Kansas
Update: Glenn Miller (aka Rounder) of VNN Forum has been arrested in connection with the shootings in Kansas.
Hmm … it sounds like another case of a self detonating lone wolf vanguardist:
“Two shootings have been reported at two separate Jewish-related sites in Overland Park, Kansas, leaving at least two people dead — one at each location.
The first shooting was reported at about 1PM at the Jewish Community Center of Greater Kansas City. This was followed by reports of a shooting at Village Shalom, an assisted living center that has since been placed on lockdown.
It is unclear at this moment whether the two incidents are related, and there has been no immediate word on other injuries or a suspect description, though a reporter at KCTV says “a man in handcuffs at the scene was yelling about Hitler.”
Is this who people are talking about? WN Glenn Miller is the same as Frazier Glenn…
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Miller
It is Glenn Miller:
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2014/04/13/frazier-glenn-miller-longtime-anti-semite-arrested-in-kansas-jewish-community-center-murders/
I’m amazed at all the “vanguardist” fools over at Stormfront and VNN crowing over this. Don’t they all realize how this is going to make us all look bad? And congrats, Mr. Miller, you’ve handed your life-long enemy a fantastic propaganda victory.
I’m stunned, but not surprised.
Stunned because there was no inkling in his recent posts on VNN that this was coming. Not surprised because Alex has been spouting this shit for years now and it was only a matter of time before one of his followers acted on his advice.
Glenn also idolizes Alex and killing Jews is the sort of thing that would impress Alex.
Nevsky says:
April 14, 2014 at 1:58 am
“Don’t they all realize how this is going to make us all look bad?”
Of course they do. At least some of them. These websites, anyone on the planet can join.
Anyone.
Get it?
@ Nevsky
You got that right. I stand by all of my comments, but will say that this one seems to be real, given the video. Hmm…I’ve avoided the Sirhan Sirhan was drugged/mind-controlled meme (he and his defense have been claiming this in court), but this incident causes one to wonder.
Or, it’s just an angry old crank who really went out with his boots on. How on earth does a pro-White ever think actions like these could help anyone? It’s bizarre. He couldn’t even focus on his targets…
It’s also one reason I personally stay away from ‘organized’ nazis, or nazis generally. They intrinsically scare me, even as I recognize how utterly false the Holohoax and lots of myths about Nazism are.
Ginger,
Well if a good number of these vanguardists are SPLC moles, they’ve been at it for a long time. Some of them have had active accounts for almost a decade, regularly posting and commenting on those sites. Who’s to say if they are really fake or not?
I don’t see how we can move forward as a movement with all these vanguardists snapping at a rate of once or twice a year.
NYYankees: Notice how blurred the photos of him particularly are, here in the NY Post:
http://nypost.com/2014/04/13/shooter-kills-3-dead-at-jewish-centers-in-kansas/
That’s a screen shot of a video where he’s walking. No surprise that it’s slightly blurry.
NYYankees, your claiming to have an inside source for the Von Brunn incident is no proof at all. There’s no way we can test the source to attempt to falsify the information. If it can’t be tested, it can’t be proven true or false. This type of hair brained claim is typical among conspiracy theorists such as yourself. It’s this type of thinking among many members of the racialist right that caused me to distance myself from the movement until I came across OD, the LS, and the CofCC. I found that there are people in this movement who are capable of rational thought, being able to think out things, without latching on to some coo-coo conspiracy theory or blaming one religious or ethnic group for all the evil in the world.
And now I see you’re doing the same silly thing with this incident. Please NYY, look at the real evidence before your eyes, instead of superimposing ready made explanation of it.
Golly, did Linder really just say *that*?
Listen to his little speech; who out there still wonders why many of us in the northern territories harbor suspicions that most to all of the pro-White movement is jew-orchestrated?
Did I ever call it?
1.) Initial reaction: “Hmm … it sounds like another case of a self detonating lone wolf vanguardist.”
2.) Second reaction: “The so-called “hate groups” are rarely responsible for this kind of violence – it is almost always WN lone wolves of the vanguardist stripe who suffer from mental illness and act on their own initiative.
I’m guessing his name will soon be released to the public. Once the FBI searches his computer this evening, we should know who he is on VNN Forum.”
3.) Third Reaction: “Is it just me or does the shooter vaguely look like Glenn Miller? I know Glenn is also in his 70s, but I haven’t seen any recent photos. The police said the shooter is from Missouri and not from the area”
4.) It turns out it is Glenn Miller of VNN Forum.
Dalton, when you say, “If it can’t be tested, it can’t be proven true or false.” I say, yup, as is the case with most ‘mental illnesses.’
LLD, you could be right in this instance about the cause of the blurring, but I’m 100% positive that the media uses the technique intentionally in many cases, although I’ve only seen it done in still photographs.
I’m also certain this is a horrible blow to anyone attempting to advocate for Whites. What a f****** nut.
NYYankees.
Take Dalton’s advice. You seem a bit distressed. Your posts go from pillar to er I’m post … All the time.
The bombings in Boston were quite clearly carried out by Chechen Muslims who never should have been in the US. A lot of people were hurt or killed. It’s fair to blame the insane immigration and refugee policies of the US and possibly connect it to blow back from CIA operations. But it wasn’t a special effect.
Nevsky says:
April 14, 2014 at 2:12 am
“I don’t see how we can move forward as a movement with all these vanguardists snapping at a rate of once or twice a year.”
I think its time to outgrow these people. What has fascism and Jews got to do with anything Pro White anyway? These people hijacked the Pro White movement 50 years ago and they won’t let go. If they want to talk about that stuff, they need to get their own websites and take the consequences.
I think Pro Whites should take a civil rights view. Take the moral high ground and lobby for White interests, regardless of the current regime. Jew obsessives and anyone with a political ideology fetish, need to be shown the door.
The discussion should be about what is good for Whites and nothing else. Its a form of discipline.
“I recognize how utterly false the Holohoax and lots of myths about Nazism are.”
It is irrefutable is that both the SS and the Wehrmacht killed millions of Jewish, Polish, and Russian/Ukrainian civilians. They did this either by starving and/or working them to death and fatal disease, or shooting and then burying entire villages en masse as retaliation for partisan attacks. Even German war veterans admit this.
Stop posting rubbish.
I chimed in and made a cursory ID based on a photo search.
Hey Hunter, is the shit from this fan heading your way?
Ginger,
I agree with you, except I’ve come to realize that we can’t ignore the Jewish role in our dispossession (I once was a militant philo-semite intolerant of all criticism of Jews). We need to acknowledge our conflict with them, without making them out to be our number 1 arch-nemesis responsible for all of our ills. I think there’s a sensible middle ground. Like how we can talk about black crime without pathologically hating them.
But yes, we need to be more pro-white. And Alex Linder and his ilk need to hijack a different movement.
“anyone with a political ideology fetish, need to be shown the door.
The discussion should be about what is good for Whites and nothing else.”
Being concerned about what is good for Whites is a political ideology.
A few years ago, I debated Alex Linder on Radio Free Mississippi, and both me and Jim Giles called him out on his position on exterminating the Jews. We both told him on the radio show that it was crazy and irresponsible.
And now here we are.
Rudel says:
April 14, 2014 at 2:27 am
“Being concerned about what is good for Whites is a political ideology.”
But no one will do it.
Capt. John where have you seen me somehow taking some position on Boston? I have no idea what happened, and don’t really care for some reason. I posted a link if anyone wanted to explore it. I’ve never once taken a position on it.
What I notice, is that some folks who feel strongly about some view they hold often try to distort or fabricate what another has said who they feel conflict with. That to me signals ‘distress’ or certainly an overwrought posture.
Nevsky says:
April 14, 2014 at 2:26 am
“Ginger,
I agree with you, except I’ve come to realize that we can’t ignore the Jewish role in our dispossession (I once was a militant philo-semite intolerant of all criticism of Jews). We need to acknowledge our conflict with them, without making them out to be our number 1 arch-nemesis responsible for all of our ills. I think there’s a sensible middle ground. Like how we can talk about black crime without pathologically hating them. ”
Well don’t complain when Jew obsessives detonate.
Funny how the people that wear uniforms and want the most disciplined society, are the ones with the least amount of discipline – They detonate.
The Wehrmacht quite deliberately starved Leningrad instead of attempting to capture it outright. Millions are estimated to have died in the siege and the Germans seem to have casually decided to erase St Petersberg from the map if they’d won.
St Petersberg is a Baltic city. Quite a beautiful one in some respects. The people living there are practically indistinguishable from Swedes, Poles, Finns etc etc.
“Rotten” is a word that can be fairly applied to that episode.
Yankees, check what you wrote down.
If you are in NYC just enjoy it for a bit. Soho is a good laugh. Get drunk, go for a a walk about.
“But no one will do it.”
Then you haven’t been paying attention to the rallies that have been publicized on this site over the past year.
In that asinine video, Linder plays right into the hands of our enemies. What a maroon!
“The Wehrmacht quite deliberately starved Leningrad instead of attempting to capture it outright.”
Don’t forget that the Finns participated in the siege.
The shit is about to hit the fan on VNN Forum.
It isn’t a siege unless the Finns show up.
I understand the Finns refused to enter St Petersberg though. And they would have been easily able to do so initially.
Rundstedt in his initial plan had recommended Leningrad as a first season target and only then to knockout Moscow in the second campaign summer once Leningrad had been occupied. It’s an interesting alternative history.
This is really sad. It hurts our entire movement. We should denounce violence at all cost. We should educate the entire White Race that positive political activism is the way to go not giving up your life using violence. From what I hear Miller wasn’t in good health cause of smoking for years. He probably thought he didn’t have much time left on Earth and wanted to go out with a bang. What a stupid waste of the rest of your life.
Two of the people he shot appear to have been Methodists.
TNB?
That’s also my guess.
Alex has been saying “exterminate the Jews” for years now. He got bad health news. Wanted to go out with a bang.
A 14 year old boy and his grandfather. The boy’s middle name was Griffin.
Classic VNN meltdown.
It was both ill-conceived and poorly executed. Yeah, and he ended up killing two White Methodists, one of whom was a 14-year-old boy.
“The shit is about to hit the fan on VNN Forum.”
Yeah, that’s a fair assesment. Linder’s face will be plastered all over the MSM come tomorrow in the morning.
This wad a really stupid thing to do.
The problem with a nazi is that he’ll often end up shooting the equivalent of “14 year old Methodists”.
Surely, the feds won’t try to find a way to connect this to Alex “Exterminate The Jews” Linder, and they won’t play that television clip of him saying it either.
If Linder has two brain cells, he is on the phone with an attorney right now.
It should be interesting to see how that plays out in court … especially, if Glenn has second thoughts, and tries to pin it on Linder like at the Fort Smith trial.
I’ve been wanting to ask for some time, what does ‘TNB’ stand for?
Does this mean I should cancel my roadtrip to Kirksville?
As if I was planning on doing a roadtrip to Kirksville.
If this plays out like HW thinks it will, Linder won’t be in Kirksville for much longer.
Typical Nigger Behavior.
In this case Typical Nazi Behavior.
Pissed of at Senegalese French Colonial troops in Cologne and Aachen? Let’s starve the Dutch!
Methodists! I ask you!
Rudel says:
April 14, 2014 at 2:38 am
“But no one will do it.”
“Then you haven’t been paying attention to the rallies that have been publicized on this site over the past year.”
In this case its “Southerners”, which is flirting with civic nationalism. I know why it is done, because under the current regime, talking about White interests explicitly, is verboten.
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Last thing I will say about the the Jew obsessive detonators. When they detonate, they do more than anyone to help the SPLC/ADL, end the first amendment in America. Which means ending free speech for Whites globally. That makes them anti-White.
With Miller being from Aurora and Linder currently living in Kirksville, I expect all the statewide news sources of any consequences to be making an issue of this starting tomorrow. Strangely, only the KC Star has glommed onto Miller, and nobody has yet noticed Linder. But give it time.
Isn’t this the same swamp that gave us Cobb?
Is this deliberate?
Or is it the fetid nature of the swamp?
I liken it to those “white nationalists” that hate Putin and stood for the IMF coup. A cancer that needs to be excised.
This will also help the SPLC get back within the good graces of the FBI. Their site will be once again linked to the FBI’s official website.
This vindicates the SPLC in so many ways.
I noticed Mosin hasn’t posted for a while.
Detective Hunter Wallace had cracked the case before anyone else on the internet.
Isn’t Linder a common Jewish name? He looks like he could be Jewish as well.
The same swamp that gave us the Curt Maynard, Yankee Jim, and JT Ready murder suicides, Joe Snuffy the Spokane bomber, Todd Van Biber who blew himself up with a pipe bomb, and Craig Cobb’s plot to take over Leith and his “patrol” of the town.
I’d say the SPLC and ADL pull in >$5 million from this
“Surely, the feds won’t try to find a way to connect this to Alex “Exterminate The Jews” Linder, and they won’t play that television clip of him saying it either.”
A wrongful death suit against Linder on behalf of the victim’s family is meat and potatoes for Morris Dees and the SPLC.