Pope Francis Dies At 88

I’m not going to dance on his grave.

I understand that this is a sensitive moment for the Catholic Church.

The most respectful thing I can say about this is 1.) that I hope the next pope is more like Pope Benedict XVI than Pope Francis and 2.) that Catholics don’t have to defend Jorge Bergoglio anymore.

Axios:

Pope Francis died on Easter Monday at age 88, the Vatican announced.

The big picture: Pope Francis pushed the Catholic Church to the left, which satisfied Catholics seeking modernization but dismayed traditionalists. …”

I’m also not going to sit here and claim that modern Lutheran leaders are any better. I have explained many times here that sadly our leaders are just as cucked as the Catholics.

Note: As Lutherans, we don’t have to think of Matt Harrison as the Holy Father. We don’t have to pretend that he is infallible or the Vicar of Christ on earth.

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  1. “I’m also not going to sit here and claim that modern Lutheran leaders are any better. I have explained many times here that sadly our leaders are just as cucked as the Catholics.”

    You are comparing apples to oranges. It would be better to compare Lutheran’s various sects in America with the Catholic Church in America. Then things become clearer. Likewise Globally. For example, the Lutheran Church heriarchy is more traditionalist than the Roman Catholic Church worldwide. Same holds true for all of the other Protestant denominations.

    The problem with White Protestant Churches, like White Protestant countries, is their leadership is not reflective of their White members. The same is in White Catholic countries and White Catholic Churcbes. But there is a difference.

    While White Protestant leaders are liberal their members are conservative. In contrast, while White Catholic leaders are more centrist even conservative, their members are more liberal. We see that reflective in political or ideological surveys. White Protestant Americans are far more conservative than White Catholic Americans. Contradistinctly, White Protestant leaders are more liberal than White Catholic leaders.

    So, what we have here is a divergence of leadership with laity. One shifts liberal to its members, the other shifts conservative to its members. That is why the Catholic heirarchy is consistently trying to corral free roaming blackpilled White Protestant laity into the Catholic fold especially thru political means like how rightwing groups always seem to have Papists in charge.  

    Because the Roman Catholic church is heriarchial and bureaucratic its leadership has an outside influence on the superficial posture of the church. This makes alot of unaffiliated White Protestants attracted to the uniform dogma and tradition of the Catholic clergy.

    But, the reality is far from this truth. None more so than realizing Roman Catholic Cardinals elected a liberal Anti-Anglo Jesuit just after electing a conservative Anti-Anglo Anti-Lutheran German. The one consistent truth? Anti-Anglo-Protestants both of them. But, Hunter, the wayward Protestant still unsure about his Lutheran leadership, still thought the later was cool and thats how the Movement brought in Papists who took it over and sent it down the drain while corrode a load of former Protestants into the Whore’s Church. 

    Meanwhile, the world awaits who the conclave of Cardinals will elect as the next Pontifix Maximus, the Supreme Pontif, the Vicar of Christ, the Regent of God, the Prince Bishop of Rome, and Supreme Ruler of all Christendom, the so called Pope of Roman Catholicism. Will it be another Italian or will it be a non-Italian? Is it qas important as worrying about “Duh, Jew”? Time will tell. Note, Pope Francis is described as the first non-European and South American. The fact is, he was Italian from Argentina and voted in Italian elections.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2025/04/21/who-will-be-next-pope-candidates/80000828007/ He also, never stopped being a Jesuit.
    https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2025/04/21/pope-francis-death-jesuit-obituary-249957

    Meanwhile lots of intrigued will be going on and has been for the last year or so. Cardinals have resigned, sickened, died, etc. How many Vatican Deep State, Mafiosi, Bankers will die in the coming days? Lots. It happens every election, both just before, during and after a new Pope is made. But no one talks about it. Instead we get to talk about JProof coins. You know who rules you by how you aren’t allowed to talk about them but you are allowed to talk about others.
    https://youtu.be/5uK3wYrl3aU?si=P5uF4jh6VtVE46IT

    • More undocumented drivel from the papist hater. Dude, you are seriously obsessed. I get a giggle out of ignorant protestants claiming the moral highground. What a joke, evangelicals love Christ killers more than Christ. Don’t believe me, go to one of their churches (sic) adorned with Israeli flags. I know, I once was an evangelical until I studied the Church fathers.
      Luther’s Turd

  2. Have you considered the Baptists? I think we hold the fort better than any other as far as American Christendom goes.

    • @Joe Miner NYC
      Southern Baptist here and agree. Independent Southern Baptist, not affiliated with the SBC or any other such group.

      • Larpers? I am raising a traditionalist Catholic family. What is larping about going to mass, sending my kids to a Catholic school, praying at home, teaching my kids about God and the church and trying to live out my faith on a daily basis?


        • @R. Rhett,

          “I am raising a traditionalist Catholic family. What is larping about going to mass, sending my kids to a Catholic school, praying at home, teaching my kids about God and the church and trying to live out my faith on a daily basis?”

          That’s so basic. That is simple piety. Jews, Moslems, Hindus, all do those things for their ethno-sectarian groups. At any rate, in America, more Protestants do that except they send their kids to Protestant Churches. The point is, what is the spirit behind it? Until Americans get behind their symbols, icons, churches, schools, memorials, with a spirit of Americanism, nothing will improve.

    • In what way do Baptists “hold the fort”? The Angglicans split off from the church that Jesus founded so that the king of England could get divorced. They ended up throwing out a lot of traditional Christianity and now have split into numerous sects, with some endorsing homosexualty and female priests. The Methodists then split off from the Angglicans, throwing out even more of orthodox traditional Christianity as passed down by the Apostles and our ancestors. They have also suffered numerous splits. Then the Baptists split off from the Methodists, throwing out even more of traditional Christianity and splintering into a vast number of sects. All of this splintering off and jetisioning long-accepted Christian beliefs has got us where, exactly? It has led to huge non-denominal churches with pastors in blue jeans giving pep talks and bands playing cheesy rock/country music. That is what I have seen and it is nothing remotely like the faith of our ancestors. I don’t see anything revenant, sacrament or traditional about it. I pray our people return to the faith of our fathers.

      • @R. Rhett,

        “I am raising a traditionalist Catholic family. What is larping about going to mass, sending my kids to a Catholic school, praying at home, teaching my kids about God and the church and trying to live out my faith on a daily basis?”

        That’s so basic. That is simple piety. Jews, Moslems, Hindus, all do those things for their ethno-sectarian groups. At any rate, in America, more Protestants do that except they send their kids to Protestant Churches. The point is, what is the spirit behind it? Until Americans get behind their symbols, icons, churches, schools, memorials, with a spirit of Americanism, nothing will improve.

      • @R. Rhett,

        “In what way do Baptists “hold the fort”?”
        By keeping the Devil and his Whore, the Papacy, away from our children.

        “The Angglicans split off from the church that Jesus founded so that the king of England could get divorced.”

        They didn’t split off from Jesus Christ you confounding Papist. They declared independence from Papal Supremacy. There is nothing in the Act of Separation that says they did it so Henry VIII could get a divorce.

        Also, Henry didn’t ask for divorce he asked for annulment. But, because the Papacy is a Whore, it sold its inner thighs out to the highest bidder, namely the Hapsburgs, who were determined to have England remain their own thru Henry’s wife and their daughter Mary who was pledged to King Phillip of Spain. So, rather than recognize both Biblical consuguinity, as well as the needs for temporal future of the Tudor family, the Whore said no to Henry’s request.

        “They ended up throwing out a lot of traditional Christianity.”

        There is nothing traditional about making a Church look like a neo-pagan temple. Nor about atoning for sin by giving shekels to the Vatican Bank, nor of praying to idols as intercessors to God, nor of Peterine Supremacy.

        “They have split into numerous sects….”
        while I am not a big fan of doing so, secession in ecclesiastical government is justified in rhe same manner as secession in civil government. The Roman Whore had driven out all good government in Catholicism and Christian congregations needed to establish a new government under God. Goodbye Papacy.

        “….with some endorsing homosexualty and female priests.”

        Curiously, all such acts of blasphemy originate from Papist or Communist infiltrators. There is nothing inherently in Reformed Christianity that requires such degeneracy. I say, its all part of a Popish plot to bring down the Reformed Faith.

        “All of this splintering off and jetisioning long-accepted Christian beliefs has got us where, exactly?”

        It kept the Religion of Truth and Liberty alive, thats what it has brought us.

        “I pray our people return to the faith of our fathers.” Your people are Roman Catholics. They are not our people.

        • “the Devil and his Whore, the Papacy…”

          “the Papacy is a Whore…”

          You seem really taken with this description of Christ’s church. However, you are misunderstanding Revolution 17-18 as well as insulting over half the Christians of the world. Here is a detailed look at those texts with a historical analysis of whom it is referring to. https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-whore-of-babylon

          “There is nothing traditional about making a Church look like a neo-pagan temple.”

          Actually, the church was created by Christ during the Roman imperial era. The seat of the leading bishop of the church was in Rome. It makes all the sense in the world then that Roman architecture was used for many churches. That is a bizarre claim by you, anyhow. Most people, evven those who hold strong biases against the Catholic church, admire the beauty of our churches. It is one thing that always drew me to Catholicism, in fact. If we are actually worshipping the creator of the universe, then let’s make our worship as beautiful and reverent as possible. Also, our faith is a sacrificial one. This goes back to its roots among the ancient Hebrews. An Aryan Globalist Bro” might not like this, but most of the Israelites’ worship practices pointed toward what came during the later Christian era, just as the sacrificed lamb pointed to the slain Jesus. The same is true of the Eucharist/Communion, which was pointed to by the bread from heaven and the blood of the sacrificed lamb at the Hebrews’ temple. All of the “pagan” things you object to are traditional Christian aspects of worship pointed to by reverent, sacrificial and worshipful manner that the ancient Hebrews and later the early Christians approached their faith. You see these things in all the oldest and most enduring Christian churches (Catholic, Orthodox, Coptic, etc.). Take all of this away and add a charismatic but non-apostolic pastor in blue jeans and a backing rock band and you get the modern US non-denominational megachurch.

          “I pray our people return to the faith of our fathers.” Your people are Roman Catholics. They are not our people

          When I spoke of “our people” I was mostly referring to Southerners. But to a larger extent I meant Western folks in general. All the theological divisions that have arisen since Henry VIII sought to ditch his wife have not helped us. We frequently pray for the unity of Christians, and I know many non-Catholics do as well. I pray that day comes soon.

  3. Thank you Brad, you as always are intellectually honest. As you know I come from Italy which is the location of the Pope. I’m not religious and I disliked this Pope from the beginning, I appreciated Benedict XV and John Paul II but not this Pope. The Pope (even for me that I don’t attend the church) is one of those international figures of a certain importance. I hope the next pope will be different from this one.

  4. Two weeks after Uncle Ted died. There is no mention of where Uncle Ted has been buried in media. The Italian Mafioso are Catholic but they are all buried in Lutheran cemeteries. The Catholics do not want them. I wonder where Uncle Ted is buried. Do the Catholics still consider him one of their own?

  5. > You are comparing apples to oranges. It would be better to compare Lutheran’s various sects in America with the Catholic Church in America. Then things become clearer. Likewise Globally. For example, the Lutheran Church heriarchy is more traditionalist than the Roman Catholic Church worldwide. Same holds true for all of the other Protestant denominations.

    In the US, it depends on which branch of Lutheranism. ELCA is totally woke and apostate, root and branch. Salt without saltiness fit only to be tossed into the fire. LCMS is more like you describe though as HW has already noted the woketards have infiltrated the leadership there to a degree. There are also some incredibly based younger Lutherans coming up. Hopefully they will take control before too long. Lastly there’s the smaller Wisconsin Synod, supposedly the most conservative. Lutherans in the EUSSR are the state-funded church and fully indoctrinated woketards like the ELCA. As with a lot of other Prots, the Mission churches in Asia, Africa and Latin America tend to be the most doctrinally conservative of all. This is also pretty true in Catholicism, apart from Latin America where the Lavender mafia has been operating for a long time – hence the large number of converts to Protestantism there.

  6. The Pope is AntiChrist, just as Luther, Calvin, the Book of Concord, the Westminster Confession, and all of our Protestant ancestors knew and taught. Bergoglio was also a Jesuit, who are the enemies of all Christians.
    It is Jesuits that infiltrated the Protestant churches and turned them into the sorry abominations we have today. The church is no longer militant.
    Jesuits, Jews, and Yankees are the enemies of Christian Southerners. I shed no tears for the dead Pope. He died slowly but went to hell like a bullet.

    • @Another Christian Nationalist,

      “The Pope is AntiChrist, just as Luther, Calvin, the Book of Concord, the Westminster Confession, and all of our Protestant ancestors knew and taught….”

      100%!!!

      You said it succinctly and perfectly.

      Traditional Protestant Dogma and Theology as encapsulated by the Reformer Saints, the Confessions, etc are the core of the faith and best representative of what made White (Nordic Protestant) countries great.

      Traditionalist Protestants are doctrinally incapable of being anti-White, Liberal, Degenerates. At worst, they end up being vanilla on the race, ethnicity, etc question or lean to pacifism. The reality is no one but a strictly observant God fearing, Bible reading Protestant Britisher could have successfully overcome the dangerous and deadly sea passage to colonies, overcome the indigenous enemies and their Catholic European allies, survived the diseases, carved out a life, and built with their families a new life. All this despite the many setbacks, losses of land, oppressions, deaths, trials, and tribulations. While this was glorious, when they left their original homes, they created a longing for a past half remembered which is why sometimes their posterity still feels a stranger and still is stirred to move on to that unseen and mythic Jerusalem. If we hope to maintain their victory we must be more like them, be true to the Biblical Faith of our fathers, remember where we come from and re establish the links severed so long ago.
      https://youtu.be/05z5ZXKHKbY?si=7bCHvScqkOpWFbvs

      Almost all of the great Protestant colonialists expanded their respective countries’ power thru settlerism, Biblicalism, and clear eyed understanding of the nature of man in general and races in particular as evinced by those first British and Protestant colonists. Later generations looked to them when they created new epochs marching to “Onward Christian Soldier,”
      https://youtu.be/aO94k89ONHA?si=yWD6n0QinZ9cN9cQ

      or when going down, using the words of St Paul, as Col Durnford said to his escaping Sergeant to tell the Bishop, “The race is complete,” before his last stand.
      https://youtu.be/mP04Khu07Y4?si=YFPvLaOHqFElRk8U

      or fighting and singing a last stand to the “The Men of Harlach,”
      https://youtu.be/XSEU5zHgcTc?si=UIwvtQ37jhkD31SA

      So, the idea that TradProts are inherently anti-White is ridiculous.

      When we think of the past of expanding European civilization we rarely think of TradCaths. Indeed, despite the manifold heroism of them such as the great Spanish explorers and conquistadors, the TradCaths are wrong in all sort of ways. Not because they are anti-White, some are very Pro-White, but because doctrinally, they are full or Divibr errors and thus weak in the long term. Thats why British Protestant settler dominions remain intact unlike the mud dominions of France, Italy, and Spain. If we hope to keep it that way, the last thing we need, is Papists, TradCath or not, in charge.

  7. @ Joe Miner ” I think we hold the fort better than any other as far as American Christendom goes ” agreed sir, we do, thee uninfilterated Baptist, stand tall for the lord, we teach and preach Christ Crucified, first and foremost.

  8. Was the Pope Catholic ?

    This last worst ever Revolutionary Theology , pro Homosexual everything , indifferent to mass Muslim invasions conquest of Christ Europe Pope Francis ….

    I d say no – he was not Catholic .

    He might as well have been taken straight out of Jean Respaul s “ Camp of the Saints “ where the last ha White Pope was also a South American Liberation theology pro Indian and North African migrant invasion Rolling Stone magazine new age Pope flying around in his private Pope Grey Lear Jet .

    Judeo Christianity goes brown 3 rd world

  9. ‘I’m not going to dance on his grave.’

    They’ll just replace him with another know-it-all crackpot.

    All the saints and popes of all time have never done as much good as a single Pasteur, Jenner or Koch.

    F theological bafflegab.

    • > They’ll just replace him with another know-it-all crackpot.

      Yes. The vast (overwhelming) majority of Cardinals young enough to vote for the next clown to lead the circus were all annointed by Fwanny. Lavender mafia and woketardism on steroids. RCC delenda est.

  10. Catholics do not believve that the pope is infallible in general. Only when he speaks “ex cathedra” (from the chair) as a definitive matter of faith meant for the whole church. Such statements are extremely rare and can not contradict church doctrine. Pope Francis nevv3r spoke ex cathedra. In fact, it has only happened 1 time since 1870 when the doctrine of infalliblity was set out – that was in 1950 when the traditional and widely accepted doctrine of the assumption of Mary was stated as dogma.

    So, while traditionalist Catholics did not care for some of the ambiguous remarks he made and Left-leaning policies that Pope Francis seemed to promote at times, it is important to remember that he did not change church dogma. He did not have the power to do that.

    One final note, unfortunately, the next pope is likely to come from the more liberal branch of the church as well because a large majority of the Cardinals who will vote for the next pope were appointed by Pope Francis. So, while the church in the US has been moving steadily to the Right over the past 40 years and young liberal priests are almost entirely a thing of the past, the global leadership of the Catholic Church has not yet caught up with the church in the US. It will happen in time though.

  11. The first Darwinist Pope was John Paul II. I remember the communists gushing over him when he became Pope, in 1982. My Professor of Literature that year, Prof. Berry, a Phd from Harvard, explained to us in detail about the new Pope, that he was different from all of his predecessors. The Darwinism was only part of it. He had been a lifelong communist, and headed a violent Antifa gang in Poland. He was wanted for murder in Germany, even after the war. PBS was running long segments gushing over the New Catholic Church.

    The traditional catholics were also gushing, celebrating the new Pope, John Paul II. They had been told he was one of them. Opus Dei and all that. If they had understood what Opus Dei actually stood for they would have had a different opinion.

    Shortly thereafter a greatly annoyed Catholic Director of the CIA (Casey) put out a hit on that Pope, using a Turkic CIA asset as the assassin, but the dumb Turk messed it up and the Pope survived. But the Pope learned his lesson. He stopped trying to undermine the fall of the Soviet Bloc, and the CIA was then able to proceed from victory to victory in Poland.

    The second Darwinist Pope was the actual leader of the Second Vatican Council, Ratzinger. He took the name Benedict. In his last days as Pope the Americans cut the Vatican Bank off from SWIFT. He was forced to resign. To this day I do not understand what was going on, except that it was the Pentagon that was so hot to get rid of him.

    For some unknown reason Traditional Catholics seem to consider Benedict a good guy, a hero. But he wasn’t one of them. He was their worst enemy.

    The third Darwinist Pope was this raging homosexual that just died. The less said about him the better.

    Father Toon, a very excellent Anglican Priest, told me in 1994 that the Catholics have all the same problems as the Anglicans, and ut will become more visible over time. He seems to have been right, as he was about all things. Father Toon also told me our root problem is that we have seperated sex from reproduction. Meditate on that.

    The only Cardinal I know personally is Tagle, from the Philippines. In his sermons he has spoken of ” Darkest Europe”. He talks a good game. He can fool you. But he equates Christianity and everything holy with free migration. So I hate him greatly. If Tagle becomes Pope that is what you will get.

    We Lutherans know the Pope as the Man Of Sin.

    • “Darwinist pope”?

      Are you saying that we are better off ignoring what we have learned about the world and pretending that the first part of Gensis is meant to be taken literally? You believe in a literal talking snake and creation of the universe in 6 days? Most Catholics believe that to be inspired but symbolic language. YEC drives more good people away from the faith than anything else I know of. When people raised in such thinking get older and learn about light traveling from distant stars for millions of years, for example, they tend to throw out their entire faith if it depends on accepting the obvious falsehood of a 6,000 year old planet.

      • @R.Rhett “millions of years.” Says who? The “scientists?” Yes, we independent Southern Baptists and many other Protestants believe the scripture is literal because it is. You are the problem. You sow confusion. The catholic religion is the whore of Babylon. Your article did little to prove otherwise. David Daniels has several books worth reading. I pray you repent and see the light.

      • Not really. While not as obvious an apostate as High-Fellatin’ Fwanny the Satanist, Benedict never repudiated Vatican II, which is apostasy. Neither did JP II. The German Benedict was one of the chief shepherds to ensure its ratification during the papacy of the poofter Paul VI. So called trads who fail to repudiate Vatican II are not trads at all. Catholicism has been in freefall ever since Vatican II was ratified in 1965. It was in serious trouble before that due to failure to deal with the Lavender Mafia – which spread like a cancer throughout Europe and Latin America. The Jesuit order in particular seem to be the epicenter of the LM. That’s why Jesuits were hanged on the spot if caught in the Russian Empire. If one thinks Vatican II was just about allowing the mass to be conducted in the vernacular language rather than Latin – they are not tall enough for the ride. In simplistic terms, Vatican II basically declared there is a back-door to salvation for Talmudists and Muslims – who reject Christ.

  12. Archbishop Viganò is too old to be the first American Pope, but he would have been their best option otherwise. He is as based as a Catholic can be in the 21st century.

    If course, Mel Gibson would genuinely be the best possible Pope that the RCC could ever hope for, but not being a Cardinal, he is out of the running.

    Unfortunately, Christian still do not comprehend that we are not going to pray our way out of White replacement and dispossession, as we are not going to vote our way out of those two ongoing predicaments.

    • Unfortunately, Wignats fail to understand that we are never going to fight our way out of this predicament, and we are certainly never going to cargo cult out way out of it either. Awareness of the moral rights of White ethnic groups to honor their own and continue their bloodlines, traditions and heritages must be spread far and wide before any political traction can be made. This, of course, can only be accomplished with the blessing of Almighty God.
      There has never, and will never, be some polyglot “White” country, especially not an Atheist one. Even NS Germany was a system designed specifically for the German Volk, and impossible to export to other Whites abroad.
      Can you imagine the fundamentally independent, clannish, decentralized Scots-Irish under the yolk of the efficiency-minded, mechanized and hierarchical Germans?
      What a joke. They’re not even *close* to the same people.

  13. The fact that Alex Soros mourns the death of anti& Pope Francis is all anyone needs to know about that deceased jesuit.

  14. Catholic mystics believe his replacement will be the last Pope after which the Second Coming will come. They also believe Rome will be totally destroyed right before the Second Coming.

  15. “I’m also not going to sit here and claim that modern Lutheran leaders are any better. I have explained many times here that sadly our leaders are just as cucked as the Catholics.

    Note: As Lutherans, we don’t have to think of Matt Harrison as the Holy Father. We don’t have to pretend that he is infallible or the Vicar of Christ on earth.”

    As a Baptist whose church isn’t a part of any formal association, I don’t have to make excuses for anybody…other than maybe my pastor watching too much OAN, haha.

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