up for radically new ideas like working with Muslims against the Zionists or trying to re-educate patriotic Americans in the South that World War II was all wrong and folks need to stop being patriotic about WWII and learn to appreciate the anti Zionist Muslim leader of Iran etc – this stuff just doesn’t “play in Peoria” much less the US Confederate South. Hell Ivan, these mainstream Southern Confederates don’t go for White blond/blue eyed “Yankees” like me, much less any type of strange, foreign Ay-rab Muslims or other types of strange Muslims that supposedly take the White side like you.
🙂
I will probably be off of O.D. in the not too distant future as the comments section is just too toxic, negative – has all kinds of frustrations, personal WN hatreds going back 20 years and lots of folks just simply hate me, hate my taste in music, film, fiction, movies, comedy etc to the point where they will slag off on JRR Tolkien and even ABBA.
So, yes – I recommend that you go support David Duke as he is/has been working with Muslims on anti Zionist, White Nationalists and Arab/Muslim nationalists alliance projects.
Take care Ivan – and please pass the word to many of the 1 billion NW Muslims in the world to stay at home as the White women in Chicago are not all super sexy Playboy Bunnies, most are no fun, career women looking to hose some guy in a divorce settlement and waste their lives watching “Oprah” and supporting the likes of HILLARY or Carol Mosley Braun.
🙂 Just kidding (well, not really 🙂
Stay strong Ivan
JR
One of the most effective real world activists I’ve ever known, and known well, is Chuck Carlson. His organization and website is WHTT, We Hold These Truths. His focus is on fighting the Zionist takeover of Christian churches, leaders and followers. In addition to his ongoing writings and videos, he and others conduct “Strait Gate vigils” which involve picketing Christian Zionist services and events. In the course of his years of work, which he began as an individual in his basement, he has built up groups in Arizona and Colorado. Much of his work is done with the involvement and assistance of Muslims, for whom he has gained much respect.
jack ryan said: Mainstream folks in the South are just not up for radically new ideas like working with Muslims against the Zionists or trying to re-educate patriotic Americans in the South that World War II was all wrong and folks need to stop being patriotic about WWII and learn to appreciate the anti Zionist Muslim leader of Iran etc – this stuff just doesn’t ‘play in Peoria’ much less the US Confederate South. Hell Ivan, these mainstream Southern Confederates don’t go for White blond/blue eyed ‘Yankees’ like me, much less any type of strange, foreign Ay-rab Muslims or other types of strange Muslims that supposedly take the White side like you.
jack, I know something about mainstream folks in the South. I’ve being living in Texas for almost 20 years now – it does not get any ‘souther’ than that. And I would be the first to admit: Yes, you are absolutely right about that.
Have you ever pondered over a fascinating fact of life: Given the same set of facts and evidence, two reasonably rational and intelligent men can arrive at different and absolutely opposite conclusions. Why is that? The reason is two-fold and basically very simple:
1. The two parties have different, and often times opposing, objectives
2. The two parties have different priors, in other words, they have vastly different knowledge base.
At the beginning of the 17th century neither the Roman Church nor the scientific community at large was ready for the heliocentric view of the world, but that neither discouraged nor prevented Galileo Galilei from charging ahead and laying down the foundations of the modern science.
Things change, jack, and they can change with swift vengeance once the bifurcation point in history has been reached. We are rapidly approaching that point.
Ivan says:
December 3, 2010 at 8:01 pm (Edit)
Things change, jack, and they can change with swift vengeance once the bifurcation point in history has been reached. We are rapidly approaching that point.
Jack Ryan replies:
I would like to think that “things change” for the better and some times, I can see that they do, at least in some places, in some small ways. But, most of the times I see people doing the same old, same old, really stubborn, really stupid, pointless stuff – take that ridiculous multi $ billion Dallas Cowboys football stadium down in Texas, where you have lived. With all of the horrible problems my people face in this – what used to be “our country” these Texans build this huge, monstrosity of a Football temple. And the paying customers can’t even just watch the live football game there, they need to have the largest TV screen in the world hanging over 2/3rds of the field, so they can watch the live game on TV!
So it’s not all some Jewish Zionist conspiracy that puts Jug Ears Texan George W. Bush in to the Presidency – huge numbers of “my people” are really dumb as* idiot/goyim and I have to find ways to work with these people as they are.
But, enough of my complaints.
Ivan, I can see that you are an honest, honorable man and I wish you success in your life – hope that you can find some place to make a good go of things and not give in to despair. I’m always searching… staying just ahead of the knives pointed at my back…. lot’s knives pointed at my back here on O.D. – oh well, that’s life.
Take care Ivan.
JR