We’ve introduced OD readers to Wilmot Robertson’s brilliant analysis of America’s political and cultural racial wars (The Dispossessed Majority), listing 5 types of White American traitors:
1) Pussyfooters (most common)
2) Gracchites (rich elitists championing the NW masses)
3) Trucklers (lower class Whites going with the NW flow for wealth and power)
4) Old Believers/True Believers (seeking to restore the past, make the whole world White “American”, “Christian”, “Constitutionalist” etc)
5) Proditors (violently obsessed with destroying their/our own people)
Today we will focus on #4 the Old Believers. Old Believers like Pat Robertson and Ron Paul see the modern American world as deeply flawed (yes, they are right) – they hope to solve the horrible problems of our present day (including genocidal, anti White racial problems) by returning our country to:
The way things used to be… in some mythical, golden age (White) past – before the social & economic upheavals of the 1960s, before the Great Society Welfare State or before the New Deal, before the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, or before the terrible 20th Century, or before the Civil War -etc. Old Believers want to take America back to an original, strict interpretation of the US Constitution (Blacks were 3/5 of a man then, and troublesome, Leftist women like Hillary Clinton couldn’t even vote) and somehow the Black flash mobs now terrorizing Chicago will listen to reason. What about the Al Qaedda Islamic terrorists let in to the US on unsupervised student visas, or the Mexican Zeta cartels, Mestizo M13/Latin Kings/LaRaza gang bangers? Old Believers BELIEVE that these terrifying Non White groups will listen to the sincere, reasonable speeches of Ron Paul and/or Pat Robertson and then they will read Ron Paul and/or Pat Robertson’s books. Then, all of these other NW people will somehow agree to renounce racial collectivism and become good, solid Christian/Constitutionalist Americans embracing the small town, American principles of say – the John Burch Society:
“Less Government
More Responsibility
and – With God’s Help – a Better World”
Like traitorous White “Pussyfooters” (lots of overlap) Old Believer White traitors don’t hate our/their White American people – far from it. They want to share the safe, reasonable, prosperous White American world/culture/philosophy with…
The entire Non White World!
Here’s a link to a Ron Paul TV interview with former AIPAC lobbyist Wolf Blitzer. Ron Paul tries to deny that ever wrote, said or thought anything White RACIST – and that he lives to spread the one true gospel truth of his race denying Libertarian/Constitutionalist cult.
What do we do with Old Believers? Just as it’s true “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks” – It’s virtually impossible to get Old Believers to change their ways. Old Believers tend to be very old – Ron Paul is 78 and Pat Robertson is 82. It’s best to treat them as old, family relatives, who are tolerated at family reunions. We wish they would retire and not embarrass our (White) families by doing foolish things like entering the NBA slam dunk competition or running for President of the United States and pushing their race denying Old Believer politics on the voting public, but that’s what Old American men do.
Most OD Readers, writers and editors will live to be old White men, or else we will be dead. If we do make it to an old, golden age – we hope not to be embarrassing, betraying our people like these Old Believers.
I would like to get the comments section here back to the topic of:
Wilmot Robertson’s classification of Old Believer White American traitors to our White American people.
I cited Ron Paul (and to a lesser extent Pat Robertson who has faded away a lot of late) as the best CURRENT example of an Old Believer.
Remember Wilmot Robertson’s classic The Dispossessed Majority was written in the 1970s and Robertson was citing examples of sincere, but hopelessly ineffective, counterproductive White Old Believers in the post war years from 1945 – the early 1970s.
Getting back to Robertson’s description of White American “Old Believers” – he describes them as nice, sincere Old White Americans who look to the American past for political philosophical models that supposedly could correct the problems of the present. Not to be confused with “True Believers” like Libertarian Garry Johnsons – who supports 100% Libertarian orthodoxy for open borders immigration as the only correct policy for America 2012 or any time; Old Believers look to restore various versions of the American past to correct the fallen conditions of our current time.
Wilmot Robertson states:
“Graccchites and Trucklers are pseudo, hypocritical opportunistic, or fearful liberals Pussyfoooters are reluctant or fitful liberals. Old Believers belong to the disappearing breed of honest liberals.”
( Dispossessed Majority – Ch. # 11 the Split in the Ranks, pg. 110)
Old Believers are nostalgic for a White world that has gone away. They promote political philosophies and institutions that worked well, or reasonably well for an all White (British, WASP) America in the past. But, the horrible, obvious truth is that these all White political philosophies/institutions in the past cannot work in the America of 2012 which is terminally infected with multi racial, anti White, BRA diseases.
Some Old Believers now insist that returning America to the original intent of the US Constitution will save everything today. The reality is that the Constitution of 1776 applied only for White American men (property restriction). Black slavery was the norm for Blacks and Blacks were judged 3/5 of a man and we didn’t give the vote to women until the 1920s. Are we going to get destructive Leftist women like Hillary Clinton to give up the vote and go back to the original intent of the Constitution? Or will all the troubles with BRA, Black sink hole cities go away as Black Americans year 2012 voluntarily agree to go back to the way things were in 1776?
Not happening.
Always be on the lookout for Old Believers in the current time and place you are in. Old Believers will usually be very old, nostalgic, sincere, with their supporters being the same. Be nice and somewhat respectful to Old Believers, but understand that they are not our saviors now, they’re a distraction in the live or die racial power struggles that we now face.
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Some Old Believers now insist that returning America to the original intent of the US Constitution will save everything today. The reality is that the Constitution of 1776 applied only for White American men (property restriction). Black slavery was the norm for Blacks and Blacks were judged 3/5 of a man and we didn’t give the vote to women until the 1920s. Are we going to get destructive Leftist women like Hillary Clinton to give up the vote and go back to the original intent of the Constitution? Or will all the troubles with BRA, Black sink hole cities go away as Black Americans year 2012 voluntarily agree to go back to the way things were in 1776?
Not happening.
JR
agreed which is why I cannot support Paul or Goode or their parties. I figure we can’t go back to the old ways until we take care of the demographic issue 1st. and i think economic reality will kill feminism before much longer too, or feminism will kill us.
Are we revealing our ancestries in this thread, then?
Okay.
I’m 1/4 Norwegian; 1/4 Danish; 1/8 Walloon (I think); 1/8 Austrian; and 1/4 German.
All those ethnies got crossbred in America; therefore I am White American ethnic. If your European ancestors crossbred with Europeans from other countries in America, you are my people.
I reloaded Old Believer Ron Paul’s insane/treasonous ’88 CSPAN interview where he tries to reassure an enraged White caller that the invasion of tens of millions of low IQ Mexican immigrants and other 3rd world NW immigrants is really…
GOOD FOR AMERICA (link)
Because all of these NW immigrant invaders just want to help us and any problems associated with mass 3rd world immigration are caused by economic inefficiencies which will somehow all be solved if America embraces Ron Paul’s Libertarian, free market economic reforms.
Here’s the audio file of this horrible RP CSPAN call in show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4EDGMQv670
If any Japanese political candidate, Swiss political candidate or Israeli political candidate expressed such insane, treasonous immigration views in their country – local nationalist patriots would have killed them.
and none of that is Founding Stock
“and none of that is Founding Stock”
Which is why I carefully raised my children to understand that we OWE our loyalty to the Founding Stock.
THE problem with the Jews is, they came to America, the Founding Stock let them in, but the Jews refused to give the loyalty to the Founding Stock as is their due. Instead, Jews give primary loyalty to other Jews, first, and then non-Whites second. This is particularly true of Jews who came in the Great Wave of the late 19th and early 20th Centuries.
Stonelifter wrote: “I figure we can’t go back to the old ways until we take care of the demographic issue 1st.”
Then it seems you have not given up on the old ways. Nor have I. I’m a conservative, NOT a radical. Conservatism always DOES look back, is concerned with conserving.
wow, Barb, tip of the hat to you for that lady! that is highly unusual and all to rare
I live as close to the old ways as I can, Mosin, but I also know there is no returning to them. Not in my life time. Or my kids life time. Perhaps in my grandsons lives, but surely not before then and even so, things must be tweaked to ensure the insanity stay at bay for a long time
“Always be on the lookout for Old Believers in the current time and place you are in. Old Believers will usually be very old, nostalgic, sincere, with their supporters being the same.”
Emphasis on OLD-ness, as though it were a vice, is not convincing. The theory of the general old-ness and nostalgia of the supporters is clearly not true of Ron Paul’s supporters. The selected interview (Paul does NOT always sound QUITE THAT “open border”) could just as well be of one of the Neocons. (But they are mostly a decade or so YOUNGER.)
This attack FAILS to convince that Paul’s policies though flawed in many ways are not the whitest (of all the viable contenders) and would not do more good our side than those of ANY of the not quite so “old and sincere” Neocons you voted for and support.
Not only that, Barb, but on this continent, by centuries of inter-ethnic crossing, and through the passage of time developing a new history and new traditions, a new, “Pan-European” white ethnic group has appeared.
We’re getting off topic again.
The topic here is:
Old Believer White traitors to our people
Another very destructive Old Believer was the very old, anti Soviet, anti Communist Ronald Reagan as President of the United States from 1980-1988.
As President, as a very old White man (late 70s, 80s) Ronald Reagan was looking at the world from a time warp that was at least 30 years out of date.
Sure, in the 1920s, 30s, 40s and even through the 1950s – it make a lot of sense for a White American “Conservative” to be very anti-Communist and to see Russia- the Soviet Union as the main place of Communism, anti (White) American, anti Western Civilization Communist subversion. In the 20s, 30s, 40s Jewish Bolsheviks, Jewish Communists were doing massive murder and mayhem against Whites in Soviet Russia and sponsoring (Jew) Communist intrigue in places like Hollywood where the patriotic, younger White American Ronald Reagan was an actor and Conservative political activist.
NW immigration wasn’t a big issue in the USA in the 1930s- 50s as White American patriots from say 1910-20s had successfully tightened the US immigration laws to protect the Northern European, White racial/cultural population.
But, by the 1980s – the world situation had changed dramatically. White Russians were back in control in Russia/the Soviet Union – so Reagan’s obsession with fighting THE RUSSIANS, doing stupid things like arming Afghan Muslim terrorists/freedom fighters was a huge waste (these are the same nasty NW Muslim Afghan terrorists the US is bogged down fighting now as the Taliban).
And the 1965 immigration act had opened up the NW immigration floodgates.
So, my point is that an old, Old Believer (American anti Communist) President Ronald Reagan wasted the 1980s fighting our kinsmen the (White) Russians, when he should have been focusing on NW threats here at home. A very old (senile) President Reagan signed the first mass NW illegal alien amnesty – and it was pretty much ignored at the time as American Conservatives were obsessed with fighting the Cold War, fighting the Russians – fighting battles left over from a different age.
What was the main problem?
Ronald Reagan was very old and had fallen down in the 1980s to being an Old Believer.
I urge all OD readers to be on the alert for Old White men who are….
Old Believers
LOL
Front man for the hollywood schmoozzies, Tim Osborne of TCM, is showcasing the classic 1917 silent movie, “The Immigrant”, starring Charlie Chaplin.
” a delightful vignette” say the critics.
It’s a great old classic– especially as it’s a silent movie and one doesn’t have suffer listening to a bunch of immigrants speaking broken english with foreign accents, no less.
We simply couldn’t have that, could we?
“Not only that, Barb, but on this continent, by centuries of inter-ethnic crossing, and through the passage of time developing a new history and new traditions, a new, “Pan-European” white ethnic group has appeared”
Aye.
Apples and oranges! Reagan was an actor out of his league, and was beginning dementia. OLD-ness is no vice, but often an advantage, known as persepective, maturity, and wisdom.
Perhaps there is no YOUNG true conservative. Not that I’m old, myself, mind you, just middle-aged.
On topic.
We must be on alert for RADICALS….
“Cold War, fighting the Russians…battles…from a different age.” But isn’t it even today yet the SAME DISTRACTION of endless fratricidal or suicidal conflict? While we’re pre-occupied with a supposed enemy (Iran? Muslims?) or fighting among ourselves….
Have we reached a new historical synthesis? Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
Mosin Nagant says:
“Apples and oranges! Reagan was an actor out of his league, and was beginning dementia. OLD-ness is no vice”
Jack Ryan replies.
Agreed – and the only alternative to becoming an old White man, is to die before old age. Still, we have to be aware of age and look for leaders that are not too young (under say 16) or too old (lots of debate about when is too old).
There are great dangers in having all White leaders in politics, religious organizations, sports representatives, artists all be old. Denathor – the Steward of Gondor in Lord of the Rings, was simply too old, didn’t have the vigor of youth to lead. And there is the dangers with old people who live and think in the past where as our enemies are very focused on winning things for their NW people here in the present.
@Jack Ryan
You’re being too harsh on Reagan. He wasn’t obsessed with fighting “the Russians”. He was determined to fight and destroy Communism, which is the worst evil to ever threaten Western Civilization.
“Ronald Reagan wasted the 1980’s fighting our kinsman the (White) Russians”
White or not, Russians are not my kinsman, and I promise you that they do not share your warm & fuzzy feelings of white solidarity. You’re looking for friends where there aren’t any.
The Soviet Union trained, armed, and funded every anti-colonial movement in Africa, participated in open combat against America in the Vietnam War, supported Marxist thugs in Central America, and cells agitating here during the social upheavals of the 1960’s. Don’t forget that the they invaded Afghanistan to begin with. Reagan only capitalized on their lack of foresight.
“White Russians were back in control in Russia/the Soviet Union..”
I don’t know where your getting this, but I’d like to see a link with names and pictures. And whether they were white or not, they were still sabre-rattling against the free world, and militarily exporting their evil ideology to all of it’s would-be enemies.
The Soviet Union was distilliation of the darkest form of tyranny, and Reagan was right to prioritize fighting it.
313Chris says:
June 27, 2012 at 10:08 pm (Edit)
@Jack Ryan
You’re being too harsh on Reagan. He wasn’t obsessed with fighting “the Russians”. He was determined to fight and destroy Communism, which is the worst evil to ever threaten Western Civilization.
“Ronald Reagan wasted the 1980?s fighting our kinsman the (White) Russians”
White or not, Russians are not my kinsman, and I promise you that they do not share your warm & fuzzy feelings of white solidarity. You’re looking for friends where there aren’t any.
Jack Ryan responds:
What ridiculous nonsense – and spoken, I might add, like a confused 80s Reagan Conservative, trying to fight the battles of the 1930s in the 1980s. American Conservatives are usually about 50 years behind the times.
By the 1970s, or even the mid 1960s White nationalistic Russians were firmly back in control in Russia – the key is to look at things like sports and culture. Russian hockey teams, Russian/Soviet basketball teams, Olympic teams were all White, Russian/Soviet TV featured All White Classical music, not Norman Lear TV Sitcoms or Brian Gumbel NBC Today show. In contrast, the United States Olympic teams had Black Olympic track competitors giving Black power fist salutes as far back as in ’68.
Those of us who’ve lived in brutal, racially contested, NW criminal anarchy in US cities like Chicago and New York city in the 80s, 90s in the know shake our heads in complete frustration at senile old Reagan Conservatives who were obsessed with fighting “THE RUSSIANS”.
Hey 313Chris – if some beautiful White Russian woman like Anna Kournikova or Maria Sharapova showed up at your door requesting help, would you turn her away and go embrace some HIV+ Black American gang banger under the idea that the Black gang banger is “an American” and the beautiful White Russian gals is ” A FUHR-REN-OR” one of those evil RUSSKIES.?
It’s confused thinking like this that caused White Americans to support bombing our White kinsmen the Serbs to create an Albanian Turko -Mongolian Muslim state in Kosovo!
Where would naive wishful thinking white women (and men) who are convinced an ” outreach” to retrograde cultures will save the world fit into the list? Examples: NGO volunteers, reporters who believe in “Arab Spring”, etc..
” Please God, make it stop!’ British female journalist, 22, describes horrific sexual assault in Egypt’s Tahrir Sq after election result ”
Natasha Smith, 22, has detailed how she was violently attacked by a ‘group of animals’ in Tahrir Square who stripped her naked, scratched and clenched her breasts and ‘forced their fingers inside her’. She only escaped by donning men’s clothes and a burka ..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/index.html
New Believers – in Kumbaya
Kumbaya – Pete Seeger
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The Russians are very White. The Russians won a brutal war against throat cutting, NW Muslim Chetnians. The White Russian leader Putin put the worst Jew Oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky in a public cage, nationalized his Jew media.
And Chris.
Anna Kournikova was one of the most beautiful White women in the world – she wasn’t/isn’t some ugly looking Jewess like Elena Kagan.
If you can’t recognize these obvious racial realities you’re pretty much a lost cause.
Jack,
I agree that Reagan skeerewed us over when he signed that 1986 amnesty.
I’m ashamed to admit that the senator from my state, WY, Alan Simpson, sponsored that piece of treason.
At the time I believed what the Repugs said, look, if we give the Dems this amnesty they want, then we can INSIST on a secured border from here on out. See? There’s only one million Mexicans, no big deal, and we’ll see to it NO MORE get through.
Lies, all of it, it turned out. We got 3 million Mexicans and no secure border plus a baby boom from the Mexicanas, so now we’ve got 50 MILLION Mexicans who ought not be here!
Seeing this play out in the ’90s, watching California Dreamin’ turn to Mexifornia before my eyes, is when I came to understand the Repugs are just controlled opposition.
But, otoh, Reagan told Gorbachev, tear down this wall. THAT act may turn out to be the salvation of the White race, yet. Here’s why: Germany (now reunited) is AGAIN the powerhouse of Europe.
Jim Willie says the Germans won’t leave the Euro, they’ll take it with ’em. They’ll kick out the PIGS countries and form a sort of Nordic Euro currency backed by a whiff of gold. Such a powerful currency held by a strong economy of (nearly Jew-free) White people will quickly become the go-to world’s reserve currency, and quite possibly for exchange of oil. Which spells the demise of the petrodollar. Which spells the demise of the American (jewed-up) Empire.
Jack,
I agree that Reagan skeerewed us over when he signed that 1986 amnesty.
I’m ashamed to admit that the senator from my state, WY, Alan Simpson, sponsored that piece of treason.
At the time I believed what the Repugs said, look, if we give the Dems this amnesty they want, then we can INSIST on a secured border from here on out. See? There’s only one million Mexicans, no big deal, and we’ll see to it NO MORE get through.
Lies, all of it, it turned out. We got 3 million Mexicans and no secure border plus a baby boom from the Mexicanas, so now we’ve got 50 MILLION Mexicans who ought not be here!
Seeing this play out in the ’90s, watching California Dreamin’ turn to Mexifornia before my eyes, is when I came to understand the Repugs are just controlled opposition.
But, otoh, Reagan told Gorbachev, tear down this wall. THAT act may turn out to be the salvation of the White race, yet. Here’s why: Germany (now reunited) is AGAIN the powerhouse of Europe.
Jim Willie says the Germans won’t leave the Euro, they’ll take it with ‘em. They’ll kick out the PIGS countries and form a sort of Nordic Euro currency backed by a whiff of gold. Such a powerful currency held by a strong economy of (nearly Jew-free) White people will quickly become the go-to world’s reserve currency, and quite possibly for exchange of oil. Which spells the demise of the petrodollar. Which spells the demise of the American (jewed-up) Empire.
Outlier says:
June 27, 2012 at 10:50 pm (Edit)
Where would naive wishful thinking white women (and men) who are convinced an ” outreach” to retrograde cultures will save the world fit into the list? Examples: NGO volunteers, reporters who believe in “Arab Spring”, etc..
New Believers – in Kumbaya”
Jack Ryan replies:
Naive (attractive) White women who go in for trendy NW causes like the Arab Spring or Amy Biehl embracing Black ANC “youths” who murdered her:
True believers
Pussyfooters or Trucklers a bit, if they are from very wealthy families and go in for NW 3rd world outreach causes, then Gracchites is the category of their racial treason.
These women usually go with the flow because it’s good for their career, everyone else in their Lib social group are doing it. They can’t have jobs in the MSM – mainstream media if the say or think anything White “racist”, so they go for NW causes, assignments.
@ Jack
I know several, and most are good looking young women; although one is a bleach blonde mudshark – and she tried to adopt a baby and bring it back. They NGO’ed at orphanages or AID clinics in Africa. They are not rich and did fund raisers to get the money together to travel. They are trendy young liberals or Chez fans and think “activism” is cool, but they are not social climbers nor interested in a political career They’ve been brainwashed by the cultural marxism. These people vote for left-leaning parties and are anti-racists, at least for the time being, but I’m sure most will grow out of it after they realize the stupidity of their ways. Some of the kids Brevik shot may fit into this category – some may have grown out of it.
The book is a bit dated, so I think we need a 6th category is needed to capture this new social phenomena, may be: Gullible Trendy Middle Class Activists , or similar.
Please try to adhere to the OD comment guidelines – in this case, people are riding hobby horses
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2010/10/02/comment-guidelines-2/
“5.) No Hobby Horse Riding – I’ve seen countless threads deteriorate into hobby horse riding. The most obvious examples are religious and subracial infighting. Most of the time the OP is irrelevant to these issues.”
Outlier says:
June 27, 2012 at 11:38 pm (Edit)
@ Jack
“I know several, and most are good looking young women; although one is a bleach blonde mudshark – and she tried to adopt a baby and bring it back. They NGO’ed at orphanages or AID clinics in Africa. They are not rich and did fund raisers to get the money together to travel. They are trendy young liberals or Chez fans and think “activism” is cool, but they are not social climbers nor interested in a political career”
Jack Ryan replies:
Wilmot Robertson has a category for all of these traitor types and really nothing much has changed since the 1970s (Communism ended in Central and Eastern White Europe – that was a good thing).
I would put the women you mentioned in to
4) True believers
Even if it is only the true belief of brainwashed youth – THEY BELIEVE!
It’s also good for their career or else the opposite – publicly expressing pro White, racial realism views is a career killer, so these types are to varying degrees pussyfooters, trucklers.
So Jack deleted my comment.
Gee, I’m shocked.
beato chi puo
All’armi! All’armi! All’armi o fascisti !
“There are great dangers in having all White leaders in politics, religious organizations, sports representatives, artists all be old. Denathor – the Steward of Gondor in Lord of the Rings, was simply too old, didn’t have the vigor of youth to lead.”
Beginning with the second assertion: Denathor’s handicap was being possessed, or bewitched (bear in mind I’m a skeptic of such things) not being too old. Many of Tolkien’s chief heroes were old.
On the first statement: There are greater dangers in having all leaders NOT be old. We can guess your age.
We do not need to agree with the theory of Wilmot Robertson.
well said Tamer, and the blood of White men
Mosin Nagant says:
We do not need to agree with the theory of Wilmot Robertson.
Jack Ryan replies:
First read and try to understand the theories of Wilmot Robertson.
Turn off the TV boob tube/Jew tube – – read Robertson’s The Dispossessed Majority – check out Robertson’s great magazine Instauration:
http://instaurationonline.com/
Once you have made the effort of reading and thinking about the theories of one of America’s greatest White theorists, then you can start to make some intelligent comments on OD.
We could use a few more intelligent comments on OD.
It is important here to keep in mind the difference between the Soviet Union and Russia. The Russian people did not invent communism, but were serfs up until the 1860’s. In the course of history the Czar was removed from power and placed under a sort of house arrest with his family while a minister was appointed to install a parlimentary type government. In this moment of upheaval and change, Lenin was SENT to Russia (he was holed up in Germany) by the Western powers, as was Trotsky (who was holed up in good ole NYC) to thrawrt the Russians chance at self-determination and install the worlds first multi-cultural paradise–the Soviet Union. The Czar, his wife, son and lovely daughters were all killed in cold blood by filthy Communists. Know why? Because the Romanovs were blood and soil royalty the people could rally around in some future revolt against the worker’s world paradise. In other words, they were a visible link between the ethnic Russian people, their past and their land. Please don’t underestimate the trouble our ethnic Russian cousins have endured over….I don’t know…say the last 1,000 years. Moreover, don’t blame Russia for Stalin, as he was a Georgian who hated Russians.
Mosin makes all the types of intelligent comments here jack. stop being an a** just because folks disagree with you and your hobby horse
(Comment edited by moderator – please get off the Net and go ask some beautiful, or slightly over-weight White gals to dance – please less swearing, flaming, violating OD comments guidelines)
Wayne is dead on concerning Russian history. The Soviets were not for the most part Russians. They were a cabal of fanatical jews, funded by other fanatical wealthy jews.
They were also working feverishly to set up a revolution in Germany in the same time period. Bolshevics and the NKVD were
(continued)
essentially outsiders of the Russian majority.
The parallels of the soviets to modern America are strikingly similar, different game plan, but same end game strategy.
A full on police state where the native population are displaced and left powerless.
(Moderator’s comments: yours were intelligent, legitimate comments about Russian history, but the topic of this post isn’t Russian history. OD will have many good articles about history, including Russian history – please try to make your comments address the topic of the posts. In this case the topic of the post is Wilmot Robertson’s categorization of the distinct types of American White traitors to our people – here we are discussing #4 the Old Believers)
Jack – you know I love you. I look very much forward to meeting you at the Coinference, and maybe trying that LeRock style (FYI – I got an earful of really fun updates, on Conference doings, tonight. It’s gonna be G-G-G-GREAT!)
But my feelings are hurt. Your Moderator Admonishments are actually funnier and more amusing than a lot of the posts! I feel so…left out…
Anyway – lots of people make intelligent commnets here, on or off topic. From what I understand – you’ve wounded poor Mosin to the marrow! He LOATHES TalmudVision! Mosin is quite brilliant. He’s just not up to speed on all Theorists.
On a good note – Putin was just photographed with sweet little Palestinian kiddies, and he’s told the rabid Israelis that f they attack Iran, well – “…it would be big mistake”. Putin is so masculine and butch and all. Yay!
Throw the Jooz down the well! All of them! Down the well.
Cement up the well.
why does a mans language offend your yankee delicacies?
Don’t look at me, man. Hell, I use the foulest language of anyone here!
LOL you sure do Chris, and your pretty damn good at it
I don’t mind being called out on my cursing, I do way to much of it, but it’s interesting that it’s only an issue when when I check jack and cross his school teacher ideals
Jack is a mental midget.
I run my own business and never employ anyone smart enough to undermine my authority.
I expect them to try, especially middle management.
When Im not around they play boss.
I see why Jack is a mod here, he is clearly not capable of running or ruining this site.
Just an incompetent, slightly annoying, but loyal enough.
The funny thing about Jack is his posts consistently average at least 150 comments. So at least he’s making us think.
@ The Moderator writes (see above): “Turn off the TV boob tube/Jew tube – read Robertson’s…. Once you have made the effort of reading and thinking about the theories of one of America’s greatest White theorists, then you can start to make some intelligent comments on OD. We could use a few more intelligent comments on OD.”
The first flame was mis-aimed badly, since I don’t even turn on TV, and mostly ignore it if I’m in that room and it’s been turned on by someone else. I grew up mostly without it (happily, gratefully so) and wouldn’t have one here at all if it were entirely up to me, Jack. I don’t support, or even learn the current news by Talmud-vision. Books are still the best (one especially, that is religious, and I won’t name here so you can guess), internet second overall and the best for current news.
Furthermore, another mis-fire: I really HAVE BEEN aware, for some time, of the late Robertson (John Ireland) and his very important, seminal (for contemporary WN) works “The Dispossessed Majority” and “Ethnostate,” and magazine “Instauration” — all of which one NEVER hears about on TV or stumbles across in other J-media, or studies in academia, but one can HARDLY miss in the WN setting.
Duke called The Dispossessed “the greatest book since the Second World War,” and the term “ethnostate” seems to have originated with Robertson.
But while Robertson-Ireland was brilliantly right about MANY things I don’t bow to his direction entirely, and as I wrote (above) we DON’T need to accept his paradigm of the “Old Believers,” etc. because we’re told, either.
You see, Jack, I AM one of those OLD Believers. Not that I mean I’m past middle age, but rather that I’m NOT a RADICAL, NEW believer.
The tendency of Robertson toward secular humanism is very clear. He promoted Galton and Cattell who predicted a new Man or species to evolve, or develop itself by the science of eugenics, out of the superior existing (white) race. Robertson was getting quite old when he began writing his racialist works, and so, could his mind have “been stuck in” the very radical nineteen-twenties and -thirties of his youth?
He was associated in his last years with Raymond Cattell the brilliant, distinguished scientist, who was however out of his league (or mind) on religion, promoting “Beyondism” — a “new morality or religion from Science” — which UNLIKE CHRISTIANITY is “NOT STATIC” and does not “increase the unfit” or “deny the urge” to evolve a new species. You can only imagine what my contention is, since the hobby horse of religion should not be discussed on this website.
Denise wrote: “Your Moderator Admonishments are actually funnier and more amusing than a lot of the posts! I feel so…left out…. Anyway – lots of people make intelligent comments here, on or off topic… — you’ve wounded poor Mosin…. He LOATHES TalmudVision!”
Thanks, but NOT wounded at all. Did not feel any sticks or stones, and while an extended argument for the sake of argument would be wrong and even shameful, I LIKE lively intelligent discussion.