Ultimate 2012 Weekend Pre-Election Thread

BRA

The floor is yours …

Update: My predictions are the same as Barone’s … no sign of D+8 electorate so far in early voting, Romney wins, and Obama makes history again by becoming America’s first one term African-American president.

Obama: Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada.

Romney: Colorado, Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Iowa, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio.

Update: Here are the closing arguments: President Barack Obama: My Vision for America and Mitt Romney: My Vision for America.

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  1. You underestimate the Neocons. Lying about a threat (WMD in Iraq and now Iran) and sending middle and working class American kids (many of them white and Southern) to fight and die in wars that have nothing to do with them or their own country (our Military doesn’t even protect our own borders, and they need it) is pretty evil.

    Further, the Neocons’ hostility to Muslims has nothing to do with the USA. Neocons are perfectly happy to fill America up to the brim with Muslim immigrants. Neocons are hostile to Islam because Islam threatens Israel. That’s it.

    Muslims are 0.6% of America. We aren’t in danger of being overwhelmed by Muslims. Hispanics are at least 17% of the country now (and growing.) Asians are 5% and growing. Neocons have no problem with Hispanic immigration (legal or illegal) or Asian immigration (legal or illegal)

  2. “Hostility of the neocons is typically directed outward toward foreigners like Muslims.”

    With the primary purpose of this being to make sure you don’t look inward and make corrections.

    They don’t need to hate you. They’ve got you slaughtering your own country and cheering for it. It would be hilarious if it weren’t so tragic.

  3. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/us/politics/in-shift-romney-campaign-makes-push-in-pennsylvania.html?ref=todayspaper

    Pennsylvania has voted for the Democratic presidential nominee in every election for the last 20 years. Independent pollsters have called it the Republicans’ white whale. Indeed, polls show Mr. Obama ahead, albeit by a shrinking margin. And his senior political strategist, David Axelrod, even joked this week that he would shave off his mustache of 40 years if they lose here.

    But there is a tangible sense — seen in Romney yard signs on the expansive lawns of homes in the well-heeled suburbs, and heard in the excited voices of Republican mothers who make phone calls to voters in their spare time — that the race is tilting toward Mr. Romney.

    If ever there were a place where a last-ditch torrent of money could move the needle, this is it. For the last couple of months, there has been a void of presidential ads in Pennsylvania. So when Republican strategists looked for places where their money could go the furthest, they set their sights here, reasoning that a dollar spent in Erie or Altoona would have a greater impact than in a place like Las Vegas or Cleveland, where political commercials have clogged the airwaves.

  4. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/02/clinton-to-head-to-pa/

    Washington (CNN) – Add one more high-profile name to the list of those making surprising, last-minute stops to Pennsylvania just days before Election Day: Former President Bill Clinton.

    After Mitt Romney’s campaign said Thursday that the GOP presidential nominee and his running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan, would both stump in the Keystone State this weekend, an Obama campaign official confirmed Friday that the 42nd president would also hit the Pennsylvania trail.

  5. Strauss said we needed a threat in order to make sure we protected what we had. What he really meant was that the only way we would relinquish what remained of us was out of being convinced to try and save it.

    Neocons kiked us out of our remaining cultural integrity in the blink of an eye. It would have taken democrats 100 years to do it, if they could have done it at all.

  6. It’s interesting that Southrons don’t feel as threatened by neocons as Yankees. Perhaps it’s the special relationship between Jews and slavers. That’s why the South votes solid neocon. It may finally be your chance to get back at the Yankee. Jews and Southrons in a loving embrace for eternity. Israel and Dixie forever.

  7. I think Hunter is voting exactly the right way. Romney has not earned the vote of any White Nationalist, Southern Nationalist, Paleocon, Radical Traditionalist or any other Alt Righter. But there are many state Republican parties that are very good. Arizona, Alabama, South Carolina, Oklahoma etc. They have gone after illegal aliens and deserve support. Plus gridlock makes Amnesty less likely.

  8. I agree, though I’d say that Goode probably has some neocon in him, as well.

    The only true antidote to neocon America is A3P.

  9. Here’s the final early voting totals in Washoe County, Nevada which includes Reno. Washoe is the major swing county in Nevada:

    http://battlegroundwatch.com/2012/11/03/washoe-county-final-day-closes-strong-gop-ahead-by-a-nose/#comments

    2012: D (40.4%), R (39.8%), I (19.8%) D+0.6

    2008: D (47.1%), R (35.3%), I (17.5%) D+11.8

    In the 2008 election, the Democrat advantage over Republicans in Nevada was D+8. The Democrats performed significantly better in early voting than on election day.

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2012/10/30/2008-swing-states-party-id/

  10. http://www.politico.com/blogs/charlie-mahtesian/2012/11/gop-ahead-of-early-vote-pace-148136.html?hp=l5

    While Nevada doesn’t provide comparative statewide early vote data between 2008 and 2012, a similar pattern emerges in the two counties where the bulk of the state vote will be cast – the Democratic percentage of early votes is down slightly and there’s an uptick in the GOP percentage.

    In both Clark County (Las Vegas) and Washoe County (Reno), Democrats continue to outpace Republicans, but by a diminished margin over 2008.

    Back then, Democrats held a 52 percent to 31 percent early vote advantage in Clark County. This year, the margin is 48-33. In Washoe, it was 47-35 in 2008 and it’s 41-40 this year.

  11. Also an uptick in “other,” which they admit could sway the state outcome. This is in line with my prediction of third party votes playing a big role in this election.

  12. Undoubtedly most of those “other” voters are former R’s not voting for Romney. Just like the sample we see here at OD.

  13. There isn’t a D+8 electorate:

    Obama early vote edge tenuous

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83248.html#ixzz2B937CJOL

    President Barack Obama is leading in an unprecedented early voting push by both campaigns that has already seen an estimated 22 million people cast ballots.

    But some independent observers said that the president’s lead may not be wide enough to make up the difference between Obama and Mitt Romney in some key battleground states on Election Day.

    While Obama is ahead in early raw voting numbers in Florida and North Carolina, voting expert Michael McDonald, a professor at George Mason University, says Romney has effectively closed the gap enough that strong Republican turnout on Election Day could cost Obama those states.

    “It’s going to be difficult for Obama to pull enough ahead to win North Carolina to offset what Romney may do on Election Day,” says McDonald, director of the United States Elections Project. “They’re seeing the same numbers I am seeing.” . . .

    Obama’s 2008 advantage in early voting in North Carolina and Iowa, and likely in Colorado and Florida as well, helped him win those battleground states even though John McCain received more votes on Election Day in those same states. Democrats tend to vote early in person and Republicans by mail.

    But McDonald said this year, both sides are voting both ways, creating a more level playing field.

  14. The silent less than majority Whites here in Vegas are voting Romney.
    I doubt bongo will win Clarke Co.
    Romney bumper stickers and yard signs out number, bongo signs.

  15. Nevada is going, Romney.
    Here in Vegas there is a strong base, not a Republican base, but an anti obama one.
    The Mormon vote is also out there as well.
    NV?going Romney.

  16. Just as I predicted, the ludicrous polls which assume Republicans are going to underperform McCain in 2008 and Obama is going to overperform 2008 are way off the mark:

    GOP ahead of 2008 early vote pace

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/charlie-mahtesian/2012/11/gop-ahead-of-early-vote-pace-148136.html?hp=l15

    In Colorado, Republicans have cast 38 percent of the early vote to 35 percent for Democrats and 27 percent for unaffiliated voters. Four years ago, the numbers were reversed: Democrats cast 38 percent, Republicans 36 percent and independents 26 percent.

    In Iowa, 43 percent of the early vote this year has been cast by Democrats, 32 percent by Republicans and 24 percent by no party or other. In 2008, the numbers were 47 (D) 29 (R) 24 (NP).

    While Nevada doesn’t provide comparative statewide early vote data between 2008 and 2012, a similar pattern emerges in the two counties where the bulk of the state vote will be cast – the Democratic percentage of early votes is down slightly and there’s an uptick in the GOP percentage.

    In both Clark County (Las Vegas) and Washoe County (Reno), Democrats continue to outpace Republicans, but by a diminished margin over 2008.

    Back then, Democrats held a 52 percent to 31 percent early vote advantage in Clark County. This year, the margin is 48-33. In Washoe, it was 47-35 in 2008 and it’s 41-40 this year.

  17. Although, I think, an Obama victory is best in the long run.
    Aside from seeing the defeat of the coons, nothing will change.
    It’s better to polarize the nation at this point and drive home the reality of this out of control beast.
    If bongo does win, we all get back to undermining the system, not being proud of a meaningless victory.

  18. 60% of Colorado has voted:

    Party Reg
    Dem – 34.8%
    Rep – 37.4%
    None/Other – 27.8%

    40% of Florida has voted:

    Party Reg
    Dem – 42.5%
    Rep – 40.3%
    None/Other – 17.2%

  19. Remember that D+7 Quinnipiac poll of Florida that showed Obama with a 1 point lead? Early voting in Florida ends today (Saturday). 41 percent of Florida has already voted in the 2012 election.

    The Democrat advantage in early voting is a mere D+2.2.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57542715/poll-obama-holds-small-ohio-edge-fla-va-tight/

    As they have throughout the fall, in all three states Republicans remain more enthusiastic about voting this year than Democrats. Florida Republicans in particular have become far more enthusiastic than Democrats over the past month. There is now a 16-point enthusiasm gap between Republicans and Democrats in Florida, 63 percent to 47 percent, up from four points a month ago (52 to 48 percent).

  20. The White vote shows up on election day here in NV.
    NV is going Romney.
    There are tons of Mormans here in the back country here as well.
    Guaranteed, all of legal age WILL be casting a vote.

  21. Something is rotten in these numbers … 40% of Florida and 60% of Colorado has already voted. Romney looks like the clear winner in both states assuming Republican voters don’t break for Obama.

    How then do you get a D+7 electorate in Florida in some of these polls?

  22. Even if we give Nevada to Obama, there is no sign at all of a D+7 to D+9 Democratic wave that some of these polls are assuming in Nevada, Colorado, Florida, North Carolina, and Iowa.

  23. http://www.redstate.com/realquiet/2012/11/03/breaking-obama-campaign-pushes-the-panic-button-in-pennsylvania/

    Romney up 4 in Pennsylvania in release of new poll tonight. Susquehanna is the pollster that nailed Toomey winning his Senate victory on the nose and predicted Tom Corbett’s win within two points.

    Oh my. It looks like the Obama campaign has been caught flat-footed. If Organizing For America is just starting to rustle up volunteers, it is already too late. The momentum is already beyond their control. Romney is already booked to outspend Obama on the airwaves by a 4 to 1 margin in all the PA markets, including Philadelphia, and will be doing a campaign event in Bucks County which is a crucial portion of the Philadelphia suburbs. According to ground reports in Pennsylvania, the Romney ground game and volunteers are off the charts enthusiastic and are definitely believing they will win Pennsylvania. Obama has no time to buy ad time and very little money left with the lion’s share of resources devoted to trying to hang on to Ohio. The New York Times and Ed Rendell are openly very worried about Pennsylvania. I remember a bolt out of the blue whiplash like this happening in the Coakley-Brown Massachusett’s Senate race in 2010.

  24. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20121102/us-presidential-campaign-pennsylvania/

    The incursion raises the question: Can Pennsylvania help Romney win the election, or is the state once again teasing a Republican presidential candidate only to see him fail??

    For Romney, still flush with campaign money, a foray into Pennsylvania is not folly. He has spent massive amounts of time and money in neighboring Ohio only to see Obama maintain a slight and stubborn polling lead. Without Ohio, Romney needs Pennsylvania in his column.

    Unlike states with early voting, 95 percent of the Pennsylvania votes are expected to be cast on Election Day, justifying a late attempt to sway the outcome. Romney aides argue that Obama is doing worse in the voter-rich Philadelphia suburbs than he did in 2008 and that Romney is doing better than recent Republicans have, and that he can build on the growing GOP strength in the western part of the state.

    What’s more, Pennsylvania has not been saturated with political advertising, giving Romney and his supporting groups an opportunity to sway last-minute voters with a barrage of ads. Obama is not ignoring the state, and now is buying commercial time in the state as well. He’s also sending his most formidable weapon, former President Bill Clinton, to the state Monday to campaign in Pittsburgh, Scranton and in the Philadelphia area.

  25. http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/332272/how-romney-camp-sees-early-vote-iowa

    Here’s how the Romney campaign sees the early vote in Iowa:

    Amid a much-hyped public relations campaign for in-person satellite voting, which included voting locations next to Obama rallies and visits from Hollywood stars like Seinfeld’s Jason Alexander, the numbers tell a very different story. As of today, the Democrats are running 14,904 votes short of their 2008 performance, while Republicans are running 8,038 votes ahead of 2008.

    So instead of an 18-point margin, Democrats maintain only a 5-point margin. With absentee ballots, Democrats lead in both requests and returns, as they have every cycle. And while Democrats have increased their AB and early-vote performance by 119 percent overall, Republicans have increased ours by 131 percent. So their raw-vote lead isn’t nearly as important as the dramatic slippage in margin. In combined absentee and in-person voting, their lead is barely 12 percent. That’s well within the margin Republicans need to be able to win on Tuesday, given our historic advantage among Election Day voters.

    In fact, the current Democratic margin is below the margin they held ahead of George W. Bush’s reelection in 2004, the first Republican to carry Iowa since Reagan.

  26. http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/early-voting-buoys-romney/2012/11/01/1848c188-242f-11e2-9313-3c7f59038d93_blog.html

    In sum, there is considerable evidence from both polling of and actual early voting that the political landscape portrayed in a number of state polls showing an Obama lead in swing states doesn’t exist. If that improvement in early voting holds up, Democrats should wonder if those state polls in which they have been investing so much hope are even in the 2012 election ballpark. We’ll find out next week.

  27. If I were Eschatological I would see the Sandy Storm as a sign from god sent to Babylon punishing them for their iniquity. The core voting area for the Dems just got wasted.

    However the press see it as a way to back up a useless nigger president. Who sent Obama? Really who sent this creepy fucker to plague us?

  28. As much as I would love to see the magic negro go down I can’t bring myself to vote for Romney. Romney has done absolutely NOTHING to earn the vote of ANY Southerner, WN or White race realist.

    On the contrary, he as done absolutely EVERYTHING to prove he DOESN’T deserve your vote. He is a white anti-White.

    To those of you who choose him: if he wins enjoy your victory celebration because it will be damn short. You will be cursing him in no time.

    I won’t say that I told you so.

  29. Idk why the “wn” leadership always tells people to not to vote. If you were a carpenter and had some tools, would you throw some out just because they seemed less important? The “left” never throws out stuff.

  30. In terms of policy i don’t think it matters who wins – even if there was anything better about Romney in some areas it’s cancelled out by neoconnery and globalism.

    However in terms of indirect effect?

    Romney win
    – damaging neocon wars (collapse of the globalist economic system is good)
    – black chimpout
    – “liberal” full-on genocidal anti-white hatred chimpout
    – slightly slower drift to white tribal voting (unless outweighed by chimpouts)

    Obama win
    – neocon chimpout (wildcard)
    – permanent increase in background level of black mob attacks
    – muted but noticably genocidal anti-white “liberal” gloating
    – slightly faster drift towards white tribal voting

    There are probably others as well but overall i’d say taken over the whole four years it’s maybe 55/45 better from a WN point of view if Obama wins as the single most critical thing is the drift to white tribal voting. On the other hand it would be *very* funny if he lost even if it only lasted a few days before the inevitable betrayal of the GOP elite spoiled it. My head says Obama but heart is shading Romney just for the short-term hilarity.

  31. Gallup Says Obama Losing by 5%; Ziomedia Says Obama Winning

    For the last two weeks, Gallup has had Romney winning over Obama by about five percent. Gallup is a professional pollster, whose business depends upon their ability to come up with accurate polls. As we approach election day, the professional pollsters need to be as accurate as possible for the sake of their reputations.
    Many polls, however, are run by TV networks or universities and a flurry of misinformation from these propagandists has been showing up in recent news articles as Obama tries to rally his forces despite strong signs that he doesn’t have a chance.
    First of all, no one in the last 60 years has won reelection with an unemployment rate as high as it is under Obama right now. It’s true that most minorities are still supporting Obama despite the horrendous economy, but the United States is still 66 percent White, and White people are typically more inclined to go out and vote than Blacks or Latinos. This means White people could easily make up 80 percent of the likely voters. In that case, only 63 percent of Whites need to vote for Romney to defeat Obama –even with zero votes from the Blacks or Latinos.
    The US has been suffering persistent Depression-level rates of real unemployment. Obama added six trillion dollars to the National Debt. Obama’s economic polices have resulted in the US having its credit rating downgraded twice (a very embarrassing event for a superpower). Obama squandered a large fortune prolonging the Iraq and Afghanistan occupations and on bail outs for Wall Street companies whose reckless policies should have condemned them to bankruptcy.
    Obama also threw the US military behind the rebels in Libya, essentially committing the US military to yet another nation-building exercise, which recently blew up in our faces when the Libyan ambassador and three other Americans were killed by terrorists running loose in the new Libya that Obama helped to create. Obama also turned down requests for increased security by the Libyan ambassador in the face of increasing threats. Worst of all, Obama denied assistance to the Libyan ambassador as he and his bodyguards were surrounded and being attacked. The pro-Obama media apologists are desperately trying to spin their way out of this disaster, but it seems Obama preferred to let four Americans die, rather than use the US military to kill terrorists, who were attacking an American ambassador overseas. I guess that’s what Obama calls “leadership”.
    There was a large shift in momentum about a month ago with the first debate, which highlighted Obama’s $887 billion failed stimulus plan and his $90 billion squandered on green energy boondoggles. Obama also plans to loot Medicare funds for his ObamaCare scheme, which should start strangling the economy starting in 2013 if Obama isn’t voted out.
    Add to all that, the painfully high price of gasoline (over $4 per gallon in California), which can be blamed in large part on Obama’s ban on offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and his failure to drill for oil in newly found oil-rich parts of Alaska.
    Over 80 percent of college graduates can’t get a job in their fields and many of the graduates from 2008, who voted for Obama, are still living in their parents’ basement unable to get a decent job.
    While it may give liberals and some moderates a “warm, fuzzy feeling” to vote for a Black man to prove they aren’t racist, that won’t pay the bills or get them out of their parents’ basement. Liberal suburbs all over America are seeing a drop in the number of Obama yard signs and bumper stickers of as much as 90 percent. Most of the bumper stickers from 2008 were scraped off after Obama’s second unspectacular year. This strongly suggests that a very large percent of White people, who voted for Obama in 2008, will vote against him in 2012 because they have to so the economy doesn’t get any worse.
    All of the polls that show Obama ahead, have assumed that the Democrat turn out will be higher in 2012 than it was in 2008. There’s one little problem with that assumption: It’s 100 percent wrong. In fact,
    a recent news article entitled “Tough News for Obama in Early Voting Figures” reports “Dave Wasserman of the Cook Political Report notes that the early vote in Virginia is not going the way the Obama campaign hoped: ‘Today’s new 10/31 numbers even more troubling for Obama. His best counties way off 2008 pace.’ He elaborates that as of yesterday, 185,489 ballots had been cast in Obama localities, compared to 214,783 by this point in 2008, while 115,908 in McCain, compared to 117,224 in 2008.”
    “He adds, ‘Obama strongholds Arlington -20.0%, Fairfax – 20.9%, Richmond -13.7% (vs. just -9.2% statewide).’ …and ‘In Romney strongholds, enthusiasm up. Hanover (33.1% Obama) turnout up 6.2%, Buchanan (coal country) up 14.5% vs. 2008.’ ”
    This means that all polls that assume a bigger Democratic turn out in 2012 versus 2008, like the thoroughly worthless National Journal (propaganda) poll that came out recently will be massively wrong. This also means that the pollster Gallup, which has had Romney up by 5% and the pollster Rasmussen, which has had Romney up by 0 to 4% percent over the past two weeks are short-shrifting Romney. Given the increased Republican enthusiasm and the decreased Democrat morale, the polling samples of likely voters should include a bigger percentage of Republicans, which means Romney’s lead should get perhaps another five percent added to it.
    While I fully expect Democrats and the Ziomedia to lie and propagandize every election, one very dangerous side effect is that Black Americans will hear all these rosy sounding liberal propaganda polls and start believing them, and then when Romney beats Obama by 8 to 10 percent on election day, the Blacks will be outraged and feel cheated and we will see riots in all our major cities. I’m sure when that happens the Ziomedia won’t blame themselves for lying about Obama’s chances; they’ll blame Romney for winning the election.

  32. “there is no sign at all of a D+7 to D+9 Democratic wave”

    I haven’t been following this but it’s quite possible they took 2008 – which was a historic event election and therefore an anomaly – and used it as a baseline in which case the polling could be totally out of whack.

  33. If Obama wins, they will definitely start cackling about the end of White people. They won’t be able to hold it in.

  34. Lew: That’s just what Joe and Jane Six Pack need to hear, cackling over the demise of their children’s future.
    John: maybe Sandy will be an excuse to postpone the election. Would’t it be a shame if all those libtards from the Mid-Atlantic couldn’t vote?
    More affirmative action, more push for diversity, more 3rd world immigration is in our future, regardless of Romnoid or Obama.

    And I still think Obama is going to walk away with 4 more years, with or without voter consent, but probably with.

  35. Dixiegirl, the “tool box” is empty. ALL the good ones have been thrown out along with the “less important” ones.

    To put it another way, the emperor has no clothes.

  36. Nevada for Romney, in 2010 Big Jew Inc. and their small business owning Mormon compatriots bussed in the Mexes on election day to support the half wit Reid because he was Senate majority leader.

    Well two of the super jews if they are to be trusted hate Obama and have been quite vocal about it. Mormons, please cracker their voting totals will be about 120% turnout. No buses for the non-whites.

  37. Obama is starting to pull away. Two polls today show him with leads in Ohio and Florida (to match his leads in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, Wisconsin …etc.) .

    Also, VDARE reports Romney’s white share is dwindling back to the McCain levels. With this momentum Obama will win both the popular vote and the electoral college vote. It’s not going to be that close and it will be an early night on Tuesday. Blacks will be celebrating the survival of BRA – not rioting against SWPL types, unfortunately.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html

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