We’ve introduced OD readers to Wilmot Robertson’s brilliant analysis of America’s political and cultural racial wars (The Dispossessed Majority), listing 5 types of White American traitors:
1) Pussyfooters (most common)
2) Gracchites (rich elitists championing the NW masses)
3) Trucklers (lower class Whites going with the NW flow for wealth and power)
4) Old Believers/True Believers (seeking to restore the past, make the whole world White “American”, “Christian”, “Constitutionalist” etc)
5) Proditors (violently obsessed with destroying their/our own people)
Today we will focus on #4 the Old Believers. Old Believers like Pat Robertson and Ron Paul see the modern American world as deeply flawed (yes, they are right) – they hope to solve the horrible problems of our present day (including genocidal, anti White racial problems) by returning our country to:
The way things used to be… in some mythical, golden age (White) past – before the social & economic upheavals of the 1960s, before the Great Society Welfare State or before the New Deal, before the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, or before the terrible 20th Century, or before the Civil War -etc. Old Believers want to take America back to an original, strict interpretation of the US Constitution (Blacks were 3/5 of a man then, and troublesome, Leftist women like Hillary Clinton couldn’t even vote) and somehow the Black flash mobs now terrorizing Chicago will listen to reason. What about the Al Qaedda Islamic terrorists let in to the US on unsupervised student visas, or the Mexican Zeta cartels, Mestizo M13/Latin Kings/LaRaza gang bangers? Old Believers BELIEVE that these terrifying Non White groups will listen to the sincere, reasonable speeches of Ron Paul and/or Pat Robertson and then they will read Ron Paul and/or Pat Robertson’s books. Then, all of these other NW people will somehow agree to renounce racial collectivism and become good, solid Christian/Constitutionalist Americans embracing the small town, American principles of say – the John Burch Society:
“Less Government
More Responsibility
and – With God’s Help – a Better World”
Like traitorous White “Pussyfooters” (lots of overlap) Old Believer White traitors don’t hate our/their White American people – far from it. They want to share the safe, reasonable, prosperous White American world/culture/philosophy with…
The entire Non White World!
Here’s a link to a Ron Paul TV interview with former AIPAC lobbyist Wolf Blitzer. Ron Paul tries to deny that ever wrote, said or thought anything White RACIST – and that he lives to spread the one true gospel truth of his race denying Libertarian/Constitutionalist cult.
What do we do with Old Believers? Just as it’s true “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks” – It’s virtually impossible to get Old Believers to change their ways. Old Believers tend to be very old – Ron Paul is 78 and Pat Robertson is 82. It’s best to treat them as old, family relatives, who are tolerated at family reunions. We wish they would retire and not embarrass our (White) families by doing foolish things like entering the NBA slam dunk competition or running for President of the United States and pushing their race denying Old Believer politics on the voting public, but that’s what Old American men do.
Most OD Readers, writers and editors will live to be old White men, or else we will be dead. If we do make it to an old, golden age – we hope not to be embarrassing, betraying our people like these Old Believers.
Idk how old they are, necessarily. Some of the younger military I’ve met seem that way. Went in as patriots, couldn’t fully process the betrayals, so they evolve a sort of hyper-focus, blocking out anything that isn’t the ‘proud to be an American’ commercials on t.v. Stick like glue to the zionist-patriot-christian type who worship them, making their worlds ever smaller— so as not to notice what doesn’t fit the “I am a patriot,” idea.
Imo, that’s why RP got military support. (Not because he was talking about “Unjust Wars”—- but because, at heart, they respond and shared his “Old Believer” deal.)
“Ron Paul tries to deny that ever wrote, said or thought anything White RACIST – and that he lives to spread the one true gospel truth of his race denying Libertarian/Constitutionalist cult. ”
According to RP in the debates:
Blacks are put upon victims of racism due to the War on Drugs
Blacks are put upon victims of racism who are more likely than whites to be given the death penalty (Not true in any case)
Illegal immigrants in America are treated like the Jews in Nazi Germany
“Racism” explains why most Americans want to reduce immigration.
Thank God this old fool came in last in the GOP primaries.
Page needs a reteeet button, to rt hunter wallace’s tweets instead of only the original tweet button.
Yes, Bernie – those were terrible, RP pandering comments.
At least Pat Robertson is funny. Ever see him on The 700 Club when he and his black co-host (haven’t seen him for a while but he looked like Uncle Remus) close their eyes and “see” or “detect” the prayers of his followers?
Speaking of “Old Believer” fools, look at how many on this site have supported, at some point in time, voting for Romney (including our esteemed host.)
I’m a big fan of the Old Ways, but they won’t work in a multicut nation, or in a multi-ethnic White nation
In defense of Pat Robertson, it is true that the Haitian Revolution originated in a voodoo ceremony in which the god of the blacks – Satan, presumably – was called upon to destroy the god of the Whites.
This is common knowledge in Haiti today.
Umm no.
We never believed in Romney. He was just better than Gingrich and Santorum on immigration.
Rudel says:
June 26, 2012 at 4:44 pm (Edit)
Speaking of “Old Believer” fools, look at how many on this site have supported, at some point in time, voting for Romney (including our esteemed host.)
Jack Ryan replies:
Please learn the differences between the 5 separate (some overlap – mostly with pussyfooters) types of American White traitors.
1) Pussyfooters (most common)
2) Gracchites (rich elitists championing the NW masses)
3) Trucklers (lower class Whites going with the NW flow for wealth and power)
4) Old Believers/True Believers (seeking to restore the past, make the whole world White “American”, “Christian”, “Constitutionalist” etc)
5) Proditors (violently obsessed with destroying their/our own people)
Mitt Romney – like George Bush Sr. is a # 1) Pussyfooter – he tries to get along with everyone and while he shows no strong hatred against his/our White people, he rarely if ever defends our people when we are insulted or attacked, raped, murdered etc.
Mitt Romney isn’t an Old Believer – if he was an LDS/Mormon Old Believer he would be working for a separate all White LDS/Mormon nation and adhering to the LDS/Mormon Church’s strict policy prohibiting Black priests, racial inter-marriage laws that were in place in the LDS church up through the 1970s.
Mitt Romney and George Bush Sr. always wear a clean, crisp White preppy shirt and are always glad handling whoever is in the room. Pussyfooters will agree with….
Whoever is in the room, being sincere that they are are “Conservative” in a room full of Conservatives – “Moderate” in a room full of moderates, for traditional family values in a room full of Religious Right folks, but, tolerant and understanding in a room full of gay people.
And of course when invited to be insulted and humiliated by Black/NW groups like the NAACP, pussyfooters will grovel and pander – they are after all….
Pussies, pussyfooters.
Romney wins in a landslide that ties his hands. A landslide would be a total repudiation of Obama. Romney can’t continue Obama’s policies without incurring the wrath of the populace. White leaders, when not given an Obama to blame things on, will have to respond to white voters.
Anyways, we want the GOP to be put in a position where they have to put up or shut up. If they have control of both houses and the presidency and continue anti-citizen policies (Obama’s policies are anti-citizen, never mind anti-white), then more focused parties can emerge since the GOP is no longer responsive to its base. This won’t become apparent unless the GOP has a strong position at the federal level.
The best thing that Romney voters could do in the event of a Romney victory is march on Washington the week of the inauguration with a single message “Ignore us and trample on us at your peril.” They shouldn’t ever admit to being ecstatic at Romney’s victory – they should have a “trust but verify” attitude since all elites – both demo and GOP – have lost legitimacy.
Excellent post, Jack, as always!
I am sympathetic to those guys. For people used to what they though was one prosperous continent sized country “from sea to shining sea” and that Lincoln (spit!) was a “good guy” becoming a separationist is a hard pill to swallow. I had a bit of effort getting it down.
Even though I have roots (granted shallow) in the South and the Rebel West I find the idea , I guess sad.
As such I really can’t blame them for wanting say 1940 (90% White) or even 1980 (80% White) even though its simply not possible. It seems like it could be glorious and better than a seven or nine or however many ethnostates.
Thank you Lily – please twitter, forward any of my articles that you think your friends, neighbors, family, co-workers might appreciate. But of course, protect your privacy, especially with anything associated with your job.
Sad as it is to admit – pussyfooters like Romney and the Bush Family are financially and socially successful, whereas those of us who are “outed” as RACISTS tend to be marginalized in BRA.
Before even looking, I knew this article was by Jack Ryan. Jack Ryan is probably the most anti-Ron Paul person on any race-realist site. He foams and attacks when he sees people endorse Paul. Rudel, we’re all conspiracy nuts to him.
I understand why Paul danced around Wolf Blitzer’s attack. He would have gone real far if he had endorsed them. I saw plenty of dancing with all the Repulican candidates. Paul knows the American people are easily persuaded by the media. He also knows the federal government is our biggest problem but some on this site don’t see that….. yet.
Perhaps the leaking of those earlier “racist” newsletters was a wink, wink, nod, nod.
I like Paul for what I know he can and will do. There is no such thing as a perfect candidate. I’ve come to accept that. And the smaller issues I don’t agree with him on, and prefer he had different views on, dwarf the issues that are important at the moment. Making any headway is better than going backwards.
As for age and looks, shallow reasons not to endorse a candidate. He’s in great health. No wonder we’re in this mess.
Mr Ryan, you nail the problem with Ron Paul very well. I’ll assume with Robertson too. Paul is an old fashioned liberal, a.k.a. libertarian, that still believes in Liberalism. I think many of us, myself included, have fallen into old belief without realizing the implications. Paul showing his softness on immigration and race relations were wake up calls.
I wouldn’t say Romney is an Old Believer. He’s either a Gracchite or Truckler, depending upon on how he derived his wealth. I don’t blame any White person for scraping the barrel of rationality to find reasons for supporting him. That’s just an indication of how bad the present political situation is.
more of the same says:
June 26, 2012 at 5:20 pm (Edit)
Mr Ryan, you nail the problem with Ron Paul very well. I’ll assume with Robertson too. Paul is an old fashioned liberal, a.k.a. libertarian, that still believes in Liberalism. I think many of us, myself included, have fallen into old belief without realizing the implications. Paul showing his softness on immigration and race relations were wake up calls.
Jack Ryan responds.
Well said. And again – I encourage OD readers to read Wilmot Robertson’s the Dispossessed Majority and become very familiar with the 5 types of White American traitors to our people:
1) Pussyfooters
2) Gracchites
3) Trucklers
4) Old Believers/True Believers
5) Proditors
“more of the same” and others – please understand that I recognize that Libertarians and Liberals like Ron Paul are usually very nice, sincere White people and in a different (all middle class White) world they would be good political leaders. But in the violent, racially chaotic world we live in, with millions of low IQ, hostile Non Whites invading our country, with once prosperous White cities falling down in to Haiti levels of Black violence, disease and corruption – these sincere, kind old, VERY, OLD White men, Old Believers (Constitutionalists, Libertarian, Liberals) they are like fish out of water – they can’t handle this new, dangerous non White America and we can not entrust the future of our White children to these weak, old White men.
Old White men like Ron Paul and Pat Robertson can still do decent things with the rest of their lives – but being elected White American leaders and confronting the horrible racial problems our people face – that’s not something for old, White men dreaming of living in the past. Please do not enable Old White men, Old Believers to do foolish things in their old age.
So Snowhitey, the question remains are you supporting Obama by voting RP this year (again)?
Because that worked so well in 2008…
Before even looking, I knew this article was by Jack. Jack, what do you think of the Constitution?
I focus on the things I like about him, not the lesser issues that are unfortunate. And those lesser issues wouldn’t stop me from voting for him. The overgrown federal government, the Federal Reserve, the endless wars, rampant taxes, and the freedom of association are IMPORTANT to me. There’d be no Fast & Furious with a Paul administration. He knows the media is corrupt. He doesn’t believe the government should tell businesses who to hire or who people should sell their houses to, he’d end emminent domain and affirmative action, he’d end the IRS, the DOE, the DOED (and the dumbing down of our people), etc. These are the reasons why people DO vote for him. He believes in family farms and not big agri. As for SS, he says he wouldn’t stop it for people who have already paid into it but he would try to get the young off of it. No such thing as the perfect candidate.
I just love the way people love to bash him. They probably quote RP more than any other candidate.
Amanda,
Paul wasn’t on the general election ballot in 2008. I voted for him in the primary. I voted McCain and that worked out quite well, didn’t it?
You’re under the delusion that a Romney win will end a lot of our problems or stop the mess that’s up ahead. You’ll get the same problems with a white face just at a slower pace. Anyone who the establishment dismisses is a threat to the establishment. That is a guarantee.
Romney’s VP pick will say a lot. So voting Romney/Rubio will work out great for us? You’ll be sold out regardless of who gets elected.
As they say… with age comes wisdom. That applies to candidate and voter alike.
Amanda,
If you think voting for the lesser of two evils (and the lesser of two evils is still evil) will serve our nation well, you’ll get more of the same until eternity. Perhaps the problem lies with what we always get “stuck with.” Why is that? We end up always voting against someone instead of voting for someone. Hmmmm. Maybe some of the brighter minds on this site can enlighten me.
How many people on this site are 100% behind Romney? Are you settling, folks? Is he that great white hope we’ve all been waiting for? Is he an insider but somehow different? What’s his record… Obamacare phase 1, wasn’t it? Sheldon Adelson supports Romney. You know, that dual-citizenship kike who puts Israel before the US. Sounds like a plan to me.
Snowhitey writes:
“He (Ron Paul) doesn’t believe the government should tell businesses who to hire or who people should sell their houses to”
Jack Ryan responds:
And there is the killer flaw of Libertarianism as selfish (White) business owners will look to hire the lowest (NW) cost workers to increase their own (selfish) short term profits. Read the OD article about the Georgia Onion King who insists that he needs NW illegal alien workers to work HIS onion fields as (White) American workers are just not willing to work 7 days a week, 12 hours a day in the hot sun for (sub minimum) wages.
It’s not supposed to be called “slavery” because his NW illegal alien workers are volunteering to work for him at market rates, but in the longer range racial scheme of things, the results are the same as NW slavery. The NW illegal aliens/slaves will not happy to be sub minimum wage slaves for ever – there will be slave revolts and the children of the “hard working” NW field workers will be given US citizenship under the terms of birth-right-citizenship and then the low IQ non White children flood the public schools, destroy the public schools, form Latino gangs, get scholarships to college in majors like Chicano studies and then before you know it rural George looks like Nogales Mexico or Los Angeles Mexifornia.
So to answer your implied question Snowhitey –
No we’re not going to let RP or that traitorous Onion King in Georgia hire whoever they want to hire.
We will control the government and we will tell White business owners they must only hire White Americans or some White European guest workers, they can’t flood our communities with Somalians, Mexicans etc. Go ahead scream at us that
“YOU’RE SOCIALIST” or worse
“YOU’RE RACIST”.
Yeah. Whatever.
Ron Paul and Pat Robertson can do some honest physical labor instead of trying to force their race denying Old Believer policies on America. And if Ron Paul and Pat Robertson are too old and tired to do honest physical labor, they should…
Retire – not run for President of the United States again and again and again.
Listen, outside of your family you your vote will always contain a little bit of evil.
We always vote for the lesser of two evils, and the more evil the farther out you go. That’s what limited government is about. Not voting for the greatest candidate who will create the greatest government ever, but voting for the least amount of evil we can get in the necessary evil of government.
We’re not voting for Jesus. We’re voting for men. Even if it’s Adams vs. Jefferson, you’re voting for the lesser of two evils. That is how our founders would have had us see it, and that’s how it should be.
I don’t know what I be doin’… sheeit….. whitey face be as two-faced as mulatto face….
sheeit…. those two bozos both be sellin’ us down the river… my ancestors were sold down the river……f88k….. sheeit but at least we be havin some some southern fried chicken and watermelon every once in awhile….
f88k…… now we be all eatin’ chop suey…. we all be goin’ down the gangzee- or whatever that river be where they make the fortune cookies……f88k…
now you crackers be goin’ on the same boat down the same river as us niggas…..
practice using those chop sticks crackers….. no utensils down here in the slave cabin….
sheeit….. there ain’t nothin’ here but pickin’ cotton….chop suey…. and massa’s dog barkin’ at us niggas…..sheeit you whiteys f88ked us all up…..
Snowhitey writes:
“Romney’s VP pick will say a lot. So voting Romney/Rubio will work out great for us? You’ll be sold out regardless of who gets elected.”
Jack Ryan responds:
No. You’re mistaken. The US Vice President has virtually no power – the only thing the VP can do is break a tie vote in the US Senate. So sticking Marco Rubio – a spoiled Cuban brat who “feels for the Mexicans who want to illegally immigrate to the US to put more food on the table for their obese Mexican children” – sticking him in the powerless VP spot isn’t such a bad idea, he would have way less power than a US Senator.
We at OD are in the real world contenting for real power. We’re not lost in some Liberal/Libertarain never-never dream land pretending that the US doesn’t have any racial problems and everything can be solved by promoting “free market economics”.
Everyone, please don’t feed the Libertarians, don’t let them across your threshold or they will never leave.
“Mitt Romney and George Bush Sr. always wear a clean, crisp White preppy shirt”
Although this WN site like most others is directed towards the lower orders I personally find nothing offensive about either preppies or white shirts (they go well with any tie.)
That said, even with the acceptance of the necessity of voting for the lesser evil, I have not yet been convinced that Romney will be less evil than Obama. Not that I will vote for Obama. But I am reminded of how thankful we were to get Clinton out then were rewarded Bush. We know how that went.
Obama will look like Clinton after six months of Romney.
Obama is limited by his fractured, broken personality. Romney is a doer. Romney will get it done. And it’s going to be ugly. It his highly likely this country will lose it’s last remaining shred of sovereignty under Romney. And it will be done very businesslike and matter-of-factly. Without a peep from the right.
I say: Hurrah for Old Believers!
So-called conservatives who do not seek to conserve what is true and right are not conservative! Let’s draw the line now, and take a stand either on the side of conserving the right that has been known of old, or on the side of creating a radical new world that “old fogey’s” cannot imagine.
Snowhitey, you’re right on target!
Snowhitey is not even remotely on target.
“Jack Ryan responds:
And there is the killer flaw of Libertarianism as selfish (White) business owners will look to hire the lowest (NW) cost workers to increase their own (selfish) short term profits. Read the OD article about the Georgia Onion King who insists that he needs NW illegal alien workers to work HIS onion fields as (White) American workers are just not willing to work 7 days a week, 12 hours a day in the hot sun for (sub minimum) wages.”
Snowhitey responds:
I’m not what you’d call a Libertarian. Most Paul supporters aren’t. You’re not going to stop the Hispanic tide with an establishment candidate. I look at it that Paul won’t tell businesses they have to hire incompetent minorities. He states it in those types of contexts. If you don’t want to sell your house to someone with six fingers, well, you don’t have to. Boycott the sellouts. Don’t buy from people that hire illegals. But, noooo Americans, want cheap food. There’s your problem. The person hiring needs to be alienated and boycotted. We don’t want cheap Chinese “stuff” yet putting cheap food in our bodies is acceptable. What a mindset Americans have. We still have cheap food and oil so most Americans don’t even see the inflation, courtesy of the Federal Reserve. These people know you better than you know yourself.
And, the path your on, we will NEVER control the government. We don’t now, do we? I mean, do we even control the “white” party? Can’t seem to get a candidate with the interests of white Americans out of the Republican Party, can we? Does the Republican Party want to discuss race? Yes, when trying to woo minorities which will never work and never end!
“Jack Ryan responds:
No. You’re mistaken. The US Vice President has virtually no power – the only thing the VP can do is break a tie vote in the US Senate. So sticking Marco Rubio – a spoiled Cuban brat who “feels for the Mexicans who want to illegally immigrate to the US to put more food on the table for their obese Mexican children” – sticking him in the powerless VP spot isn’t such a bad idea, he would have way less power than a US Senator.”
Snowhitey responds:
You’re kidding. Vice Presidents have more power than you state. And, Lyndon Johnson and Gerald Ford both ended up with a lot of power. And it was Biden and his loose mouth that most likely got Obama to endorse gay marriage.
Jack, I used to convince myself that it was better to vote for the lesser of two evils. I eventually woke up. Your spinning your wheels.
I don’t want a Rubio or a Romney or an Obama or a Biden or a Santorum or a Gingrich. To even consider any of them as an alternative is mind-boggling. The only thing about Romney that can’t be disputed is he looks good.
Yes, Vice President Rubio would have little power, but would be symbolic — unless of course the President would die.
“Snowhitey is not even remotely on target.” In this discussion I think he is.
There seems to be an immense divide between those who voted Neocon in the primaries and those who voted for Paul.
Paul would be CLEARLY less evil than Obama, while Romney and the other Neocons are NOT SO CLEARLY less evil — at least as seen from a Northern, mostly GERMANIC, White point of view.
I voted for Reagan both terms. I voted for Bush Sr. first term, Clinton second (I know, I know). I voted for Dole and I voted for Bush Jr. both times. Then I voted for McCain. I felt sick voting for McCain but I did it to stop Obama. Did I stop him? Never ended up with anyone who put America first. Reagan tried and those votes are the only ones I don’t regret. FYI, Reagan also refused to sell out South Africa. That is a fact. That’s the first thing Clinton did. White Americans continued to be disposessed. Some pople think because the majority of faces in WDC are white that us ordinary white folks still have power. You tell me, do we?
I’m a she, I’m a she.
“I’m a she, I’m a she.”
Thanks, sorry about the mis-pronoun.
Thanks also for consistently voting for the lesser evils. It is one way of slowing or turning the tide.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/german-court-prohibits-circumcisions/
German judges rule parents can be brought to court for circumcising childrenWhen not performed out of medical necessity, circumcisions constitute a ‘severe and irreversible interference into physical integrity,’ Cologne judges ruleBy Raphael Ahren June 26, 2012, 10:49 am
Let’s see if I am right.
Whether Obama or Romney gets elected, I believe we will have far less rights after either one leaves office. And, he’ll do it under the guise of terrorism. I also predict whites will continue to decline in numbers through immigraton as will the market and our standard of living. Since most of the weapons and ammunition manufacturers are being bought up by hedge funds, that is a possible method of reigning in our second amendment. Not sure if they will try to seize them but if they do I predict it will either be successful or a flashpoint for revolution. No in betweens. I believe Paul will have more followers after the first 4 years and then even more after the subsequent 4 years. Since Paul will be leaving politics this year, I really shouldn’t call them followers but people with regrets.
Whomever wins, the United States will Collapse!
With Obumbles the Kenyan Clown, it will be a Bloody Crash Scene.
With Magic Underwear, it will be a sudden stop with people getting lost and confused.
I, for one, prefer the latter to the former. A vote for that Old Fool Paul is a vote wasted.
“A vote for that Old Fool Paul is a vote wasted.”
You can’t vote for Paul as he isn’t running in the general election. If you want to go Libertarian you have to vote for Gary Johnson (a former Republican candidate.)
Yes, “that Old Fool Paul,” that VERY OLD “German Blockhead” is really MUCH too old to think clearly, and make good decisions, and he was especially foolish to waste the effort and expense to run with such an intelligent electorate!
Mosin Nagant and Rudel, the media has been very successful in convincing these race realists that Paul is a joke. Aside from government schools, heck, those Jewish necons have completely changed the Republican Party in what 20 years?
Paul is mostly German with some Irish. Being Irish, I want to claim that.
“You can’t vote for Paul as he isn’t running….” Too late to change your mind about Romney now.
Interesting, Snowhitey. He is of nearly 90% Germanic ancestry, Hohenzollern. Romney is the opposite, nearly all Anglo.
Has Romney EVER said anything as wise as Paul’s “Racial Violence Will Fill Our Cities!” and “I think we can assume that 95 percent of the black men in that city (Washington) are semi-criminal or entirely criminal”?
http://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/the-ancestry-of-ron-paul-the-german-candidate/
I agree that Paul would be the least of all evils. But if I accept that fact that voting is a monstrous moral compromise, no matter who is running, than I accept that should at least make it count. Which leaves Romney or Obama.
So, we wake up the morning after the election. What do we want to see? If nothing miraculous happens at the Florida convention, we’re going to have garbage on our plate no matter what.
So what about this headline: The lowest white turnout in Presidential election history.
Total illegitimacy the morning after the election, and the whole world knows it. TOTAL ILLEGITIMACY. No getting around it. That would be the best of all possible outcomes, and it is within our grasp. Turn away lest it turn you to salt.
“Eye of Horus says:
June 26, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Whomever wins, the United States will Collapse!
With Obumbles the Kenyan Clown, it will be a Bloody Crash Scene.
With Magic Underwear, it will be a sudden stop with people getting lost and confused.
I, for one, prefer the latter to the former. A vote for that Old Fool Paul is a vote wasted.”
Yuppers.