Andrew Anglin is ALL IN with Russia.
I’m pretty much the nuanced centrist between Greg Johnson and Andrew Anglin on the war between Russia and Ukraine.
“I’ve yet to see anyone other than leftists, Jews, neocons, and satanic neo-Nazis actually “Standing with the Ukraine.”
I’ve seen some allegedly “nuanced” takes on the Ukraine intervention. People seem to want to make themselves feel smart by saying “I understand Putin’s motivations, but I’m not going to support either side.” This isn’t really nuanced, it’s just someone who is either milquetoast, or wants to feel like he’s smart because he doesn’t just “automatically take the opposing position.”
I don’t think this is smart at all. It’s the big-brained centrist meme, basically. It’s pretending to be smart by claiming to have some vague higher level of understanding, which is never explicated. …”
Here is a rough outline of my position.
I will expand on this later when I get home. I’m currently on the road on my smartphone.
1. First, I have never supported American involvement in wars in Eurasia. I have never supported NATO. I don’t want to be entangled in any kind of alliance which seeks to dominate Eurasia. This is where I am coming from. I wouldn’t want to be involved in any other war there whether it was Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan. If India and Pakistan went to war, my position on it would be the same, which is to say, we shouldn’t get involved.
2. Second, I don’t like war and basically agree with paleocons and libertarians on the issue. War fuels the growth of the state. It leads to a loss of freedom. It wrecks lives. It brings out the worst in people. It fuels militarism. It is nothing to celebrate. It has massive unanticipated consequences. I’m not a cheerleader for war. I think it is awful that the war in Ukraine has become a meat grinder. I am biased against war which tends to lead to negative outcomes.
3. Third, I strongly believe based on my understanding of history that World War I, World War II and the Cold War caused the racial and cultural decline of our civilization. Those wars psychologically shattered previous generations and shaped everything that followed in the post-World War II era. History has shown time and again that wars between Europeans are devastating and contrary to our interests. Nothing was the same after the World Wars. Look at France after World War I. The nihilisitic attitude that nothing mattered is why degeneracy exploded there. Look at the entire West after World War II. The war propaganda made “racism” and nationalism taboo.
4. Fourth, I have always had a positive view of Russia, but a positive view of Ukraine as well. I didn’t have anything against Ukraine before this war erupted. I don’t think it is our place to decide questions like who does Crimea or Donbas belong to. It is a matter which should be left to Ukrainians and Russians to sort out. It is crazy that we are even involved in settling this issue.
5. Fifth, the war has displaced millions of Ukrainian refugees, which is a human tragedy. Once again, it is sad and nothing to celebrate.
6. Sixth, I can’t blame Ukrainians for fighting to defend their country. It is understandable why most Americans sympathize with them. Regardless of what we might think of the Zelensky regime (I am against it), you can’t fault ordinary Ukrainians for defending themselves.
7. Seventh, we shouldn’t be wishcasting and projecting our own alienation from our own government on to this conflict. It is not about us and our situation here. It is a family quarrel between East Slavs. It is sad, but distant from us. It shouldn’t be our fight.
8. Eighth, Americans are deeply ignorant about the rest of the world and know very little about what has been going on over there. We are getting nothing but CIA propaganda in the media. We don’t have strong ties to Ukraine. We don’t have any vital interest in Ukraine. We also have a track record of shattering complex societies like Libya, Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq that we barge into and try to impose our own way of life on. We don’t really care about Ukraine. We should be honest about our level of commitment to Ukraine. Therefore. It is best to stay out of it.
9. Ninth, the injustice that Americans and NATO inflicted on Serbia by ripping Kosovo away from that country should cause us to pause before getting involved in this war. The Serbs have exchanged roles as Autobots and Decepticons over time and it has usually depended on who is in power in Washington. The Serbs were the “good guys” in World War I and World War II and became the “bad guys” when Yugoslavia fell apart. The only reason countries like Czechoslovakia or Yugoslavia ever existed was to reward the “good guys” who had fought on our side in the World Wars.
10. Tenth, we don’t know what the outcome of this war will be. The war has strengthened NATO. It is shaking up our politics. Things might end up changing for the worse in Russia and the United States because of this especially if the situation escalates into a full blown war.
Those are just a few reasons that spring to mind why I am not willing to go ALL IN in backing Russia in this war. We should stay neutral in the conflict, provide humanitarian assistance and engage in diplomacy with the aim of deescalating the war and resolving the security situation in Europe for the benefit of all parties.
Note: No one gets richer or more powerful though off of serious good faith efforts at diplomacy which is why we will not choose that path.