Georgia
Gov. Nathan Deal of Georgia recently signed an executive order authorizing the removal of the Tom Watson statue from the grounds of the Georgia State Capitol in Atlanta.
Rather than be seen as a weakling who is capitulating to the demands of a PC lynch mob, Gov. Deal claims that it is only a “safety issue” and that the statue is being removed due to a “big renovations” project on the steps of the State Capitol, but a spokesman for the Georgia Building Authority says that it would be a “prohibitive cost” to restore the statue to its present location and that it is being permanently removed to a nearby park.
In reality, the removal of the Tom Watson statue from the Georgia State Capitol is part of a well organized leftwing agitation campaign to remove the monument which includes a petition on Change.org that has gathered nearly 1,000 signatures. The ADL has issued a press release praising Gov. Nathan Deal for acting to remove the Tom Watson statue which has “offended” them for so many years:
“For many years we at the ADL and many Georgians of good will have been offended by the statute of Tom Watson standing in a place of honor at the front entrance of the capitol,” said Shelley Rose, Associate Director of the ADL Southeast Region. “We are grateful to Governor Deal for acting to move the statue. In doing so he sends a clear message that he will not tolerate the hatred and bigotry that defined so much of Watson’s career.”
Gov. Nathan Deal has succeeded in sending a “clear message” to State Rep. Tyrone Brooks, the president of the Georgia Association of Elected Black Officials, who is “elated” by the removal of the Tom Watson statue, and who would like to see the statues of Sen. Richard Russell, Gov. Eugene Talmadge, and Confederate General John B. Gordon also removed from the State Capitol, as well as all the other statues which he considers offensive.
Rep. Brooks has linked the removal of the Tom Watson statue to the NAACP’s victory in the removal of the 1956 Georgia State Flag. He believes that it is “a sign of progress” and that Gov. Deal has decided that it is time to “begin to remove the old racist artifacts” from the grounds of the Georgia State Capitol.
He also hopes that these “old racist artifacts” will be replaced by African-American, Native American, and Asian American monuments which represent “the Georgia of today” rather than “yesterday.”
Note: I’m seriously considering going to Atlanta to protest this.
Stephen E Dalton says:
‘The inquisition courts compared to the secular courts of those times, were extremely mild and fair.’
Absurd! I wonder how mild and and fair you would have thought it was if it were you tossed in a dungeon, tortured, killed.
Stephen: ‘BTW, I don’t appreciate you dragging the Griffin’s into this. It wasn’t necessary to illustrate your point, whatever it was.’
Of course, you wouldn’t appreciate it. My illustration was perfectly appropriate, timely and truthful. And you very well know the point.
‘Dragging them into this’ implies I was besmirching them in some way, when in fact the criticism was levied solely against the hideous practices of the RCC. More spin doctoring and deflection.
Here is another example of just one poor fellow that I discovered recently while searching for (Comet Ison) articles on the internet.
Never disagree with the Holy Ones on any subject.
Wiki:
Giordano Bruno, born Filippo Bruno, was an Italian Dominican friar, philosopher, mathematician, astrologer and astronomer.
His cosmological theories went beyond the Copernican model: while supporting its heliocentrism, he also correctly proposed that the Sun was just another star moving in space, and claimed as well that the universe contained an infinite number of inhabited worlds populated by other intelligent beings.[2]
The Roman Inquisition found him guilty of heresy and he was burned at the stake.[3] After his death he gained considerable fame, particularly among 19th- and early 20th-century commentators who, focusing on his astronomical beliefs, regarded him as a martyr for free thought and modern scientific ideas.
Your reply illustrates my point. You won’t take the time to study real history because you’re so cock sure you’re right. I gave you the name of a book to read, please take the time to go to your local library and get a copy. You might discover that you don’t have all the facts after all.
You were still wrong to bring the Griffin’s into this. Their marriage had nothing to do with this discussion. And like I already said, The Catholic Church assumes every Non-Catholic marriage in world is legitimate. It only regulate marriages under it’s jurisdiction. And don’t presume to lecture me on this subject, because I had to go through an annulment from my tragic first marriage, and I read all the stuff the church had to say about marriage, divorce, and annulments.
And as for Bruno, his scientific views had nothing to do with his death. It was his denial of basic Christian doctrine, and his pushing of magic that got his sweet bum torched. Even that WIKI article you mentioned said that. So does Dame Francis Yates in her books on the occult. Most Christian folks in the world at that time had a very dim view of folks who practiced magic, so Gordy would have been in hot water in Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant countries for his beliefs and practices. He just happened to get caught in Italy. So your attempt to portray Bruno as a martyr to science fails here.
Because I’m against flame wars, (and so is OD) I’m ending this tete a tete. I do hope you will read Kamen book. It’s one of the best books on this subject ever written.
Stephen E Dalton says:
‘And as for Bruno, his scientific views had nothing to do with his death.’
Nothing? You are daft.
Stephen E Dalton says: It was his denial of basic Christian doctrine, and his pushing of magic that got his sweet bum torched.
You mean Popish doctrine, don’t you?
Pushing of magic. LOL. Anything scientific or not, and not approved by the Pope was magic, heresy, devil worship, sedition, blasphemy etc.
Everyone persecuted, tortured and killed by the the clergy throughout history was always deserving.
I hope YOU watch this video.
By the 2o minute mark you will learn more about TRUE Papal history, Europe, the Inquisitions and the reasons for the Reformation than most of the public and 99% of Catholics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NxYRxTCjuk
After watching it, be sure to get back with me and tell me again how infallible, principled and holy the Popes are in morals, doctrine and whatever else suits your fancy.
‘Inquisition Revisionism’ (advanced by Kamen and others) says that Inquisition ITSELF was NOT responsible for the ACTUAL KILLINGS of the thousands who WERE killed — out of hundreds of thousands who were officially investigated and mostly not killed — and that the Inquisitions were established only to guarantee fair and merciful trials and to reduce the slaughter of alleged heretics by non-church officials.
Sam, your response about how the Jesuits REALLY consider voluntary association with Lutherans and other Protestant ‘rebels’ against Rome was very appropriate. Protestants were deliberately ERADICATED from Latin Mediterranean countries; hundreds of thousands of Irish Protestants were killed in the struggle to maintain Papal control of Ireland; millions of Germans had to die, to regain partial control of Germany, and southern Germany especially was depopulated and wasted.
More on the thread topic:
Tom Watson is unique in that he ‘was directly responsible for fomenting the only European-type pogrom against a Jewish community in the history of the United States. Governor Slaton was forced to leave Georgia, his political career ended (and) Tom Watson was elected to the U.S. Senate’! http://www.publiceye.org/ifas/fw/9606/violence.html
However he considered Romanism to be ‘the greatest threat to mankind’, and he certainly helped to inspire the Southern campaign to defend against it. In Alabama, for example, ‘A Catholic church and school in Pratt City, near Birmingham, were burned to the ground by night raiders. Father James E. Coyle, pastor of St. Paul’s Church in Birmingham, received several death threats. Federal authorities alerted him to the plots, and he was forced to hire armed guards to protect the church sanctuary and rectory. Anti-Catholic political parties swept the Birmingham municipal elections in 1916 and brought about the firing of all Catholic employees (…) and a boycott of all merchants who hired Catholic employees. Jewish merchants resisted (…) The effort to dislodge Catholics from their jobs was carried out systematically and with considerable success…Each employer was visited by a vigilance committee, which demanded dismissal of Catholic workers under penalty of a boycott. In 1921 a local itinerant Methodist preacher, E. R. Stephenson (…) could no longer restrain himself when his daughter married a Catholic of Puerto Rican ancestry in a ceremony performed by Father James Coyle….’ (quoted from the same source linked above)
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/40581465?uid=3739864&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21102817289537
Tom also vigorously opposed the First World War.
Re: ‘greatest threat to mankind’: Watson actually called it ‘the greatest threat to our liberties’ and ‘the chief peril of our prosperity’. In any case, he always considered It our greatest single enemy. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:U6WMXyYDyLQJ:http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/estimates.doc
“Tom also vigorously opposed the First World War.”
He deserves his statue for that alone.
Note that ‘Puritan pornography’, unjustly implied to Tom Watson (who was neither a Yankee nor a pornographer) is a term that was invented by the Jewish historian Richard Hofstadter. Watson’s writings were banned or restricted by the Federal government for expressing his opposition to that unjust First world war, that Talmudic genocide of white nations pitted against each other!
(Also note that Henry Kamen, who has largely created the new trend in altering the history of the Spanish Inquisition, and has proven beyond doubt that the prisons of the Inquisition were nicer and better managed than ordinary Spanish prisons, is also a Talmudist, a rootless cosmopolitan born in Burma, living in London, and in Wisconsin, and in Madrid, Spain, who is constantly rewarded by the Spanish for refurbishing their tarnished medieval image.)
Watson’s ‘DIXIE pornography’: ‘”Already,” he warned, “the Executive branch of Government has swallowed the Legislative, and the President has demanded and secured more personal power than any Kaiser ever possessed.” Watson had scheduled an interstate convention in Macon, Georgia to discuss “the recent unconstitutional and revolutionary acts of Congress.” But interference by the Federal authorities and threats of military violence forced him to call it off. At the end of August, the Jeffersonian was banned under the Espionage Act and Watson’s prediction of “prodigious sacrifices of treasure and blood” was soon to come true (…) During the U.S. war effort, reference was made to the “seditious utterances” and “un-American writings” Watson had brought forth in his “disloyal, incendiary publications”‘: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v03/v03p301_Irwin.html
But after all that Federal ‘interference’ and defamation, the people of Georgia were still wise and independent enough to elect him to the Senate just one year after the war. It could not happen today.
The leading Roman Catholic politician today in Georgia is none other than Newt Gingrich. Will Newt speak out in Tom Watson’s defense? After all isn’t Newt a conservative, and somewhat of a populist? LOL.
I know that if Newt came out STRONGLY in defense of Watson, and AGAINST moving his statue, I would have to reassess my opinion of Newt. Adelson and all.
I won’t hold my breath.
I like this point about ww1, as a Talmudist plot. However, the US should have taken on a leadership position in 1918 and not retreated back to isolation at that point. It might have been a good thing to have American and European cooperation in 1818 to counter communism and to assure beleaguered Germans that we would have their back if the the Reds and whatnot made too much fuss.
Watson may or may not have been a factor. But this is mostly about the ADL and using a trial as a cultural wedge issue.
Btw, Georgia’s leading Roman Catholic politician Newt Gingrich is allegedly a PhD, and a Southern historian.
“Btw, Georgia’s leading Roman Catholic politician Newt Gingrich is allegedly a PhD, and a Southern historian.”
From Wiki:
Newton Leroy McPherson was born at the Harrisburg Hospital in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, is of German, English, Scottish, and Irish descent, was raised Lutheran and spent most of his adult life as a Southern Baptist before converting to Catholicism in 2009.
He was a geography instructor who failed to get tenure, a supporter of Nelson Rockefeller’s presidential runs, and a Vietnam War draft dodger.
And what’s he on, his third wife? The guy is a joke.
And you can thank him and his buddy Bill Clinton for NAFTA.
It only gets worse, politically correct conservative Republican Governor Deal credits Newt Gingrich with getting him into Georgia politics! Deal & Gingrich are personal & political pals.
It could be that Georgia Governor Deal, like Georgia Governor Slaton of old, wants some of that big Jew money like Slaton got, and, and that the Holy Catholic Newt has been getting. LOL.
As far as I’m concerned, Newt Gingrich is a Catholic. However, IMO, he should have taken a break from politics for a few years to allow his Catholic faith to mature. To expose himself to the heady wine of power politics that fed his bloated ego so soon after conversion was not good for him or the country.
It will be interesting to see if Mary Phagan’s family protest the moving of Tom Watson’s statue. https://www.leofrank.org/mary-phagan-kean/
Music break: John Carson played this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEJr0MXH2e4 over and over for hours on the courthouse steps when the Knights of Phagan hung Frank.
Earl Butz says:
October 26, 2013 at 7:07 pm
It only gets worse, politically correct conservative Republican Governor Deal credits Newt Gingrich with getting him into Georgia politics! Deal & Gingrich are personal & political pals.”
Jack replies:
Newt Gingrich once won Instauration Magazine’s White majority renegade of the year award back in the 1980s. Another winner/loser was Indiana RINO Dick Lugar.
Gingrich probably joined that most popular Baptist group for political advantage, but since the liberalising Baptist seminaries began to appreciate and look to Rome for their example, it was time to take the final step short of Talmudic proselytism: His Papist conversion was just another step down in his unregenerate condition. As the Scripture says, the wicked wax worse and worse.
On the post topic: My prediction is that there will be no protest about the statue, even if it is removed. Previous LOS demonstrations were staged on relatively politically safe ground — being generously interpretable as reactions against Muslims, capitalist greed and a ‘broken immigration system in need of reform’, with a rather innocuous nostalgic plea (‘It’s wrong to replace us’) thrown in on behalf of the preservation of long-existing communities. However, a protest against destruction of a statue of Thomas E. Watson would seem to strike at the heart of Talmudism and Jesuitry.
Protesting against Lindsey Graham is also relatively safe ground, interpretable as conservatives fighting with Republicans — and one less Republican in the Senate is one step closer to explicitly one party rule.
Not to say that a Lindsey protest isn’t wise. But always aiming for the edges of the target is too easily misinterpreted.
Recent news of religious pornography, relevant to the implication (above) of ‘Puritan’ pornography to some of Watson’s writings: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/germany-catholic-pornography-church-scandal/ :
I see that someone is trying to sundown our efforts to protect our history and heritage. He’s saying that they were held on “safe ground”. How would he know that!? The folks at Tinley Park thought they were on “safe ground” until the Antifa’s viciously assaulted them at the restaurant. One of the persons that was beaten by these damn thugs was a friend of mine, an army vet who had to go to the VA for the injuries he received. The fact is, every time we hold on of these dems, there’s a risk the other side might pull something like Tinley Park. I think it’s safe to say, the more persistent we are at holding these demonstrations, the more likely the chances of things getting rougher will become. Right now, they’re hoping shaming and denying us lodging will stop us. When they realize words won’t hurt us, they will ratch it up. That will be a real test of the discipline Dr. Hill and our other leaders demand of us. If we can keep our heads together in a situation like that, we will impress the general public that we’re not a bunch of crazies on steroids. I won’t be able to make the Watson protest, but I’ll send some money to help with expenses. Will somebody else do it too?
Elucidation of ‘politically safe ground’: The expression does not denote physical safety, but means it is less ‘unacceptable’ (with the authorities) to aim only at the EDGES of the target (such as by calling attention to the dangers of Muslim Jihad and capitalist greed, and pleading for preservation of long-existing communities from the forces of demographic change) than to address what are the evil and the good directly. But the indirect approach is probably also less physically dangerous, although not necessarily safe. Even Tea Partiers are threatened.
Mosin your comments like a diamonds sometimes, brilliant and cutting at the same time. I believe I have said this before.
Stephen E Dalton,
I see that someone is trying to sundown our efforts to protect our history and heritage.
I see someone suggesting that if your goal is to protect your history and heritage, perhaps you should address root causes rather than legitimate but peripheral issues.
Anyone from Georgia know, if Tom Watson’s relatives still own a big interest in the Atlanta Braves, and a large Georgia-southern media group? https://www.leofrank.org/tom-watson/
To certain people: we don’t attack the direct cause. What makes you think we don’t pray and petition God Almighty about these things? Faith and prayer are useless without action. IOW, Faith without works is dead. When I hear that pious pussies like you certain people have actually put some time, effort, and money into this cause, I might actually believe you’re doing more than sitting on your holy heinies and carping at those of us who are actually doing something constructive to save what’s left of our culture.
Tom Watson sounds like a brilliant, valiant True White Man! Bless his soul!
Dalton – I personally know some of the CRAVEN pussies that were attacked in Tinley Park. They didn’t fight. They cowered like whipped curs. The other patrons of the restaurant fought off the attack. The patrons, the owners, and the FREAKING COPS had to BEG the Tinley Park Turds to prosecute and testify. So don’t try to pull rank be citing those ‘Tards.
Mosin – you are coming along beautifully in your Jewser status. You are doing something very right if a Hebe is trying to take you down. Bravo!
Not everyone (except NSA) knows the nature and extent of everyone else’s activism, and no one who does not know can rightly judge anyone.
Money might be ‘the mother’s milk of politics’, and it does ‘talk’ — but the sword of wealth has another edge: Acceptance of monetary gifts and support has corrupted far too many authentic ‘grassroots’ movements that began in poverty with pure motives. Truth is never for sale, and conviction cannot be purchased.
Stephen E Dalton,
Regular and longtime readers here know one of your themes since joining as contributor at this blog has been, essentially, “it ain’t the Jews; the Jews ain’t so bad.”
But if you’re now using anti-Protestant terms coined by that lying 1/2 Jew Richard Hofsteader, if Mosin is right that that phrasing comes from Hofsteader, it says more about you than I think you realize. You might as well quote Theodore Adorno while you’re at it. Hofsteader often used the classic Bolshevik technique of ascribing mental illness to anti-liberal goyim. Maybe you’re aware of this? America’s anti-liberal goys, according to Hofsteader, represent the “paranoid” style in American politics. Southerners are the prototype paranoids according to him.
But look, theological differences aside, do you, or would you, support championing this man Tom Watson’s willingness to battle organized Jewry and fight for justice for Mary Phagan? His statue is being removed. It looks like a clear case of anti-Southern culture destruction.
For the record, Watson said,
Frank belongs to the Jewish aristocracy, and it was determined by the rich Jews that no aristocrat of their race should die for the death of a working-class Gentile
“For many years we at the ADL and many Georgians of good will have been offended by the statute of Tom Watson standing in a place of honor at the front entrance of the capitol. We are grateful to Governor Deal for acting to move the statue. In doing so he sends a clear message that he will not tolerate the hatred and bigotry that defined so much of Watson’s career.” – Shelley Rose, Associate Director of the ADL Southeast Region.
Governor Nathan Deal is a Republican.
Lew –
A Jew is a Jew is a Jew….
A Jew by any other name is a Jew.
Lew,
DNA always outs itself. Always.
ALWAYS.
Bless you, my dear White Man.
Lew says:
October 28, 2013 at 2:15 am
“For many years we at the ADL and many Georgians of good will have been offended by the statute of Tom Watson standing in a place of honor at the front entrance of the capitol. We are grateful to Governor Deal for acting to move the statue. In doing so he sends a clear message that he will not tolerate the hatred and bigotry that defined so much of Watson’s career.” – Shelley Rose, Associate Director of the ADL Southeast Region.”
Jack replies:
If you don’t shut up we’ll make you…
Six Million and one.
Lew, I’m not going to blame the Jews for everything that goes wrong, if there’s no proof that they’re involved. To be Jew-Wise is one thing, to be a knee-jerk Anti-Semite with a paranoid worldview where a vast and great Jewish conspiracy is behind every evil thing is stupid and insane. The real problem in our society are the white people in power who hate our European Christian traditions, and the gullible average white who allows himself to be conned by the powers that be. The Jews, the Blacks, and the other white/non-white non-Christian minorities would not have the power that they do in our society if it wasn’t for them. The Tom Watson statue removal is a good example of this. It wasn’t a Jew or a Black that signed the order for that statue to be removed, it was one of our own race. Oh, they cheered Gov. RawDeal on, but he signed the order.
@Mosin
“Truth is never for sale, and conviction cannot be purchased.”
Naive pap. Money is the mother’s milk of politics and in this expensive media age money is a tool that can be put to good use (like electing candidates.)
The paranoid accusation was popularized by Hofsteader. You like responding to criticism with pat Jewish talking points and straw men such as “conspiracies,” “paranoia,” “blame them for everything,” etc. I don’t see anyone blaming Jews for everything or suggesting there is a conspiracy. Do you support protesting the Watson statue or not? I do.
Lew, haven’t you read every comment on this post? If you did, you would have seen my comments on the statue. I’m against moving it period! And as for the main body of your comment, I suggest you read some of the comments made by our fellow posters. Some most certainly want to blame the Joooos (and some the Catholics) for everything wrong in our society. If they play into Hofsteader’s paranoia accusation, it’s their own damn fault.
Hofsteader did point out that Blacks had about the same or better survival rate as Whites for the trans-Atlantic crossing in colonial days. I’ve never read of anyone disputing that fact.
By the same token, as DixieGirl would say, Hofsteader was not a generational American, and had no genetic memory of Colonial and Early America, and I can’t imagine a people more paranoid than the Jews.
There’s a big name Washington lawyer, I have his book around here somewhere, who has written on the French & Indian War. He and I share a similar experience of having felt deja vu in certain French & Indian War historical settings, even down to knowing directions to places we have never been before.
Re: ‘“Truth is never for sale, and conviction cannot be purchased.” Naive pap. Money is the mother’s milk of politics and in this expensive media age money is a tool that can be put to good use (like electing candidates)’:
Please read my comment, where I said it is both useful and potentially corrupting, and my ‘pap’ IS true: that wealthy gifting and support cannot ‘buy’, create, alter or destroy either truth or conviction. Small, poor ‘grassroots’ political movements are regularly corrupted by the ‘mother’s milk’. Local Tea Party groups for example tend to be controlled by one or two wealthy supporters.
Re: Everyone: Hofstadter should not be misspelled Hofsteader, unless you ‘all’ are
not wanting your comments to appear early in a Google search for Hofstadter.
Once a group is controlled, it is generally lost. With money behind it, ‘paranoia accusation’ can control a group (but not change truth or true conviction), so beware of over-organisation. Keep activity simple and direct.
Most of all, LIVE the freedom.
Returning to Father Coughlin and economic populism, it turns out, interestingly enough, he has a bio on page on of all places the social security administration web site.
http://www.ssa.gov/history/cough.html
“Small, poor ‘grassroots’ political movements are regularly corrupted by the ‘mother’s milk’”
It wasn’t water that paid for that billboard Jack Ryan’s friends put up. You’re just some sort of “concern” troll that never really contributes anything except theological hairsplitting..
If any group of activists is “grass roots” it is the folks here who have been making the League of the South demonstrations against ethnic displacement happen. If you are too far away to drive to their rallies then at least contribute a few bucks to the LOS or OD. Otherwise STFU.
Coughlin merely occupied and exploited the vacuum left by the rapidly shrinking Klan that once burned crosses against him.