Chick-fil-A and Southern Identity

NY Times food critic Kim Severson compares Chick-fil-A supporters to Confederate flag defenders


BRA’s lesbian Kim Severson is right: the Chick-fil-A protests are reminiscent of massive resistance during the Civil Rights Movement.

Homophobia is the new “racism.” Heterocentricity is the new “xenophobia.” The taboo against gay marriage is the new interracial marriage. Christians are the new intolerant White racists standing in the way of progress and social equality.

Isn’t all this being done in the name of “civil rights”? Southern segregationists always said that the Civil Rights Movement was virulently anti-Christian and was organized and led by communists.

Christians have clutched that viper to their chests for fifty years now in order to be part of the “mainstream” and now it has bitten them. You can’t surrender your White identity and expect to keep your Christian identity.

Update: Homosexual activists staged their promised Chick-fil-A “kiss in” this afternoon.

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  1. Aw come on, Joe. I’ve finished my sandwich and I’m ready for my history lesson. Don’t skip out on me now.

  2. The biggest mistake the South ever made was neither slavery nor secession.
    It was making common cause with these Yankee fuckwits against the Crown.

    The history of Yankeedom is rife with stupidity of the first magnitude. Two examples.

    It is stupid to elevate negro savages to a position of equality with whites.
    It is stupid to elevate sterile unions (homosexual) to a position of equality with fruitful ones (heterosexual).

    Wiping Massachusetts off the face of the earth would be the greatest blessing anyone could bestow upon humanity. Degenerate Yankees are the greatest curse humanity has ever known. Worse than Jews, even.

    Deo Vindice

  3. Apuleius, August 3, 2012 at 10:52 pm: The founding of a “nation” on a “bit of paper” is a prime piece of Enlightenment absurdity. It is truly a fiat nation. After the government was hijacked in 1860 by Yankee moneyed interests, the inevitable downward trajectory began in earnest.

    This is the correct view. Add in Joe’s observations about Freemasonry and you approach the root of the problem.

    Bill Yancey, August 3, 2012 at 10:53 pm: [Divorce, remarriage, fornication] have happened throughout history but no regime ever put homosexual marriage on a legal par with heterosexual marriage. Until now.

    Yes, because all three were forbidden by the Catholic Church and repressed by the Crown as contrary to the well-being of the family, which is the fundamental unit of society. Come the “reformation” and the “enlightenment”, the individual was “liberated” from the dogmas of the Church and the social structures enforced by the Crown. The “liberated” individual replaced the family as the basic unit of society; the politics of individual liberty made every man his own king, and the cult of individual interpretation made every man his own pope.

    With results we see.

    Divorce, remarriage, cohabitation, and birth control were taboo topics in this country until the 1960s. One couldn’t even say the word “divorce” on TV until late in the Nexon administration. The normalization of these things in the minds of Christians — a normalization justified in the name of religious and individual freedom — brought us to this day.

  4. All right Joe, I read HW’s post. Connect the dots for me. What does the Golden Circle have to do with the CSS?

  5. Apuleius says:
    August 3, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    Wiping Massachusetts off the face of the earth would be the greatest blessing anyone could bestow upon humanity.

    It would be a lot cheaper to move all the negroes there instead of transporting them across the ocean. Two birds with one stone.

  6. The curious thing about the carribean is that it is an offshore banking haven today. The richer people there use the global system as a plantation. You assume that they lost control.

    They are the men who sold the world.

  7. @ Yancey
    My link !, Yancey, my link ! You didn’t read it, obviously. I will not connect any dots for you.
    Read the link, and then connect the dots yourself. I’m not an English tutor.

    Perhaps you and John can chip in together and hire yourselves an English language tutor. If you can find one who has the patience.

    Good luck with your comprehension. Do the best you can. No one is expecting any miracles.

  8. Thanks, Joe. Always glad to apply Occam’s razor to your puerile conspiracy theories and other assorted silly nonsense.

    Parve leves capiunt animos.

    Deo Vindice

  9. Robert Oculus III,

    I’m aware of the history you’re telling but you miss my point. Certainly your three things were considered more taboo at certain times than others doesn’t mean that those things haven’t always gone on and never did any regime equalize fag marriage with real marriage. So they can’t be blamed for it.

    Now you can say that current immorality has caused more people to accept it, but it has definitely been a deliberate, top down program.

  10. Now why would I be in the Vatican, J.I. Joe? I am not a Freemason. I am not a Jew. I am not running a pedophile ring or an embezzlement racket.

    The Roman Catholic faith and the Roman Catholic Church is being carried by Roman Catholics (laiety, priests and bishops) adhering to the faith in the sodalities removed the jurisdiction of Rome. The usurpers of the Church are currently in occupation of the Catholic City worldwide. It does not matter to me how long it takes to remove them and their ilk, but they will be removed.

    This is very similar to the Arian Crisis when the Arian bishops were in occupation of all the diosceses and the Church was outside its own infrastructure. This caper lasted about 400 years so I tend to think that it will be long haul.

  11. @John

    You still won’t answer my question. If America is as terminal as you say, and the UK has such a bright future, then why are you living here at all? Hypocrite. Could it be that you’re too much of a little cunt to stand up for your own country? Could it be that you’re completely full of shit, and JewK is further down the road to oblivion the America could ever be?

    Go home.

  12. @ Apuleius
    You’ve been gone for awhile, so it’s forgivable. You don’t know. We have a new rule here at “OD” now. One must translate* — into English, mind you– any foreign word or phrase, one uses in any commentary. I know everything sounds more impressive when said in Latin, still, one must be considerate of us lesser mortals.

    * consuetudo pro lege servatur [ Custom Is Held As law]

    We started a new custom since you’ve been gone. It’s now the law ; And we call the law : ” Consideration” .

    Deo Willing.

  13. Joe, if you can’t explain it and you won’t paste it, it must not be something serious. Why can’t you at least explain how the CSS operated before the CSA was formed. You obviously don’t have anything better to do and, unlike most veterans here, I’m actually willing to consider what point it is you’re trying to make. At the moment, anyway.

  14. @Apuleius

    I didn’t capitalize the word “law”. I didn’t want to scare you. It’s not really official, not really. You”ll just look inconsiderate to all the readers if you don’t translate. That’s all.

  15. peppermint said: ….. or the 1860s when a gay man was President.

    Come on, he was just a bundler, he did it to keep warm.

    Mighty said: HAC said is best:

    There is no such thing as a “gay person”. There is nothing gay about filthy and unsanitary sexual acts that spread loathsome diseases. The word homosexual is just a descriptive term used to describe unnatural sex acts, it does NOT describe the people who commit those acts. Those people are fags, queers, ect …

    That is a great statement. Who is HAC?

  16. @Yancey
    In New York, we have a saying : ” This guy’s ‘ busting my balls’ “. Just read the link, or not. Stop busting my balls.

    End of discussion.

  17. “Parve leves capiunt animos”

    If you check with your copy of Ars Amatoria I think that you will find that it is “Parva leves capiunt animas”.

  18. Joe,

    I suspected it but thought that even you might have something serious to say. Only you could waste a waste of time. But I didn’t listen to the others. I deserved it.

  19. I was just thinking of the root cause of this Chicken War: A silver spoon business boy who shares his father’s tendencies to toss a bunch of cash to SAVE-A-NIGGER foundations decided that he wanted to speak out about queer marriage. It shouldn’t have been such a big deal.

    The fact that such silly bullshit has become a major story has led me to believe that queer marriage will present the next great challenge to State’s Rights.

    As it now stands, many states still have laws against same sex marriage. Calipornia voters passed a measure through referendum that prohibited same sex marriage, but it was overturned by the state supreme court and the case will very likely end up before SCOTUS. When that happens, the matter will be decided based entirely upon the constitutionality of queers marrying queers and dykes marrying dykes. I predict that it will go exactly like the Obamacare decision. You will have four justices voting for the blue agenda and four justices voting for the red agenda and one justice doing his fucking job.

    That’s a shame. As it is right now, those opposed to queer rights can move to a straighter state and all of the queers can live in places where they aren’t expected to be lonesome closet queers.

    No matter how a SCOTUS decision goes on homo marriage, somebody will feel like they got screwed out of their rights.

    Let’s wait and see how many Chicken Warriors get out of their houses to protect State’s Rights when the time comes.

  20. @Lynda
    Looks like you’re giving Rudel Latin lessons. Good. Maybe he’ll learn something for a change.

    Yes. The situation today is very much like the Arain crisis. Yes. We’re in it for the long-haul. That’s for sure.

    Considering all the” papal Bulls …” you’re always repeating, I thought perhaps you lived in the Vatican.

  21. “Now you can say that current immorality has caused more people to accept it, but it has definitely been a deliberate, top down program.”

    Right on the mark. Much of the current immorality has been cultivated in order to weaken and destroy our civilization. In order to make room for the “new, better” civilization our enemies have as their objective.

    The “well being of the family” was not the original concern of laws against such immorality. This is an alien concept to most traditional societies, common sense and self evident truth were much more compelling rationale.

    The “disturbers of the peace” and the success of their agenda forced other rationale such as the “well being of the family” to be adopted by those interested in halting the disintegration of traditional order in society.

    Perversion is easily recognizable as such. That we must come up with complicated rationale to defend against it is only a sign of how far gone we already are. That many defend or “tolerate” perversion in the name of “social justice” is perversion of logic in support of the perverse.

    Most people are just ignorant dupes of the truly malicious who are behind these things. Malice is the prime motivation behind such “changes.” Malice directed at everything beautiful, intelligent, decent, and good.

    Deo Vindice

  22. Apuleius has the correct view. See, Apuleius. You’re quite capable of speaking English fine. So, I know you’re quite capable of translating your Latin phrases into English as well.

    In the meantime, Apuleius has the correct view, at least in the above post.

  23. Though being an “innocent dupe” does not make one innocent, necessarily : To quibble.

    We all know in our hearts what’s right, and what’s wrong.

    There’s no way of getting around that.

    Good try Apuleius, but it ain’t flyin. You were doing great up -to-that-point. Then you blew it. Try again.

  24. My posts about responsibility, and that White Christian America is just as culpaple for the decline and destruction of this county as are the Jews, Hold True Still ; And always will, because it’s The Truth.

  25. Not county, excuse the typo : Country.

    The only county around doing well is “Andy Griffith County”. All other counties in the US are in a mess.

  26. ” Parve leves capiunt animos” means “small things occupy light minds”. Sounds correct to me. Sounds correct, but it’s not worthy.

    Much better yet, ” Big minds are capable of taking full responsibility for their thinking, their actions, and their behavior”

    I don’t know how to say that in Latin, I just made it up in my head, in English : A language We All Understand ; Though sometimes, I get the impression, there are some here who wish they didn’t.

    Not my problem.

  27. Those who lack intelligence and discernment are indeed the innocent dupes of the malicious. Which is why I still consider you innocent, Joe. Lack of capacity is lack of culpability.

    It’s always easy to attack the simple folk. It just isn’t honest or just. I wouldn’t expect you to understand.

    Queer marriage will soon become the law of the land in BRA. Speaking out against it is already a serious thoughtcrime. Most of the simple folk will knuckle under to this tyranny, like with any other. Resistance to tyranny can only be found among an elite.

    Our Yankee elites are the truly culpable. Unlike Judas Iscariot, they lack the decency to try to return their thirty pieces of silver.

    As an example, Romney’s opinion about Chick-fil-a would be interesting, but given his lack of moral courage I don’t suppose we’ll find out anytime soon. Do Mormons support the sodomite agenda? I expect most Yankees do. Mormonism is just another weird Yankee cult like Unitarianism, Quakerism, Shakerism, etc…

    Deo Vindice

  28. @Apuleius

    yeah yeah yeah

    I’m outta here for today. Talk to you tomorrow. Keep trying. I like debating you the best around here.

    Glad your back in town.

    All Hail Caesar Apuleius!

  29. Playing Roots Backwards says: I was just thinking of the root cause of this Chicken War: A silver spoon business boy who shares his father’s tendencies to toss a bunch of cash to SAVE-A-NIGGER foundations decided that he wanted to speak out about queer marriage. It shouldn’t have been such a big deal.

    PRB is the only person that seems to have done his homework.

    As for marriage, it’s a Sacrament of the Church, it only became a government thing in 1856. The government stole it.

    Apuleius said: Queer marriage will soon become the law of the land in BRA. Speaking out against it is already a serious thoughtcrime.

    More than 50% of the USA poulation are rejecting the demands of 2%. The 50% has to be cultivated until it is 60%. It must speak with it’s wallet. F*ck you Chrysler, you make cars for certain people and advertise that. Same with you GM. Starbucks, stop advertising you approve packing fudge, and go back to manually packing the espresso. McDonalds …. uh, if you are white and you eat there you should be tarred and feathered.


    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Amid pressure from Democratic lawmakers, Homeland Security officials reiterated Friday that a foreigner’s longstanding same-sex relationship with a U.S. citizen could help stave off the threat of deportation.

    Binational gay couples are eligible for consideration under a federal program designed to focus resources away from low-priority deportation cases and let officials spend more time tracking down convicted criminals, said Marsha Catron, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security.

    However, the Obama administration will not automatically shelve deportation cases or process green card applications involving foreign citizens married to same-sex American partners.

    Catron said Homeland Security will continue to comply with a 1996 law that prohibits the government from recognizing same-sex relationships, even as it takes these relationships into consideration when evaluating possible deportation.

    The Obama administration last year said it considers the Defense of Marriage law unconstitutional and would no longer defend it in court.

    Friday’s statement, which builds on comments Homeland Security officials made last summer, came three days after 84 lawmakers led by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi demanded the agency put its position in writing and disseminate it to Immigration and Customs Enforcement offices to help keep same-sex couples together.

  31. Joe says:
    “The only county around doing well is “Andy Griffith County”. All other counties in the US are in a mess.”

    No, not really. Plenty of nice areas with decent people still around. Just gotta know where to look.

    Often, my wife and I take a drive less than 30 miles away to visit relatives, do a little fishing on a small lake. The farmer’s market is a hoot. All kinds of produce, baked goods, crafts, bbq’s. It’s located near a supply store. Almost like stepping back in time-no blacks. Might see a Hmong or Mexican now and then.

    We don’t usually stay long, but one day last year we did. They had live entertainment. A bluegrass group comprised of family members who were selling produce put on quite a show. Dad, mom, sons, daughters, uncles, aunts and gramps.

    They did some Ricky Skaggs tunes, some country stuff, and a version of “Smokey Mountain Breakdown” that was absolutely fantastic considering two of the boys couldn’t have been more than twelve or thirteen years old.

    Funny how simple instruments in an open air country setting sound so good. Of course some Gospel tunes were in the mix. They sang, “Will the circle be unbroken” which was only OK because they didn’t have a real bass singer. Someone requested “Go rest high on that mountain”, which got my wife all teared up, as her daddy had recently died.
    Hasn’t been the best year for corn because of lack of rain. Think I’ll take a drive next week to relax and see what’s available.

  32. Just got out of the car and heard on an Atlanta-area radio station that the APD have received $500,000 to combat crime. So they are basically using that money to put more officers on the streets for 60 straight days in areas where the Africans in America frequently “misbehave”.

    Yeah, it’s sort of an attempt at a change of pace/subject. I still think it is ridiculous though. More money wasted to enforce BRA.

  33. Two posts to consider, on the ORIGINAL Topic- Gay, christophobic, anti-heterosexal demon-possession, deserve to be stoned BASTARDS.

    And Chik-fil-A.

    Nothing more needs to be said. Nothing less should be done. They are an abomination before the Lord. They are the last sign before the destruction of a civilization.

    And Sodom and Gomorrah’s judgment for sodomites living freely and ‘openly’ was God’s ONLY response to those, whose consciences have been seared, ‘as with a red-hot iron.’

  34. Of course the Obama administration will let more fags in,,this half nigger African, son of a mudshark mother hates traditional white Christian America. So do his kike Jew friends like Rahm Emanuel. Unfortunately we are fucked. Romney went over to Israel, kissed the Jews’butts and promised to aid them in another war. Why doesn’t he and his fellow Republicans try to ask Netanyahu to ask their fellow Jews here in the USA to quit undermining our culture???

  35. “I’m clinging to the old-fashioned Catholicism of Tuscany, the land of my birth, my Faith and my heritage ; The Catholicism of Tuscany : A spirit of empathy and charitableness towards human weakness; Forebearant and courteous to all , even the Jews*, and even the homosexuals ; An awareness and recognition of the human condition, not so quick to point fingers and place blame on others for one’s own faults.”

    Joe- you’re no more a Toscano, than I am a Ligurian.
    Tu sei pazzo. Finito.

  36. Why are we taking all of this so seriously?

    Those being pushed forward by this agenda are universally reviled by all ethnic groups and often comically ridiculous to boot.

    This is not a minority civil rights situation where our universalistic ideals and Christian charity practically demanded that we give MLK’s dream a chance (I know southerners are gagging). No, it hasn’t worked, and not because there may not be a workable solution out there, but because the civil rights movement has devolved into radical egalitarianism with wealth redistribution being its primary aim.

    The tack taken here by white advocates has been well chosen – those benefitting from white largesse are not grateful – they punish us for our good deed with violent crime and no intent of ever relying on their own efforts for social advancement. Thus advocates present crime stats, review educational and economic progress and find it wanting, etc. A very dry business but the proper approach because all this data demonstrate that the true believers don’t know what they’re doing and won’t admit that it hasn’t worked. The true believers get more shrill the sharper our arguments become.

    But this is an entirely different situation. We don’t need statistics – we need humorous ridicule of those being advanced by the agenda and a mocking disdain of the non-homosexuals pushing the agenda. The opportunities for comedy in this situation are endless!

    And isn’t it really all a transparent attempt mainly by the tribe to set up a value system they can use to marginalize the natural male leaders of our society who enforce societal norms for the benefit of our groups? We need to laugh at and ridicule those being advanced by the agenda, and to confront those pushing it for their malign intent.

  37. “The Roman Catholic faith and the Roman Catholic Church is being carried by Roman Catholics (laiety, priests and bishops) adhering to the faith in the sodalities removed the jurisdiction of Rome. The usurpers of the Church are currently in occupation of the Catholic City worldwide. It does not matter to me how long it takes to remove them and their ilk, but they will be removed.”

    Well, Lynda. YOU finally have said what I have wanted to hear for four years!
    Trouble is, what you are discussing is Orthodoxy, and NOT RC’-ism.

    Because the Orthodox version of it is, ‘Where the Bishop is, there is the Church.’
    The Papal side is, “Where the POPE is, there is the church.”

    If no lawful POPE has been on the Throne of St. Peter since 1958, then ROME IS NO MORE. I couldn’t live with that schizophrenic dichotomy. I am amazed that an intellect (even in a woman) as strong as yours can, either.

    At least we agree on SOMETHING. May God grant your vision (and mine).

  38. @Stonedwifebeater

    Is somebody suffering from roid rage again? Christ, no wonder your wife left you and took all your money — she probably needed all kinds of surgical repairs because of all the beatings you gave her. Why don’t you stop shooting-up so much, and maybe your breasts will go away and your little skittle-sized testicles will return to normal size.

  39. Bill Yancey says:
    “Hey HW, here’s one you ought to read.

    May as well post it.

    Too much free speech
    I’ve just spent an hour or so reading only two blogs which are on my regular list of blogs I read, and 90 percent of what I read was abusive, obscene, insulting, and a waste of time. What’s making people so testy lately? Is it the hot weather, or is it the seeming crescendo of crazy out there in the ‘real world’?
    Something seems to be going on.

    Now, every blogger has to make a decision as to where to draw the lines. Some bloggers believe in essentially allowing everything, while others use a heavy hand in moderating and in censoring posts or hitting the ‘delete’ or ‘ban’ button.

    There’s got to be a happy medium between shutting down discussion and allowing a free-for all.

    I won’t name the blogs I am thinking of here. That would be counterproductive in that it might cause bad feeling or more division on our side. But my readers can probably guess which blogs I refer to.

    Much as I like the idea of free speech, too much of it can be a bad thing. “Free speech” is like fire; it has to be wielded with care.

    I’m mindful that there are, according to some articles I’ve read, paid operatives who visit dissident blogs and purposely sow dissension, fear, disinformation, or just stir things up for the sake of it. It’s often hard to tell who is doing what. Much of it may be just plain old ‘meanness’ and human contrariness.
    There are people who take a perverse thrill in stirring up hornet’s nests, and watching the ‘fun’ when everybody is at each other’s throats, and the good people just walk away in disgust.
    So for a blogger, it’s a delicate balance between allowing free speech (which for me, means a free exchange of ideas and thoughts) and allowing anybody to say just anything on any subject in any way they choose.

    But I hope my fellow bloggers will take into consideration the harm done to the discourse at your blogs, and sometimes to other blogs, as the rancor spills over. I really dislike the claim that we need to tone our self-expression down so as not to offend the delicate sensibilities of the ‘unawakened’ people who may happen by, or the people who are mortified by strongly-expressed opinions. But for our own sakes, for the sake of being productive in our conversations, we really need to weed out the comments that provoke flame-fests, thus driving away the people who don’t want to join into a free-for-all with no holds barred. Nothing is lost, usually, by deleting the offending comments, but leaving such comments to stand, letting them and their authors come to dominate a blog’s discussion, is really destructive. It’s discouraging to bystanders and many lurkers. It gives the same impression of a blog as that which one gets from seeing a building which has been vandalized and graffitied, and left neglected by its owner. The old ‘Broken Windows’ analogy.

    The bad drives out the good, if left to do so.

    Free speech has to be accompanied by responsibility. I’d like to see responsible free speech proliferate, and the bile-filled, malicious, obscene railing disappear. It’s a waste of everyone’s time and as our right to free speech is always under siege, we should value it and use it as wisely as we can, while we have it.

  40. Wow! The comments section of this website has really went to hell in a handbag. Were I new to OD I might think the frequent visitors/commentators were a mixture of clowns and the clinically insane.
    Out of the wasteland of 226 comments, the rare jewels were Apuleius and RRS, as always. Bravo!
    To the rest of you, congratulations, you’re making Southern Nationalists and any other pro-White group look like the buffoons. But some of you are here to do just that.

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