.@jaketapper: Some in the West are proposing that Ukraine concede the Donbas to end the war. But those experts may have lost sight of one key part of what motivates Ukrainians. They know what and who they’re fighting against. They know life under Russian repression. pic.twitter.com/FgZg0ffHzO— State of the Union (@CNNSotu) April 10, 2022
Jeffrey Scott Shapiro is alarmed by our lack of hostility toward Russia.
In the 19th century, the United States had good relations with the Russian Empire. We bought Alaska from Russia. We traded with the Russia of the tsars. This was at a time when the Russian Empire controlled Ukraine, Central Asia, the Baltic states, Finland and partitioned Poland.
President John Quincy Adams was once our first ambassador to Russia and Secretary of State. Adams was a friend of Tsar Alexander I. He famously warned Americans against the temptation to go abroad in search of “monsters to destroy.” We had better relations with Russia before NATO which was ostensibly created to contain communism and to deter the Soviet Union from advancing on Western Europe. The mission was accomplished. The European Union is more than a match for Russia.
There is no basis for any conflict between the United States and Russia, particularly over Ukraine, which isn’t purely ideological. It is liberals who are at war with Russia. It is liberal internationalism which is the cause of the present conflict. The United States and Russia are separated by three vast oceans, Canada and the European Union which ought to be more than sufficient as natural barriers to avoid any collision between the two powers. The fate of Donbas should be of utterly no interest to Americans.
The European Union can fight for Ukraine. It is the EU that Ukraine wants to join, not the United States. The war in Ukraine should be their problem to solve. It is on their eastern border.
“I served in the Trump administration and fiercely defended the former president. During his administration, no dictator dared do anything close to what Vladimir Putin is doing in Ukraine now. But the things some America-first conservatives are now saying about Mr. Putin alarm me.
I noticed this after I condemned Russia’s invasion in a group chat with Trump appointees. One replied with a Z, the pro-Russia war symbol. One made a vulgar suggestion that President Volodymyr Zelensky was crooked. Others supported Ukraine, and it was clear our group was splitting into two factions.
That split within the right has emerged publicly as well. “Putin has laid out what he wants in Ukraine—a decent starting point,” congressional candidate Joe Kent said March 31, speaking at what was styled an “emergency” conference called “Up From Chaos.” Mr. Kent, who is challenging Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (R., Wash.) in a primary, called Mr. Putin’s demand that Ukraine cede Donetsk and Luhansk “very reasonable.” Helen Andrews, a senior editor for American Conservative magazine said, “Ukraine is a corrupt country. Come and get me.” …
Still, that so many leading America-firsters are parroting the Kremlin’s narrative suggests the movement has taken a dangerous turn. The reasonable goal of reducing military adventurism has regressed toward extreme isolationism, producing a self-described antiwar movement that preaches peace while callously ignoring war crimes.”
“Extreme isolationism” has gone from an unwillingness to fight Britain’s wars to an unwillingness to fight Russia over Donbas. We’re actually suffering from extreme globalism, militarism and imperialism.
Note: BTW, if you are wondering where I got a positive impression of Russia, it is from Russian YouTube. Why should I be at war with people like Dan and his family? Over Donbas?