I’m skeptical it is really this bad.
It does reflect an underlying reality though. I was also left cold by Blompf’s 2020 campaign message about “socialism.” I’ve never been a fan of neoliberalism.
“According to YouGov, which conducted the poll, capitalism, amid a widening divide between the haves and have-nots, has plunged in popularity from a year ago, with one out of every two millennials — ages 23 to 38 — supporting it.
Meanwhile, 36% of millennials polled say that they approve of communism, which is up significantly from 28% in 2018. …”
Whew.
This is unsustainable.
Either way, Charlie Kirk-style cuckservatism is doomed.
The poll didn’t ask whether Millennials were populists. I’m not opposed to private property or the market. I don’t believe the government should own the means of production. I think the wealthy should pay more in taxes and that both trade and the economy should be regulated to promote the general welfare. I support Universal Basic Income. I also believe that capitalism should be kept on a very short leash for both cultural and economic reasons.
The GOP threw people like us under the bus though who like Tucker Carlson and raised up Charlie Kirk. So they will get Elizabeth Warren and AOC.
So begins the slide to Venezuelation.
I hope so. Most Jews have left Venezuela since the based, antisemitic Socialists took over.
You want to go hungry, have massive, no medical care ?
Arian, dear – if that is your criteria for Venezuelation – Murka is already there.
yes, I’m highly skeptical too. I just dont pay any attention to polls anymore. Everything is so politicized, and people lie to pollsters, half the population only uses cell phones so they dont get polled, and I just make a rule that any poll I hear about for anything, I just halve it. Its a totally pointless thing these days to poll anything. The whole world lies these days.
Psychologists have refined polling to a point they can get any answer they want. The structure , , sequence, intonation can all be used to manipulate the outcome..
It’s too easy to skew poll results, when desired.
I believe it.
For a while it seemed like i was swimming upstream, running against the current. when we split with thelyceum, you went to the right (after a short communitarian phase) and i went to the left.
But now I feel as if my ideals are no longer out of the normal. They’re still risky as far as employment goes, but a lot of people now feel the same way. I feel that sanders and warren are big wins for me.
If the term socialist was used it would be higher, and then there’s a number of people who will support socialism if you call it something else like restructured capitalism. Because a market driven by workers is not capitalism. If it was lenin and hu jintao would be capitalist. Lenin used worker driven markets. It was stalin who more pushed the command economy.
i do feel my views are getting more widespread, when I used to feel like I was in the shadows of the alt right.
We have a centrally controlled economy. We do not have free markets. The bank bailouts were the case in point.
On November 24, 2008, American Republican Representative Ron Paul (R–TX) wrote, “In bailing out failing companies, they are confiscating money from productive members of the economy and giving it to failing ones. By sustaining companies with obsolete or unsustainable business models, the government prevents their resources from being liquidated and made available to other companies that can put them to better, more productive use. An essential element of a healthy free market is that both success and failure must be permitted to happen when they are earned. But instead with a bailout, the rewards are reversed – the proceeds from successful entities are given to failing ones. How this is supposed to be good for our economy is beyond me…. It won’t work. It can’t work…. It is obvious to most Americans that we need to reject corporate cronyism, and allow the natural regulations and incentives of the free market to pick the winners and losers in our economy, not the whims of bureaucrats and politicians.”[61]
If you are not connected, you don’t have access to the patronage and credit system. Young people understand that something is wrong, that they are not standing to benefit from this economy. Communism is all they can think of as a remedy. It is just a banner.
It reminds me of the alt right going for Trump. You had Spencer and Anglin saying the economy doesn’t matter, yet they asked for donations.lol
The enemy of the people are the banks.
I’m surprised it is that low. The only non-boomers who hate Socialism are rich kids and Jews.
My family lived in the Lower East Side of New York during the Depression. To hell with capitalism.
That wasn’t capitalism. That was a (saboteur) named Eugene Meyer cutting the money supply 20% a year to cause massive suffering and foment a communist uprising in America.
Ok boomer
About 70% of young people are leftist at any given time. This is not news.
Of course, you have to remember that most of these polls are done by neoliberals so the term “socialism” spans just about any and all populist reforms as well. To them socialism is simply wanting a national healthcare system. Socialism to neoliberals is wanting a better deal for working people so under these terms their polls are meaningless.
Look, they have 100% rejected any populist reform – they will not budge on anything so they will get pure unrestrained socialism and I will not shed a tear for them.
We saw the measure of their resolve with Trump. He wins on populist reforms and then he and the GOP go on to create one of the most grotesque tax cuts for the wealthy in American history. Stock buy backs and crushing deficits are what the tax cuts bought us – there was zero investment in infrastructure or anything else that would have benefited the American worker in the long term.
They are bringing this shit on themselves.They are not listening.
Trump is the epitome of right-wing Boomer governship in the year 2019. All bluster and no action, completely unaware to the facts on the ground, making decisions like things will never change, viscerally hostile to those who disagree with him, and just counting down the minutes until he can retire and “say” he did something.
As Admiral Tuttle stated: “If we don’t change course we’ll end up where we’re headed!”
I think the only reason that white millennials have any attraction to the left is that the left supposedly cares about income redistribution. The rest of the bad stuff of the left that millennials claim their for, I don’t think they really like it, but since they want the left’s (supposed) income redistribution, they think they have to totey along on all the other stuff.
This. Very rarely is a concrete definition of socialism given. Most of these millennials are probably more in favor of something approaching national populism or Third Position, as they should be.
Meant as a reply to Ulfric.
You pretty much have to support some sort of multi-racialism to be a socialist, because while white voters are needed, I don’t think you can break over 50% with white voters. And so some non-white voters are also needed. Therefore your ideology has to have some room for a much-racial alliance using class as the common part of the alliance.
This doesn’t mean that I support reverse racism against Whites.
The question is how many of these millennials are White? Statistically, Non-Whites tend to vote socialist/communist the vast majority of the time, especially if they’re sucking the money out of Those evil White Devils.
The image labeled “Based U.S. median real household net worth, by age [in USD] (2016)” speaks volumes when coupled with the trends of irresponsible bailouts of banks, corporations, foreign aid and mass immigration while the majority under 54 of age are just barely getting by. How could any other outcome, besides a disgruntled population, be expected? People like Charlie Kirk are despicable, championing a failed ideology that does not function to make our people stronger but fosters a vassal mindset, to set us up for direct, debt, rule from (((Merchant Land))).
The second illustration “Americans 18-29…” is interesting. Big media, big finance and big tech are far less trusted than the local police, college administration and military. It ties back to the previous graph quite well, people do not trust the establishment that controls them via media, finance or technology.
I sincerely hope that an alternative to big finance/globalist capitalism/Cultural Marxism is found, a future that we can look forward to instead of dread. Most people don’t want a Plutocracy/Oligarchy nor a Totalitarian State, most want a society where they, their children and neighbors may have hope, fair business, positive progress and honor, not lies and greed.
I can’t blame young people for thinking Socialism will help them. They see their own future as impoverished and hopeless. They see figures in the media growing very, very rich, and they see access to improving their own lives as drying up. Unless one is connected to the (((right people))), young Americans are forced to compete, at a deliberate disadvantage, to hordes of foreigners who are given PREFERENTIAL treatment by “The Government” aka (((ZOG))). They perceive socialism as a “get out of a lifetime of hopeless slavery” card. How can I blame anyone for thinking socialism will help them? The problem is, ZOG is still in charge.
People of all political stripes have a very fuzzy concept of what political ideologies even mean. The tragic element of all of this is the socialism can be a wonderful social structure – but it ONLY works under very specific conditions. Socialism works very ,very well, in small, racially homogenous societies. Places where there is accountability from the Government AND the citizens, Countries where the population is on the same page.
Socialism was a beautiful, magnificent structure under Hitler’s Reich. Hitler himself stated that German National Socialism WAS NOT FOR EXPORT. The NS social structure was particular to the German psyche. That is was for Germans. No other Race,
We all know that most Humans ONLY know the vicious, murderous lies told about the German Reich. The tragic thing is the German Reich had people of different Races, working for the Axis success, in their own countries. Hitler intended each country to find the path that works best for them. Of course, Hitler and the NS are the most demonized people EVER. Most Humans have no knowledge of the truth, and no ability to comprehend how much better their lives and countries would be had not America, England, and France lost Jew War II.
Socialism works very well in Dubai, fyi. Dubai is very tiny country, with a racially thus culturally homogenous population. The country is run very well by highly educated, intelligent Arab Muslims. They Government is very committed to creating a social/governmental structure that works for THEM. The government works for their population. Not against their population. Dubai is a very unique situation – but so was NS Germany.