At Majority Rights, friedrich braun has outlined his new stance on the Jewish Question, which is a 180 degree turn from his old material at The Civic Platform. Needless to say, I disagree with a number of his points:
1.) friedrich says that only a “Right” friendly to Israel and the Jewish community can succeed in the political arena.
In the United States, the “Right” has been defined by the philo-Semitic conservative movement since the 1960s. It has had a lot of electoral success … but so what? White Americans are worse off in every single way, racially and culturally speaking, than my grandparent’s generation.
Voting for conservatives isn’t an option for the pro-White movement. We get absolutely nothing in return but the scorn of these people and the tireless promotion of Jewish and non-White interests at our expense. It is better to do nothing at all – retreat from the public sphere and enjoy the pleasures of private life – than to support conservatives.
2.) friedrich claims that anti-Semitism is a political loser.
I’m not so sure. I don’t think the American public cares nearly as much about “anti-Semitism” as the philo-Semites insist they do. David Duke won the majority of the White vote in Louisiana. In Alabama, the race-mixing Holocaust denier Larry Darby won 43% of the vote in the 2006 Democratic Party primary for Attorney General.
In the popular imagination, I live in the heart of the Bible Belt. Everyone around here is supposed to be uber philo-Semitic evangelical Christians. I know my peers fairly well and this couldn’t be more untrue. Most of them are either irreligious or outright atheists. None of them care about the Jews. They don’t have any opinion on the issue.
3.) The Right should put Jews in position of authority.
We already have the neocons in control of the conservative movement. A Right that puts Jews in a position of authority will never be anything more than a front group for Jewish interests.
4.) There are plenty of racialist and rightwing Jews with whom we can build alliances.
Name them. I don’t think all of them combined could fill more than half of an Applebee’s restaurant. What’s more, these racialist and rightwing Jews are more interested in “fighting anti-Semitism” than any other pro-White cause. Bringing them into White Nationalism is tantamount to creating just another ideological vehicle for the promotion of Jewish interests.
5.) White Nationalism hasn’t accomplished anything in the postwar era.
There is a good reason for that. After the demise of segregation, racially conscious Whites flocked into the aracial, philo-Semitic conservative movement where they became steadily deracialized. friedrich is advocating more of the same. It will produce exactly the same result.
6.) A friendly disposition towards Jewry will get us into the media and political area.
No, it won’t. It will get us about where Jared Taylor and American Renaissance are now. Jews will persist in their hostility to us. They will continue to relentlessly push their interests at our expense. We won’t get anything in return for abandoning our hostility to the Jews.
7.) We must counter the Nazi image.
I disagree. We should wait for the “Greatest Generation” to die off and the Boomers to retire. Gen X’ers and Gen Y’ers don’t care nearly as much about the Jews.
8.) Jews will bring vast resources into our movement.
No, they won’t.
9.) Jews are moving to the Right.
No, they haven’t. See Steve Sailer’s recent column about American Jewry.
10.) We should emulate Vlaams Belang, the BNP, the Front National, and Geert Wilders.
Why? They haven’t accomplished anything. Muslims continue to settle to Belgium, the Netherlands, France, and the UK. The only thing they have accomplished is watering down the “Right”; thereby pushing the next generation further to the “Left.”
11.) It is time to adopt a winning strategy.
The conservative movement has already adopted the philo-Semitic strategy. Its existence is arguably the single biggest cause of White racial decline since the 1960s.
I will just delete the cat fight between the two of you.
In hindsight, I remember Jim Giles from many years ago on VNN Forum. He had the yahoo, unstable, tough guy personality back then. I had completely forgotten about it until this morning.
He’s the cat, I’m the dog. 🙂
Looking forward to your posts on your new perspective.
Re:#209 – Curious Vojtech – “As for boring WP, your “hope” was identified millennia ago as an enormous sin. Hasn’t changed.”
Reading back over the thread, I just noticed that you insulted me CJ by referring to my posts as “boring.” To that I say fuck you and “says who?” You? If we met in person and you said something like that I’d pound you in to the dust for that petty insult alone, but only after I out-debated you man-to-man and subsequently sent you in to a mental tizzy, thereby softening you up first, weakening your defenses, putting you in your place.
In a semi-hopeless situation as now reigns in the USA, the UK, and elsewhere in the Western world, hope (yes, hope) plus faith for a better world and a better future is about all we have left now. If hope is a “sin” (according to who?) then we are already as good as dead and defeated; but nope, we aren’t dead or truly checkmated yet and hope is definitely not a so-called “sin” so there is indeed still hope (it springs eternal, you know). Use it or lose it, jackass.
Just an editorial note: Friedrich Braunsteinberg shall henceforth be referred to by me as “Judas Goat.”
– http://www.amazon.com/Judas-Goats-Infiltration-Subversion-Nationalist/dp/B000JKTH6Y
Re:#356 – “In hindsight, I remember Jim Giles from many years ago on VNN Forum. He had the yahoo, unstable, tough guy personality back then.”
Giles, far from being a ‘Yahoo’ of the Swiftian variety, has “gone native” or semi-feral you might say, hence his seemingly ever-compounding White Rage; his relocation to a backwoods Mississippi trailer, wherein he also has his menagerie, what he calls his “Giles Shire,” proves as such — he has lots and lots of time on his hands for pure reflection upon and study of the current Western racial situation, and he is clearly very disturbed and outraged at what he is uncovering and as a result is thus over-reacting in public, having a public meltdown of sorts, losing his composure. That is my read on it anyhow — he could indeed be a FED-sponsored Neo-Turner radio DJ, I’m not discounting that possibility.
To an extent, Giles has a definite point though: we modern Whites, who are so thoroughly domesticated via too much easy livin in these massively Jew-manipulated and overly ‘safe’ and ‘orderly’ urban and/or suburban environments, could definitely stand to be more “feral” and a lot less “domesticated.” I also agree wholeheartedly with him about “sissified intellectuals” too, although I certainly don’t agree that he ought to be attacking potential allies like us on this website as such — he has certainly gone a bit off the deep-end lately with all of the personal attacks and berserk vulgarity, I’m not denying that.
We here on this free-speech forum are not “effeminate intellectuals,” we are Western teachers and also Western students, both of those simultaneously; we here on Occidental Dissent are correctly identifying major Western problems and also seeking solutions, via debate and reason, to the current Western racial predicament.
#10 Zog
Why do these two Judeophile idiots “Friedrich” Braun and “Jew Advocate” keep posting here on this blog?
Nobody cares what they think.
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Fred Brown needs help. I have effective, quick medicine to alleviate his suffering.
” Crypto Jew Advocate” speaks rationally and squarely. His presence and his thoughts are of value. I welcome him.
#21 Donald
The NDP is not the fringe party the media would have you believe.
They are the most advanced intellectually, organizationally, motivated, united and oriented nationalist party that exists, fighting far greater odds and a far more reactive public media Europe wide, than any other nationalist party, and with perfect confidence in victory. There is a clear delineation between the intellectual leadership and the brawlers, each is respected, no one is ostracized or shunned. Even the crazies are respected for their fighting spirit. The organization and spirit of unity is unparalleled.
Friendship with the NDP Is when I realized that Nationalism is an inevitable and historical force. The International Jews, the bureaucrats and the left do not have the resources to deal with something like the NDP. All other nationalist parties are dilettantes and erratic entities. To enter the political forum in Europe requires compromises that completely break the spirit of the movement as a political idea, the compromised are well paid, and the cycle of decay begins again.
The NDP is a ‘force majure’ and will be party that breaks the deadlock. Plans have been made that are intelligent and prescient. This is something I would like to write about….however with the NDP discretion is a blood oath, a real blood oath. They take these things seriously. They are no traitors or infiltrators. The security forces of Europe and Israel are always present. At some point I would like to share how the NDP organizes, as lately in Germany the leftist political media has complained to the media about it, it’s been in newspapers and magazines and it is no longer secret, In fact these disclosures have been to the credit of the NDP. They are winning with deep effects all across Europe. The NDP is much more than a party of cranks. They have earned the respect and hopes of the elderly
#81 Crypto Aryan
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You say”
2. If every Jew was vaporized tomorrow, you would still have a White ruling class that wants to bring in cheap third world labor. And it would still be considered immoral to say that America must remain majority white.
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Sorry, think about it……… if every Jew vaporized tomorrow….they could not buy each and every political canidate, senate seat, 90% of congress…..from the dog catcher up to the President – a fact that everybody in the world knows about, even the Jews. (please don’t ask for proof – read a newspaper)
If every Jew vaporized tommorow = SERIOUSLY- the trouble would be over, think about – actual representative democracy. officials who earn office through our votes, not campaign funds contributed by Jewish Lobby groups – peace in the middle east as Israel returns to it’s 67 borders….and so on. Our troubles would be over. Seriously, i do not have to write and essay here. Think about it, your an intelligent person
Crypto, Iceman, Brown and all
When it comes to the discourse on race, overall Jews have been a negative, though as I wrote earlier. Be careful not to throw me in the anti-Jew camp, because outside of acknowledging their political mistake of promoting race denial and allying with Blacks, I don’t hate them.
I must stress that as I wrote elsewhere, when Jews say “Jump,” everyone else does not have to say “How high.” It is the responsibility of collective society to resist liberalism. Jews are 2% of the population.
Iceman
The jews control society through money and media. Effectively they have the power to ruin anyone who doesn’t play ball, because they own the ballpark, the parkinglot, and the ball. Gentiles can play, but by their rules. They know it, and they don’t care if we know it.
I understand why you resist this, but it is an argument with yourself…..there is no JQ – Jewish Question. That is what you and everyone on this board must realize. There is knowledge of the Jews, which is inescapable, and solutions, which are obvious.
Grimoire #363: Grimoire’s response to Donald is very encouraging. That’s going to put me in a good mood the rest of the afternoon at least. Thank you for taking the time to post that excellent news.
“I must stress that as I wrote elsewhere, when Jews say “Jump,” everyone else does not have to say “How high.” It is the responsibility of collective society to resist liberalism. Jews are 2% of the population.”
YES, YES, YES!!! Someone who gets it. Stop fantasizing about hateful albeit impossible acts, like depriving American Jews of their life, liberty or property. Take your country back.
Grimoire: “The jews control society through money and media.”
Nobody said it was going to be easy. The same problem exists in Europe, even though Jews don’t control their media to the same extent. The main obstacle I believe has to do with the education that elites. The morality of white people being allowed to preserve their majority status is an utterly alien idea to them. Also, white people did some bad things in the name of those same moral impulses. Examine this, come to terms with it, and move on. A good first principle: don’t hurt the innocent.
Grimoire: “every Jew vaporized tommorow = SERIOUSLY- the trouble would be over”
Rich whites wouldn’t be clamoring for cheap maids and janitors and gardeners? Adam Smith extolling the benefits of free trade and explaining that labor is just another commodity wouldn’t sound compelling to Aryan ears? C’mon.
Jews latched onto the Enlightenment’s universalistic impulses and developed them. They didn’t invent them, and if the Jews ceased to exist, those same impulses would remain.
#367 Crypto-Aryan
“YES, YES, YES!!! Someone who gets it. Stop fantasizing about hateful albeit impossible acts, like depriving American Jews of their life, liberty or property. Take your country back.”
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That may be possible. Improbable, but possible. This would be the highest goal. The triumph of man over his own nature. It would change the course of history from thereafter.
I thought about this statement but I don’t think it’s true. Let’s say a Marxist leader took over America, and in the name of Marxism, kicked out Jews for being too ethnocentric. America would not turn white nationalist because of this. Let’s say a Catholic leader did the same thing. America would not turn white nationalist because of this. The only thing that will change the minds of people is to change their minds. Detaching them from Jews doesn’t do it.
ARE YOU GUYS STUPID?
This Frederich Braun “person” is obviously Jewish.
I have seen the way he acts.
He lures you in by agreeing with us about the Jews and then he says,
“it’s not really the Jews only stupid people say that.”
I don’t belieive every crypto-Jew story I hear but much of it is true.
When it comes to “racist” or political forums on the internet Jews are everywhere.
The number of Jewish posters on white nationalist or anti-Jewish forums is mindboggling.
If you are still unaware of this at this point than you are stupid.
If a person is defending Jews in anyway that makes them as bad as a Jew.
Please stop denying the facts, Jews are the root of most of the political problems in the world and the only way to solve the Jewish problem is to kill them and anyone who supports them.