Politico: Most Republicans Support Declaring United States a Christian Nation

The real world and the internet are two different things.

In the real world, defense of White identity has always been strongly associated with defense of Christianity in the United States, especially with Protestantism, which is a relationship that stretches back deep into the colonial era when Anglo-Protestant settlers began to think of themselves as White people. There is a clear positive relationship across virtually all polls between religiosity and White identity. Historically, the states with the strongest traditions of drawing sharp racial distinctions in the South and parts of the Midwest have been dominated by White evangelical Protestants.

On the internet though, the conventional wisdom in certain corners of the White Nationalist movement is that White identity is strongly associated with atheism and paganism (!) when all the polling shows that the opposite is true. The most secular Whites are far more liberal across all issues including race. According to these people, the biggest threat to the White race is Christian nationalists like Andrew Torba and we should focus on our efforts on appealing to the elites like David Frum and Anne Applebaum.

Politico:

“Christian nationalism, a belief that the United States was founded as a white, Christian nation and that there is no separation between church and state, is gaining steam on the right.

Prominent Republican politicians have made the themes critical to their message to voters in the run up to the 2022 midterm elections. Doug Mastriano, the Republican nominee for governor in Pennsylvania, has argued that America is a Christian nation and that the separation of church and state is a “myth.” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, the Georgia hard-liner, declared: “We need to be the party of nationalism and I’m a Christian, and I say it proudly, we should be Christian Nationalists.” Amid a backlash, she doubled down and announced she would start selling “Christian Nationalist” shirts. Now Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis seems to be flirting with Christian nationalist rhetoric, as well. …

Not surprisingly, much of the support for declaring the U.S. a Christian nation comes from Republicans who identify themselves as Evangelical or born-again Christians: Seventy-eight percent of this group support the move compared to 48 percent of other Republicans. Among Democrats, a slight majority of those identifying themselves as Evangelical or born-again Christians also backed such a declaration (52 percent), compared to just 8 percent of other Democrats. …

Our polling found that white grievance is highly correlated with support for a Christian nation. White respondents who say that members of their race have faced more discrimination than others are most likely to embrace a Christian America. Roughly 59 percent of all Americans who say white people have been discriminated against a lot more in the past five years favor declaring the U.S. a Christian nation, compared to 38 percent of all Americans. White Republicans who said white people have been more discriminated against also favored a Christian nation (65 percent) by a slightly larger percentage than all Republicans (63 percent). …”

Unfortunately, 59% of all Americans who say “White people have been discriminated a lot more in the past five years” support Christian nationalism. Support for Christian nationalism is strongly associated with resentment over anti-White discrimination. Both are strongly associated with White evangelical Protestants who live in small towns and rural areas in the South and Midwest.

On the issue of immigration, atheists, agnostics and Reform Jews are the most pro-immigration while Southern Baptists, Free Will Baptists and LCWS and LCMS Protestants are the most anti-immigration.

As a rule of thumb, you should consider what Richard Spencer and Mark Brahmin believe to be true and assume the opposite is true. White evangelical Protestant populists and conservatives in the Republican base are the strongest supporters of White identity. Christian nationalism isn’t a threat to White identity. It is a far more popular draw to millions of White people than Apollonian neoliberalism. Pointing this out infuriates cranks like Mark Brahmin who have made up their own personal racial religion.

24 Comments

  1. Unless a distinction is made between Jew and Christian, Christian Nationalism will devolve to Judeo-Christian Nationlism. What is a Jew and what is a Christian? A Jew persecutes and torments the weak and the innocent. A Christian defends the weak and the innocent. And never the twain shall meet.

    Lauren Boebert, Marge Taylor Greene, Doug Mastriano all support and defend the Jew and his predatory nature above the defense of the weak weak and the innocent, the sheep, the sheeple who only want to live their lives in peace.

    • >Christian Nationalism will devolve to Judeo-Christian Nationalism

      Probably — most Christians are Zionists or at least believe Israel is our ‘greatest ally’ — and the fake term Judeo-Christian is firmly established.

      The ‘Holocaust’ has functioned as the West’s moral compass for decades now, so as long as Jews as the ultimate victims, as well as ‘never again’ regarding the ‘Holocaust’, are both prominent parts of the secular moral canon, Judeo-Christian Nationalism seems more likely than Christian Nationalism.

      • There’s a simple answer. YOU HAVE TO CALL ALL SUCH, HERETICS. Excommunication, denial of Eucharist, and the inevitable Inquisition are the logical ends for such acquiescence to heresy and blasphemy. Since the Prots won’t do it, that leaves the Catholic denominations (of which Rome is not currently one!)- and they have done so, with great relish in the past.

        https://www.barnhardt.biz/2022/09/20/this-is-why-holy-mother-church-has-the-right-to-execute-heretics-right-here/

        Cowardice and the unwillingness to call out error, is the great failing of the Evangelical. But- they are waking up to the reality that ‘There is no neutrality’ as the Christian Reconstructionists said, 40 years ago; and with that, they will eventually come to the realization that their Ecclesiology is deficient. We could see a massive return to catholic order and sacramentology in our war against the Christ-killers. I, for one, would welcome it. Better to die trying than to live a traitor to one’s Church and one’s God.

        It’s what the Jews fear, and only twenty years ago, the final nail in the coffin of Jewish perfidy was let loose. I post this as often as I can. Since Elhaik’s DNA study shows that the Jews aren’t even Semites, they have nowhere left to run, to hide, or to blame…. except their sorry selves. We NEED a Final Solution, if we are to LIVE as Whites.

        “… the passage suggests rabbinic willingness to take responsibility for the execution of Jesus. No effort is made to pin his death upon the Romans……. Jewish apologetics that “we could not have done it” because of Roman sovereignty ring hollow when one examines the Talmudic account … (“Jesus in the Talmud,” Steven Bayme, American Jewish Committee National Director, Professor of History at Yeshiva University, September 24, 2003)

  2. “Unfortunately, 59% of all Americans who say “White people have been discriminated a lot more in the past five years” support Christian nationalism.”

    And 41% do not. Creating division here is exactly what the $PLC wants. It’s not good for White people.

  3. Christians say the same things that got the civil rights act passed. “We’re all created equal”, “we’re all one” etc.

    But at the same time you guys want a white state?

    • Have you ever considered that such ‘Christians’…. aren’t?

      That the Jewing went DEEP during Vatican II?
      That Jews have controlled the discourse, since early in the XXth Century?
      And that, instead of staying outside kvetching, you could do more by returning to the overt witness of Whites and Christianity as co-terminous terms?

      “Europe is the faith, and the faith is Europe…I say again, renewing the terms, The Church is Europe: and Europe is The Church.” -Hilaire Belloc, A.D. 1920. 

      As Justin Martyr (d. A.D. 165) so clearly said, ‘Christ is our King, and Christianity is our race which you knew once as Israel.”

      “Pharisaism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes in name, the spirit of the ancient Pharisee survives unaltered.”   – The Pharisees, Louis Finklestein, p. xxi

      “Fundamentally, Judaism is anti-Christian!”
      – The London Jewish World, 1923 (Issue 337)

    • Jumper98, yes, everyone is family in God’s house. There’s way too many brown folks to have a white state. Just wait till these immigrants have more kids here. You’ll have to look high n dry for a white guy. These (im)posters are just talking big online, but they’ve turned the other cheek so many times.

      • “everyone is family in God’s house”

        Not only can’t you parse intelligent discourse, you also preach heresy, as one without the Spirit of God. Evan-jelly-goo Xtianity ISN’T TRUE CHRISTIANITY. True Christianity is a White man’s religion; always has been.

        Pity your limited intellect can’t comprehend the most basic of premises.

        • Christianity is NOT a white man’s religion. Missionaries go to Africa, Asia, and other places to convert a lot of people.
          You like to distort what Christ commanded in the bible, to fit your own narrative.

  4. On the internet though, the conventional wisdom in certain corners of the White Nationalist movement is that White identity is strongly associated with atheism and paganism (!) …

    I’ve never seen this; or if I did, I ignored it and it didn’t register.

    As I’ve stated several times, for me WN is ethno-cultural, with deep evolutionary roots in tribal self-interest and survival: rule or be ruled has been the question for all peoples throughout history — what’s going on now is completely unnatural when you consider the struggle to obtain and defend territory that has gone on throughout human history — it’s also visceral: as a white male, I do not want to be ruled by non-whites — I do no want to turn over to their control the capital of civilization left to Whites by our forebears who fought and sacrificed to create it.

    As an illustration, note the image at the following link: link

    It shows tracking data for separate wolf packs in Voyageurs National Park (MN) — note how they all avoid each other’s territory.

    No wonder you lost interest in WN: it was sidetracked by a lot of ancillary bullshit.

    OT (related)

    Interesting:

    link

    My piece today at @FamStudies tackles an issue I’ve come to think is at the heart of demographic change: anxiety and depression. … Research suggests fertility choices are highly sensitive to mental health, which is deteriorating rapidly in America.

    I would also say that per Putnam, demographic change causes a declining sense of belonging and security.

    The article is here:

    More Anxiety, Fewer Children: Mental Health and Fertility in America

  5. For many decades, Conservative Whites have struggled to figure out how to find a method to defend the notion of this country being a European nation, without seeming to be repellant to those other Whites, and or minorities, whom they would wish to enlist in the task.

    This semantic methodology of Christian Nationalism, along with the historical timing, seems to be the method which is, and, indeed, holds the prospect of, fulfilling the task.

    I do agree with The Left that Christian Nationalism is merely code for White Nationalism, though, whereas the latter could interpreted in a variety of ways which might include concerted and sustained acts of disenfranchisement against American citizens NOT, or not principally,of European blood, the former does not.

    And so there you have it : Whites are going to attempt to do what is necessary to restore this land to something that will be copasetic with it’s founding.

    How long that process takes, how it plays out, and how many countries wind up coming from this one, are now the vagaries.

    The ground, however, seems to be settling.

    It’s about time.

    • Bingo. And there you have the heart of the problem. Between Cyrus Scofield’s heretical Bible and Vatican II’s announcement that Jews have a special back door to heaven (and therefore need not be evangelized), the majority of that which refers to itself as Christianity in Murika publicly worships the Judeo-Christ – which is every bit as Christian as the golden calf was (and the golden dindu is).

      Note who started all this talk about “Christian Nationalism” in the wake of the overturn of Roe v. Wade, which as has been pointed out ad infinitum did not ban a single abortion but returned the issue to the states. The gaslight media started beating their Handmaid’s Tale drum and the worthless Repukes have played right along by pushing fairly extreme anti-abortion law in TX and a few other states while hopping aboard the ‘Christian Nationalism’ bandwagon with stupid political remarks and stunts. It’s all about making the ‘hos mad’ (as Anglin said) so they’ll vote for Shitpants, Pelosi, et al in order that the planned massive vote fraud will be more plausible.

  6. Online “white nationalism” is an international scene, domestic US politics are not. The religious make-up of the nationalist scenes differ greatly. In Germany it’s about 50% East German atheist and the other half equally split between Christians and Pagans/Buddhists/whatever. Fortunately religion is the one thing not dividing us. In Italy it is majority and explicitly Catholic. And as you can’t divorce Italian nationalism from Catholicism, you can hardly divorce American white nationalism from the WASP.

    It’s also why online white nationalism never went further than memes and media consumption: the countries are just too different for a one-size-fits all McWhite Identity. And as far as I see it, that’s also why Hunter went for Southern Nationalism. Which is more substantial than just white identity, because it includes culture, heritage, religion and traditions. Which is true and the norm in Europe, no matter how often burger white nationalists may complain about it.

    • A very good observation. The basic principle that one size does not fit all goes for any political ideology. Even communist bigshots like Mao, Stalin and Castro understood that their particular brand of ‘socialism’ was basically only good for one country. That’s how we ended up with the (((neo-klowns))) – Jewish Bolsheviks who wanted to be the vanguard of an international revolution, funded by Jewish banksteins like Shiff and Warburg. You’ll note which countries are now the target of their Globo-Pedo empire’s war machine.

  7. Declaring America a Christian Nation would be a good way to own the Libs.

    Why not go full bore and declare Jesus as King? Poland tried to do that a few years ago but it was so hard core that even the Vatixan was a lil squinish about it and asked ultra Trad Catholic Poles to cool it.

  8. This is a big mistake to push this stuff. We really need to get white women to step back from the democrats and the abortion thing really turns them off. Even responsible white women dread the financial and physical burden of an unplanned pregnancy. PLUS the total embarrassment when it become visible to all they were having sex and got knocked up. It’s very much about losing face and having abortion as an option in the back of their minds eases their worries. A bitter pill like this is something you do after you gain massive power, not when you are pitching a sale.

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