Editor’s Note: As some of you may recall, I was initially supportive of Nick Fuentes and America First during the Groyper War even though I didn’t personally care for him. He struck me as an arrogant, immature and conceited kid. I also agreed with Nick on Christianity. Somewhere in 2020, there came a point when he really began to get on my nerves mainly because it seemed like he had sold out and become just another Trump influencer. This became increasingly obvious during the Stop the Steal rallies which have ended in an absolute disaster for both him and the America First movement. Nick made a fatal mistake in “trusting Trump” and getting involved with these people around him.
Hey @RudyGiuliani and @RaheemKassam you need to STOP LYING about the groypers immediately. Groypers attended dozens of stop the steal protests nationwide for months to support your effort to defeat voter fraud and had no hand in planning anything at the Capitol. SHAME ON YOU!— Nicholas J. Fuentes (@NickJFuentes) January 20, 2021
Rudy Giuliani calls for “Trial by Combat” an hour before the Capitol Siege and now he is going to FALSELY and recklessly accuse young Trump supporters of organizing violence with antifa? It’s a blatant LIE and it’s despicable. Throwing your own supporters under the bus!— Nicholas J. Fuentes (@NickJFuentes) January 20, 2021
I used to have a lot of respect for Nick Fuentes and the “America First” movement. I listened to Nick’s show quite often from around mid-2018 until 2020. I agreed with the vast majority of his viewpoints. I’m even a veteran of the Groyper War and attended one of the Dan Crenshaw events. It was around this time when Nick and his movement started to change.
As a close follower of AF for close to 2 years, summarizing its downfall will be quite easy for me. First off, let’s remember what the main goals of the Groyper War were:
- Expose mainstream conservatives (or “Con Inc” as they say) for being hardcore Zionists while rejecting any form of White identity as they also shamelessly pander to other various minority groups
- Shine the light on the fact that many mainstream conservatives have been adopting extreme social liberalism
- Win people, “the normies,” over to our side into Nationalist politics.
These were not only main tenants of the Groyper War but also main themes of Nick’s show. White Identity, Christian values and highlighting Jewish power were central components of America First until around 2020.
The energy was electric during our feud with TPUSA. I felt as is we were making great progress and exposing the phony liberal right as being completely unfit to deal with any of the problems we are facing as a nation. However, during this time, Nick seemed to make some odd friends. Michelle Malkin, Alex Jones, Milo Yiannopoulos and various other alt-lite types began to become seemingly sympathetic to Nick’s cause. Malkin even joined in and was a vocal advocate of Nick’s at the time. Alex and Milo both had Nick on their respective shows. Baked Alaska’s career was rehabilitated by Nick and he became relevant again after he had blamed white supremacist meme culture for the Christchurch shooting.
There were definitely reasons to be suspicious of Nick well before the 2020 election. His support of neocon actions in Syria, Iran and Venezuela as well as his various feuds with several of the various figures in the alt-right were all things to raise one’s eyebrows. He went on a weird boomeresque rant on Telegram and questioned if the people who have a problem with America committing war crimes “work for the UN.” But as mentioned before, the overriding theme of America first was White identity, Christian values and the JQ.
Despite being a little late to jump off of the Trump train, Nick was extremely critical of Donald Trump for almost all of 2019 and even called him a Shabbos goy at one point during the Groyper War. He acknowledged the obvious fact that Trump was fulfilling the neoliberal Zionist agenda at the behest of Jared Kushner and his Jewish donors while he completely abandoned the populist campaign issues that won him the 2016 election. Nick also paid little interest to the kabuki theatre surrounding the Russiagate conspiracy that many conservatives became obsessed with (maybe as an excuse to avoid talking about policy that actually affects regular Americans). Initially, he didn’t get onboard with Ramzpaul and Andrew Anglin among others who were claiming COVID was fake or just the flu. Nick supported Yang Gang in early 2019, which became relevant in nationalist circles precisely because of Trump’s betrayal to his pro-white and populist supporters in 2016. Meming Andrew Yang was a repudiation of MIGA.
Even after making some very questionable decisions from late 2019 to early 2020, I thought Fuentes still seemed to have a pretty coherent message and was attacking Republicans, and Trump specifically, for making a concerted effort to bend the knee to BLM while black and anarchist rioters were destroying small businesses and killing innocent white people. He attacked Trump and Mitch McConnell for butchering the COVID relief deal late summer. He acknowledged Trump’s disgusting betrayal of immigration patriot Jeff Sessions.
Today, Nick Fuentes has an entirely different message. Someone who I used to regard as a fellow traveler in the nationalist movement is now nothing but a Trump cheerleader and a self-described Republican. Fuentes is now basically a regular conservative whose biggest gripe with the GOP as it stands seems to be that they are not loyal enough to the King of Israel. This was his main reasoning for telling his fans to not vote in the Georgia runoff. After Loeffler and Perdue lost, Fuentes attempted to take credit by claiming it was payback for the GOP’s supposed betrayal of a New York billionaire who lost the election. The more likely reason the Republicans got smoked in Georgia is the same reason Donald Trump was destroyed in the electoral college: The standard Republican party platform is unpopular with voters.
I suppose Nick hasn’t abandoned talking about Jews entirely, but the seemingly J-woke rhetoric he does now seems to be just partisan attacks disguised as anti-Semitism. During the RNC, he asked one of the Trump critics watching his DLive stream if they were typing their question from Israel. This is an odd accusation to make, considering Trump’s approval rating is way higher in Israel than it is in America (and rightly so). He alluded to Goldman Sachs supposedly gaining prominence in the Joe Biden administration while ignoring the fact that Trump’s economic policy has been run by figures such as Gary Cohn and Steven Mnuchin.
For someone who used to understand this, I find it hard to believe that Nick is genuinely oblivious to the main storyline of the election, which is that Trump lost much of his white support (mostly in the $50-100K income range) in order to achieve more of a “big tent movement.” Nick openly admitted on a stream before the election that running on the stock market and fear mongering against socialism would not win white working-class voters. Trump won many more libertarians, blacks, never-Trumpers, homosexuals and Orthodox Jews than he did in 2016. This is not a surprise at all. He ran on criminal justice reform, the platinum plan, socialism sucks and MIGA which is why working-class whites rejected him just like they rejected Mitt Romney in 2012. Trump didn’t even pretend to represent whites this time around. Trump and the GOP got the coalition they governed and campaigned for. This is why it is very suspicious for someone who is supposedly a nationalist to attach their movement to MAGA and Stop the Steal.
Why is Nick doing this? What are the reasons for this transformation? Why did he attach his movement to Stop the Steal and the likes of Ali Alexander and essentially QAnon? Did Alex Jones offer him a seat at the table in the rightwing conspiracy-theorist milieu? Maybe this led to him latching onto the hyper-partisan anti-mask crusade or claiming the Coronavirus was a hoax. Or doing Q-tier plan-trusting conspiracies such as suggesting a video of Trump condemning many of his own supporters was potential “deepfake”? Does Milo Yiannopoulos have something compromising on him in his vault? What role did Baked Alaska play? Maybe it was the streaming opportunities and e-clout that arose from Stop the Steal. Could it possibly be a genuine ideological transformation?
One possible argument a defender of Nick’s could make is that he is neutering his message because he thinks it will help him win more people over more conservative Trump supporters. However, I don’t think this makes much sense considering that “normie conservatives” are not ethno-centric and hold far-right economic views that are way more fringe than that of many white independents, who are either moderate or on the left when it comes to economics and often much more ethno-centric. Populists are also the ones who came out strong for Trump in 2016 and then stayed home in 2020 in big numbers. This is largely why Trump lost 13% of the white vote. Why would he bend his message in order to appeal to conservatives and not this demographic?
In my opinion, the most likely scenario is that Nick got bought off by a conservative donor maybe around the time of the Groyper War.
Donald Trump is not a populist, or America-first and certainly not a nationalist. He deported less people than Obama, cut taxes for billionaires and corporations, had an Israel-first foreign policy and was probably the most pro-gay president in history. He supported anti-BDS legislation to strip Americans of their first amendment right to free speech. Trump’s own family members are close to Chabad Lubavitch and he celebrates Hanukkah. True nationalists understand that the GOP is not a vehicle for anything pro-white or populist. It is a wacky coalition of respectable “budget-hawk” Zionists and delusional Trump-cheerleading conspiracy theorists that is primarily funded by Jews and libertarians. Acting like the Republican Party can be reformed into something else is contrary to reality.
I thought the term “wignat” used to mean someone who was a racial purity spiraler, anti-Christian and promoted supposed IRL honeypots (which is ironic considering he incited many of his fans to show up at the MAGA March in DC). Now the term seems to refer to anyone who doesn’t support Donald Trump.
The phony religious angle that Nick tries to play is very misleading too. He has convinced much of his audience that by advocating for Trump (a morally bankrupt billionaire Zionist who has Jewish grandchildren) to have a second term, he is somehow carrying out God’s will.
Overall, I believe the reason that Nick still has any following among people who claim to be nationalists or populists is the same reason for Donald Trump, their personality cult. This is why I think that it’s important to be loyal to your values, your nation and your principles above any one person, especially when that person is an internet streamer who lives with his parents.