Larry’s Folly

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Larry Auster writes:

“As you should know, I’m not going to post a comment supporting the Southern secessionists, whose grounds for secession were: the lawful election to the presidency of a man they didn’t like, and the lawful act of the United States in maintaining control of a federal fort.”

The most eloquent case for Southern secession was made by the Confederate commissioners who were selected as “apostles of disunion” to the other Southern states:

Stephen F. Hale:

“If the policy of the Republicans is carried out, according to the programme indicated by the leaders of the party, and the South submits, degradation and ruin must overwhelm alike all classes of citizens in the Southern States. The slave-holder and non-slave-holder must ultimately share the same fate — all be degraded to a position of equality with free negroes, stand side by side with them at the polls, and fraternize in all the social relations of life; or else there will be an eternal war of races, desolating the land with blood, and utterly wasting and destroying all the resources of the country.

Who can look upon such a picture without a shudder? What Southern man, be he slave-holder or non-slave-holder, can without indignation and horror contemplate the triumph of negro equality, and see his own sons and daughters, in the not distant future, associating with free negroes upon terms of political and social equality, and the white man stripped, by the Heaven-daring hand of fanaticism of that title to superiority over the black race which God himself has bestowed?”

William L. Harris:

“To-day our government stands totally revolutionized in its main features, and our Constitution broken and overturned. The new administration, which has effected this revolution, only awaits the 4th of March for the inauguration of the new government, the new principles, and the new policy, upon the success of which they have proclaimed freedom to the slave, but eternal degradation for you and for us. …

Our fathers made this a government for the white man, rejecting the negro, as an ignorant, inferior, barbarian race, incapable of self-government, and not, therefore, entitled to be associated with the white man upon terms of civil, political, or social equality.

This new administration comes into power, under the solemn pledge to overturn and strike down this great feature of our Union, without which it would never have been formed, and to substitute in its stead their new theory of the universal equality of the black and white races. …

Sink or swim, live or die, survive or perish, the part of Mississippi is chosen, she will never submit to the principles and policy of this Black Republican Administration.

She had rather see the last of her race, men, women and children, immolated in one common funeral pile [pyre], than see them subjected to the degradation of civil, political and social equality with the negro race.”

John H. Reagan:

“And now you tender us the inhuman alternative of unconditional submission to Republican rule on abolition principles, and ultimately to free negro equality and a government of mongrels or a war of races on the one hand, and on the other secession and a bloody and desolating civil war, waged in an attempt by the Federal Government to reduce us to submission to these wrongs. …

… The irrepressible conflict propounded by abolitionism has produced now its legitimate fruits– disunion. Free negro equality, which is its ultimate object, would make us re-enact the scenes of revolution and anarchy we have so long witnessed and deplored in the American governments to the south of us.”

“The Southern Secession was a bad cause, one of the worst that ever was, as Grant put it in his memoirs. Anyone who tries to advance or justify our opposition to a lawless federal government by linking it to that bad cause, is tainting and besmirching our just and righteous cause.”

The Confederate cause was identical with the preservation of slavery, white supremacy, and state sovereignty. The Union cause was identical with abolition, negro equality, and consolidated government.

Note: BTW, the Grant administration was one of the most corrupt governments in all of American history. Barack Hussein Obama is the legitimate heir of Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses S. Grant. He is a sectional president like Lincoln who won the same states.

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50 Comments

  1. Now, after 50-60 years of massive immigration into the US; Now that we are surrounded by so many thirld -world foreigners; Still, there’re whites who are agitating us onto internecine war, while we’re now surrounded by thirld- world foreigners who would love it if we white Americans would make war against one another.

  2. “I don’t think (. . .) blacks are animals”

    Of course you’re mistaken, Whites are animals too.
    Humans are distinguished from lesser animals by our self-awareness, rationality, and suppression/sublimation of our basest impulses: making civilization and all it entails possible.
    Negroes aren’t.
    Negro humanity derives from largescale social anthropomorphism.

  3. The men working in the South as farmers and fisherman, and all other able-bodied Southern men, will be called into the miltary : Right there, right off the bat, the South will not produce as much food as it now does. As it is, the South must bring in alot of food from outside the South to feed itself and in spite of the impressive numbers from the government figures.
    In the meantime, white Southern women are running to abortion clinics. Check out the figures at “Race Abortion Dixie”. Not good. Doesn’t bode well. Again, in the meantime, white Americans –south, north,east, and west– are surrounded by thirld world foreigners who would love to see us whites kill one another down. While we kill one another down, the foreigners gain more power in the USA. All over the US. Including the South. Another aspect never mentioned– all the able-bodied men in the US from the north, the midwest, and the west ,will be pressed into action and all will be fighting against the South. The US is not just North/South anymore. There doesn’t seem to be any consideration of this matter amongst those Southerners so gung-ho for war.
    The Southerners who want secession will be well advised to figure out a peaceful way to achieve it. Otherwise, all white Americans will lose. Especially Southerners.

  4. “The taxes that we paid to King George III were trivial compared to the ones that we pay today to Washington. The West Indian colonies paid the bulk of the taxes and were happy to quarter British troops.

    Unlike Washington, the Crown had expelled the French from North America and subdued the Indians on the frontier. We were simply asked to pay taxes in exchange for border security.”

    You need to understand the structure of the British Empire at that time. Each of the component parts was considered equal to the others with all of them owing allegiance to the British Crown. Thus Wales and Scotland were equal to South Carolina or New York in the theoretical structure of the empire. The problem was that in practice only some of the component nations were given representation in the British Parliament and thus the power to tax the other unrepresented nations. This would be like California and New York being the only states to elect representatives to Congress with the power to set tax law for all 50 states. This was why even such low tax rates angered the people in the American British nations. This is also the root of the phrase “all men created equal” in the Declaration of Independence. They were saying that they were equally British as those of the British nations back in Europe who got representation in Parliament.

  5. Then there’s the matter of the large negro population down South. The blacks will not be gung-ho in the least to support secession and a return to any kind of confederacy. Many will actively work against Southern secession; And work violently against it, too boot. The Southerners will have to fight the blacks in their midst while trying at the same time to fight uncle sam’s army consisting of men from all over the rest of the US north, midwest, and the west.

  6. Basically other races are now projecting onto Negroes in a massive anthropomorphic error. Humans are perpetually incanting fragile dogmas to explain the “beautiful mysteries” of the ever-savage Negro. Whites are sadly the high priests of this false creed known in some quarters as “civil rights” where we are to atone for the supposed sin of slavery.

  7. Not warring isn’t exactly helping. A fight gives a fighting chance at least.

    Preserving this messy Individual Mandate doesnt have the same potential rallying cry as “liberty” or “freedom” once did.

    This time around I think the Breakaway will be similar to a partition or plebicite. Scotland is almost out the door for example.

  8. BTW, there is an even bigger difference between now and last time, in that last time the North was almost completely unscathed by the war, whereas now Boston, DC, New York City, or Chicago is one good missile strike or air strike away.

  9. The taxes were paid to soldiers who garrisoned fortressses on the frontier.

    However the wider point is that the Revolutionaries were simply out to fill their pockets.

    Strickland misses the point of course. The irony of the Tea Party today is that they are interested in antiracist antimmigration rhetoric. It’s quite a remarkable turn around to actually begin to worry about border security now–of all times.

  10. the last time would have been peaceful if we had our way but you damnyankees wouldn’t stand for it. Last time y’all waged war on our women and kids and we did not do the same. Lee felt it was wrong to invade the north and only relented to do it for political reasons/ lack of hope.

    Next time, I’ll make it a point to do to you what y’all did to us

  11. @Hunter Wallace
    What you say is true about the northern and midwest ( and also western cities) being vulnerable to missile attack. So are Southern cities. Southern cities are just as vulnerable. Another good reason for white Americans to refrain from going to war against one another. It would just encourage our overseas enemies to attack the US. We would be at our weakest while fighting one another. Russia and China would love it if there was to be internecine war in the US. We’d all be toast. South, north, east, and west.

  12. If the South is invaded by the U.S. military, then our cities are already vulnerable to attack, as they were last time. The difference is that this time your cities would also be vulnerable to attack and New York City, Boston, and Washington would cease to exist.

  13. To Stonelifter,
    The half of the black population in the US that remains down south is still a very considerable number. The blacks will actively undermine the efforts of white Southerners to secede. Many will be actively violent. Others will subtlety undermine the war effort from within.

  14. @Hunter Wallace
    Yes. Of course. The point is , however, All white Americans will lose if we are to be invaded by an outside military force while simultanously indulging in internecine war. Scenario: The Russians decide to attack while white Americans are fighting amongst ourselves : They will attack both Northern and Southern cities, as they please. As they see fit. The Southerners have no guarantee that a foreign military invader will spare Southern cities (or Southern farmland).
    If the Russians invade and win victory in the North and/or the Midwest, for example, the Sotherners then will have to go up against the Russians. It’s a losing proposition for the whole country — including the South– if internecine war were to break out in the States.

  15. A fractured America needs two things only to prevent the bloody borders that plague fallen federations: mutual defense treaties and renegotiation of NAFTA. Those are two strong feet for the continent to stand on and proceed as free amicable nations.

  16. Southerners make great soldiers on the battlefield. Still, you all my want to consider learning some basic strategy to go along with your “prowess”.
    @ John
    You won’t be able to “push” the blacks over the border without expending alot of time and alot of very valuable resources. Resources your going to very much need to fight uncle sam’s invading miltary. A military, by the way, that includes : Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines. All will be bearing down with full- force-on you while you try to “push” the blacks over the borders.
    In the meantime, there will be many working behind the lines– south of the mason/dixon –to undermine the Southern war effort. Both blacks and those Southern whites who are not so keen on separation.

  17. Do as “ya’ all” please. I’m in Northern California. I’ll be hiking amongst the Redwoods.
    ( as long as the chinese don’t attack our western flank)
    fortune cookie say : ” whitey have no strategy very smart”
    fortune cookie say: ” russkies have plenty intercontinental missiles”
    P.S.– The Russians were able to keep all of Eastern Europe under the Russian Boot for 40 years. They’re powerful enough not to underestimate : Do so at your own risk.

  18. Do you really think a comtemporary New Yorker or Jersey resident has the stomach for it?

    19th European and Americans were the embodiment of the hero.
    Today’s Yankee probably would disagree with the sentiment of partition.

  19. Seems to me, abortion is a greater threat to the white race right now more than anything else. The statistics at “Race Abortion Dixie” are enough to make one cry in despair.
    I live half a block from an abortion clinic here in Sacramento. From what I see everytime I drive by: About 70% of the women going in and out of the clinic are white women. I try as much as I can not to drive past the clinic if i can avoid it. Sometimes I have to in order to access the main road near me that goes to the main highway through town. Going to war at a time so many white women are getting abortions is pure madness. War would only lead to more dead whites– more than are getting aborted even. Between internecine war and abortion , white Americans will go extinct even faster then we already are.

  20. “Next time, I’ll make it a point to do to you what y’all did to us.”

    Lee had no idea of the depth of evil he was up against. Perhaps it was best that way, because had he stooped to our level he may have sacrificed the honor the South retains to this day.

    Y’all are too nice. Don’t stoop to our level.

  21. @Hunter Wallace
    Do as you all please. It’s your Southland. You’re greatly fooling yourselves, though, if you think the Russians and/or the Chinese are going to go easier on the South than yankee uncle sam. Uncle Sam is communist “lite”. The Russians* and/or the Chinese are communist “heavy”. Very much so.
    * The Russians are still commies. You’ll find that out when/if they invade.

  22. Too many niggers down south and zero White leadership.
    There would be too many fronts to fight, plus you would be sealed in by the north and Mexico would work with the north as well to seal you in from the south.
    It will never happen, the south would be crushed, again.

  23. Not necessarily, because all whites who are against fedgov tyranny would be on their side.

  24. I wouldn’t, not with southerners like stonelifter and others threating White women and children who live up north.
    No, you would alienate and make enemies of every White man north of the mason dixon line. And hence be crushed again.

  25. ” the wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it’s going”

  26. Geez lifter, Charlotte is a banking city only because out of state banks set up there. it’s not a southern thing at all.

    As for Auster, he WANTS to salvage the system because it’s the only system where he’s safe to spew his bile. Once the system is gone, I suspect Auster and his ilk will be doing the age old Jewish shuffle and changing names again. Not to worry though, the boy will ain’t long for this world anyway.

  27. What is this with Russia? The Russians are very much not Communists.

    Honestly, you stupid Jewish bastards will never let them go will you?

  28. Stone, the midwest has been de-yankeefying for years. The current economic climate and race issues will accelerate the process. And when you look at the near west, Montana, Dakotas, Nebraska, you get even more of an anti-Washington sentiment.

  29. Yeah Joe, the Russians, who can barely put down a rebellion in Chechnya and the Chinese, who are just now figuring out how to build an aircraft carrier, are going to break out the can of whoopass on us. Keep it up though, China might have a surprise for your proxy military’s invasion of Iran. Let’s hope so.

  30. Yeah, the Russians are a lot of things today, but communists they are not. I like the way the Russian Orthodox Church continues to gain power. That’s a good sign for their race.

  31. I wouldn’t either considering that so many here seem to like the idea of the Russians and/or the Chinese launching missiles on Northern and Midwest cities. As if the white Americans today are responsible for happened 145 years ago. As if the yankees started the war of 1861. The Southerners fired the first shots of the war. The Southerners wanted war. They started it. They lost. Sometimes happens when you pick a fight. Now some Southerners want to see Northern cities attacked and invaded by foreign military forces– all this because you lost a war 145 years ago. I’m doing my best to give Southerners my support — but sometimes “you all” expect too much — especially considering you all want to see Northern and Midwest cities reduced to ashes. It’s not my fault Sherman marched through Georgia and South Carolina. That was a long time ago. Get over it. If not, if you Southerners start another war, you will be crushed again. I don’t want to see that– that’s why I’m advocating for peace. But, if you all want war : Go for it ! Then just deal with the consequences of war like men — not like little cry babies ; Still crying over a war you all started 150 years ago and then proceeded to lose.

  32. Hey, let’s not denigrate peoples who have a problem getting Muslim issues under control. We certainly can’t do it.

    Muslims are freakin’ nuts.

  33. “Omnibus Locis Fit Caedes”
    Translation : Let there be slaughter everywhere.
    ( from Julius Caesar’s, “The Gallic Wars” )

  34. Many southerners on this site have a shortman’s like syndrome.
    They see northern Whites as the enemy because over a hundred years ago they had their collective asses kicked by other northern Whites.

    Reality is most Northern Whites don’t even care, most arrived long after the war and has nothing to do with it.

  35. Umm … you are here cheering on Uncle Sam and his plan to invade our cities, but we are supposed to be aghast at the idea that Russia and China might attack you from behind?

    Like I said above, the only government that has ever invaded us to promote negro equality is Washington. That’s the only government that poses a real threat to us. The Chinese don’t care if Israel deports blacks.

  36. HW, they have ruined our cities as well. That doesn’t mean I should call for killing of Whites that have bo involvement in Govt.
    This is getting ridiculous here.
    The root of the problem now is not northern Whites. It’s people like your jewish buddy, auster.
    Why are you not calling for the death of all jews? That’s where you need to be focused on. Thier total sway over the govt. and their subversive anti White media.

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