We’re all eugenicists now. pic.twitter.com/iGwGzore7T
— American Renaissance (@realAmRen) April 10, 2025
“I’m a big believer in genetics. Two slow race horses don’t produce a Kentucky Derby winner.” — Donald Trump
— iamyesyouareno (@iamyesyouareno) April 12, 2025
And what are you going to do with that massive pile of bad genes we’re holding, Mr. President? pic.twitter.com/F0c2kCjOw3
No way LMAOOOO ???? pic.twitter.com/JmddkECbRE
— Garbage Human (@GarbageHuman24) April 12, 2025
I have mixed feelings about this.
Eugenics is one of the few issues where I have changed my mind.
In my youth, I was very supportive of eugenics and bought a bunch of books about the subject. This was long before I was married and had my own children and became a Christian. I remain supportive of positive eugenics, which is compatible with Christianity, and which is just encouraging people of good stock to be more mindful when choosing their mates and encouraging them to have larger families.
You could even say that I still support negative eugenics to some degree. I think we should restore anti-miscegenation laws and the taboo on race mixing. I think our immigration laws should be much more selective. We used to have immigration laws that screened out people with hereditary diseases, with low-IQs and who come from undesirable parts of the Third World and even Europe. We ought to change the tax code to discourage barren spinsters and perpetual bachelors. The welfare state, which puts the burden of taxation on the fit while subsidizing the unfit, is another area that ought to be reformed.
We have “NS” to thank for discrediting the whole concept of eugenics and the baby being thrown out with the bathwater. I’m referring to things like the T4 program and euthanasia, the Lebensborn program, genocide (whether or not the Holocaust happened is irrelevant because most people believe it did and that had major consequences), Nazi racial theories about the inferiority of Slavs, etc. In America, we also jumped the gun in the early days of genetics and went a little crazy with sterilizing too many poor people who were labeled feebleminded morons. This stoked a huge backlash against negative eugenics.
I’m also uneasy with modern negative eugenics. I don’t like IVF and embryo selection. I find the idea of creating children out of stem cells horrifying. I’m also skeptical of looking at our children like yields of corn or domesticated farm animals. Do we also really want to further torture the parents and children who compete to get into the best schools? Should childhood be a rat race about building a resume? Are we going to up the ante by having the children themselves be engineered in the test tube? Do we want to live in a culture where you are judged as having failed at life in the embryonic stage of development?
My view is of this is that I will settle for immigration restriction, restoring anti-miscegenation laws, restoring harmony between the sexes, reducing the number of spinsters and incels and encouraging larger White families. Right now, too many White people are failing to even have children, and non-Whites are exploding in numbers all around this. We don’t have the time to think about a handful of designer babies who will certainly be too few in number to reverse our demographic decline.
Note: The thawing of the taboo on eugenics is another example of how we in a period of rapid cultural change.
“The welfare state, which puts the burden of taxation on the fit while subsidizing the unfit, is another area that ought to be reformed.”
You demonstrate why eugenics has mostly been a pseudo-science. Only in the Nazi regime did you see a serious scientific method towards improving society as a whole. If “eugenics” is left to Republican voting hucksters, it becomes nothing more than a fraudulent scheme for preserving bourgeois profit. It’s the old paleocon cuckery that idealizes Capitalism as inherently eugenic even though Capitalism destroyed the society they rather pathetically tried to preserve. From there it is only a hop, skip, and a jumb to Richard Hanania, Bryan Caplan, and Zionist innuendo about “IQ” and the magic of markets.
You can’t worship God and Mammon both. This whole protestant Grand Inquisitor thing of yours is bad.
‘. Only in the Nazi regime did you see a serious scientific method towards improving society as a whole. ‘
Sweden had a thriving institute for racial and eugenics studies, so did Norway. I wouldn’t be surprised if Finland and Switzerland also had such institutions.
So much news and true information is kept from us.
Keep the goys stupid!
Exactly!
The gay old pedos’ main talking point in 2020 wasn’t law and order, but “Socialism Sucks.” Though the republicans are never allergic to corporate socialism known as subsidies.
I’m still waiting for any of “the fit” to go to prison 2008 subprime loan financial meltdown. Wall Street (((banks and bankers))) were bailed out in the tune of 23 trillion in the US government Wall Street Ponzi scheme.
Does OD believe the wealth accumulation during the scamdemic by billionaires was another example of financial fit eugenics?
I believe it was Hitler himself who said that the future belonged to the stronger, superior race of the East because his wars had destroyed Germany and killed off the best, brightest and bravest of a generation of German men. Keith brought that up in his articles.
Eugenics was thriving in America before World War II. We had immigration laws that screened for intelligence and hereditary diseases and a preference for Northern Europeans. Most states had sterilization laws. The Supreme Court had upheld the constitutionality of eugenic sterilization in the Buck v. Bell decision. There was no taboo on “racism” or eugenics. Personally, I agree with some of the critics that genetics was in its infancy and eugenicists had gone too far, too fast, but the backlash that discredited the whole concept of eugenics and took down racialism with it was 100% caused by World War II which changed public opinion. It wouldn’t have happened otherwise.
The Cultus of the Holy Androgyne: Some thoughts on the connection between the historical ideas of St. Paul and how they may have planted the seeds for where we are today… https://rumble.com/v2i95mu-is-transgenderism-a-christian-cult-galatians.html
‘We have “NS” to thank for discrediting the whole concept of eugenics ‘
I think your viewpoint has been badly skewed by war/post-war propaganda .
You’re repeating many media cliches.
Correct observation. Had the NS regime had even half of the manpower and resources it was up against, Europe would be White, clean, and safe right now.
I would say this is unquestionable.
Before World War II, there was no taboo on racialism, nationalism or eugenics. Those taboos were created by the war which 1.) empowered liberals and 2.) changed public opinion and 3.) discredited all three which were associated with “NS.” The reason those taboos are eroding now is that everyone who lived through the war or who were born immediately afterwards and were strongly shaped by it are either dead or elderly. The people who lived through that ordeal didn’t romanticize it.
Waaaaaaa National Socialism
To be fair the Germans were imitating American Race Laws.
Late comers to the game as it were.
Roughly at the time that American geneticists were abandoning immutable heritability, Germans picked up the idea that heredity was the be all and end all.
President “Cornholio” Trump is now saying he will NOT deport illegal aliens who work in hotels, motels, restaurants, vacation resorts, farming and food processing. Who the hell does he plan on deporting.
Well kids mass deportations are off the table!
I saw it.
This is an excellent opportunity to put pressure on him. Criticize him for the right reasons.
William Shockley, inventor of transistor, was a big advocate for eugenics along with the first & founding president of Stanford, David Starr jordan.
The media has done everything to slander the reputation of both men.
We’re all eugenicists to some degree.
If you want to restrict immigration because you prefer Whites over non-Whites or you want to make miscegenation illegal, you are a eugenicist. The question is how far it should go. My position is that “NS” went way too far and brought the whole way of thinking into disrepute with devastating consequences. It empowered liberals. Hitler lost to liberals.
Ok, but you know that’s not good enough. Trump ran on 3 things: mass deportations, tariffs to protect workers, and peace.
We don’t have mass deportations, he blew the tariffs and it looks like war with Iran is on the horizon.
I get you don’t want to be wrong but can you at least admit the promised golden age isn’t quite what you expected?
“We ought to change the tax code to discourage barren spinsters”.
Won’t work. The next crazy Democrat President will just let them claim their cats as dependents on their income tax forms.
How do you account for the mule? Charles Darwin wrote: “The mule always appears to me a most surprising animal. That a hybrid should possess more reason, memory, obstinacy, social affection, powers of muscular endurance, and length of life, than either of its parents, seems to indicate that art has here outdone nature.”
Occidental Dissent is the dunce sitting in the corner wearing a conical hat on the subjects of National Socialism and WWII.
Eugenics was discredited by “NS” and World War II.
Feel free to read any book about the history of eugenics. I have several of them. The same is true of racialism. The very concept of “racism” wasn’t popularized until the war.
Humans should not play God because our human nature destines such things to go poorly, since we’re not God. Only God can play God correctly.
Hunter, no one cares about your views on eugenics. talk about trump’s recent comments in favor of amnesty. talk about the immigration generally. people are correctly identifying everything you post as either trump shilling or endlessly complaining about people to the right of you.
What about immigration?
Illegal immigration has never been lower in my lifetime. It is true that deportations are lackluster, but Trump inherited ICE in its current state from Biden. It is up to Congress to fix the problem. As for these people “to my Right,” I assume you are referring to the grifters who voted for Kamala Harris and who live off donations and superchats. They don’t want to solve the problem because there is nothing in it for them.
Eugenics is a tricky concept, with no easy answer. While it is obvious that disgusting practices such as race mixing should be outlawed, as it violates God’s command to honor your fathers and mothers (always properly understood as your entire ancestry), the notion of restricting the blessings of family to only the “best” in IQ, etc, seem ghoulish and demonic to me.
God’s first command to his people after they were cast from the garden was to “Go forth, be fruitful and multiply”. That should always be respected. It’s why barbaric practices like abortion should be outlawed.
I agree.
The idea of testing an embryo and deeming it unworthy of life, not because of some crippling hereditary disease, but because there are more promising candidates or selecting for gender, is PMC culture gone mad. Sorry, darling, but you were never born because you failed your exam and we think you are unworthy of life!
The old South was completely Masonic. I was born during the late years of the Byrd machine in Virginia. You couldn’t be anything in Virginia in politics, business, schooling, or even in the Church, unless you were a Mason. It was similar throughout the Old South.
Now that God has Judged and destroyed the Old South for its Judeo Jewish heresy, and the end of it is near, we need to begin clarifying that the New Confederacy will have no Masons. It will be illegal.
Napolean persecuted Masronry. He well knew that all wars in his time were started by Jewish bankers and fought by Masonic officers. The simple Christian foot soldiers were just there to die.
The new Confederacy will only need one religion, Christianity. We will have no need for any Jews or Muslims or Hindus or Mormons and especially no Freemasons. One religion. All the others will be free to move North. That is positive Eugenics. Move the garbage out, and those absurd neopagans included.