Italian Americans are our most solid, pro White RACIST group. For our younger readers still learning the hidden truths of racial realities, please read up on Philadelphia, Italian American police chief and mayor Frank Rizzo. Black mobs rioted and destroyed most of Detroit, Newark, Watts, the West Side of Chicago in the late 1960s. But, they did not do so in Frank Rizzo’s Philadelphia (Link). On the international scene from Europe to the United Kingdom to Australia to South America, it’s the same positive story.
Italians are very racist, solidly in our White camp.
Thus, it is with great joy and much relief that we learn that the new Catholic Pope Francis is an Argentinean of Italian heritage (most Argentineans are Italians). He is apparently a solid, traditional Jesuit, not in to some cultural marxist abomination of Catholicism like “Liberation Theology”.
So the good news (“gospel”) is that the Catholic church has gone for White “Hispanic” leadership and the top of the church is back in Italian hands.
Steve Sailer has some excellent comments on this great White Hispanic choice for Pope and has added some funny (accurate) Italian soccer themes (Link):
“Pope Francis I: A Lionel Messi halo effect?
By Steve Sailer on March 13, 2013 at 11:52pm
I read in Grantland yesterday:
There was even a rumor making the rounds Tuesday afternoon that the cardinals in Rome trying to elect a pope conveniently called it a day a half-hour before the Barcelona-Milan game so they could catch the broadcast.
Barcelona’s great Italian-Argentine leader Lionel Messi broke out of a minor slump to score two goals to lead Barcelona to a 4-0 win over Silvio Berlusconi’s AC Milan.
Today, it was announced that the conclave had elected an Italian-Argentine cardinal, Jorge Mario Bergoglio, to be the new Pope.
Coincidence?
Viewed in the crass terms of ethnic politics, this pick looks like a two-fer: satisfying the rising Hispanic tidal wave etc., while letting the Italians get back the Papacy, which they held for about a half-millennium up until the Polish Pope.”
“You only agree it’s harmful when called on it.”
To the contrary, in months of comments on record, I have never recommended but consistently advised AGAINST northern conservatives fleeing to Dixie.
We speak the same language as England and Canada, have the same basic customs. We must be one nation then
You only want your trouble makers conning here.
But: “Move those liberals south!”
An ironic retort. Not actual advice. Grasped readily by the intelligent mind.
No simply the 1st honest words of a dishonest yankee
Re: troublemakers coming:
I don’t wish them on anyone, here or there, and I have never advised anyone to move south. I am sorry you were offended by the ironic comment “move them south.”
Review old threads, and note that I was the first to post that well-liked music selection “Move them Niggers north” on this blog. Did that mean I recommend moving them north?
I’ll remember you at the throne of grace. Peace. Good night.
“Southrons are a nation.”
It might have been once if the Yankees had not intervened. I don’t think aristocratic Virginians and South Carolinians (what’s left of them), Kentucky hillbillies, Louisiana Cajuns, or Texans of any stripe have as much in common as y’all seem to think especially when it comes to religion. At least that’s my objective observation as an outsider who has spent a bit of time down there.
The South seems to vary as much as the rest of the country as a matter of fact. Even Memphis and Knoxville are very different. There is not much in common between ranchers out West and New Yorkers either.
“We speak the same language as England and Canada, have the same basic customs. We must be one nation then”
– Except that America’s literal existence is defined by it’s violent severing from England.
Although Canadian “independence” is commonly commemorated as July 1 1867, the British didn’t finally recognize it as an independent country until 1982. You make a false comparison.
You don’t speak a seperate language . . .
The official language of Nigeria is English. So what? Southron English is distinct in many ways from American English.
. . . your smattering of religious denominations are no different than those anywhere else in America . . .
I’m no fan of the Baptists, but –
http://anamericanatheist.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/religionMap1.jpg
. . . you don’t hold to different cultural customs . . ..
Our customs, which remain distinct enough to irk many a newly-arrived colonist, were far more distinct before Dixie was de-Southernised.
And if “common descent” is the qualifier for nationhood, then you better include healthy portions of New England, because, like it or not, those Yankees whom you so despise, are pretty much your ethnic siblings.
We did not develop with the New Englanders. There has never been any sense of kinship with them. The only connection we have to them is that some of them descend from the British Isles, just as do Canadians and Australians.
Northern white ethnics rioted against the Draft Act so ferociously that the Army and Navy had to open fire on them for three days to restore order.
Those were Irish immigrants, not Yankees.
You mean the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that your Southron son Lyndon Johnson signed into law on July 2nd of that year?
“Legend has it that, as he put down his pen, Johnson told an aide, ‘We have lost the South for a generation’, anticipating a coming backlash from Southern whites against Johnson’s Democratic Party.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_B._Johnson#Civil_rights
You really do not like hearing your own words. Why should I think for a second they were jokes vs you months long air of yankee german superiority? why should the throne be taken literary and not Creation or the flood?
Sadly Rudel speaks a lot of truth. National media, watching the same tv shows, news broadcasts, same main stream musicians etc has done a lot to erode our unique way of life. Even accents are disappearing, but as Long Lived said, we are still different enough to piss off transplants, and liberals. And hollywood and the media etc
My people have been telling your people the truth about negros for a 150+ years.
Yes. But that truth had also been weighed against the fact that self-interested owners of slaves would say anything to keep owning productive “farm equipment”. Information was much harder to come by then than now.
The view of the abolitionists was that slavery would fade away if it wasn’t allowed to expand. This is certainly true. Even with share-croppers held in debt slavery, the invention of the mechanical cotton picker by John Rust eliminated the need for Blacks just as it tossed the Okies out of the Sooner State (e.g. Steinbeck’s Grapes of Wrath). Had the South demanded a Constitutional amendment to protect its ways, the issue would likely have been settled without a war.
Your people elected to ignore us so you could use negros as a weapon against Southron Whites.
No. Northerners were also hearing voices that said slavery was wrong and the union was paramount (the South refused to stay in the union and just not expand slavery to new territories). The small elite who wrote the terms of Reconstruction used Blacks as a weapon; the average Northerner had no idea what would happen, and after suffering the toll of dead and maimed nobody was going to listen until long after the fact. In all seriousness: if someone had killed one of your relatives or returned him unfit to work and suffering to the end of his days, would you listen to his complaints of mis-governance? Especially when, as a church-going man, you heard regularly about the evil of slavery and how every human being was a creature of God?
This is one reason why I style myself “Mr. Rational”. I do not take the statements of Christian ministers, or anyone else, on faith. Too many people have taken their directions down the road to ruin.
Northerners have suffered too. We’ve lost many, many cities and tens of thousands of lives to Black criminality and spent trillions to support their fecklessness. We’re also the victims of broken promises. It’s taken this long to convince people that the Christians who said “we’re all the same” were wrong. Maybe those who said it believed it. Maybe a few were evil, but most were just misled.
People made mistakes. Let’s not repeat them on their sesquicentennial, shall we? Fighting Southern White against Northern White in a feud 150 years old is just the sort of division that plays into the hands of our mutual enemy. You want your cities back. I want mine: I want St. Paul and Chicago and Gary and Indianapolis and Flint and Detroit and Toledo and Philadelphia and Camden and Newark, and all the damn Somalis in Lewiston rounded up and flown back to Mogadishu.
This starts with rescinding the VRA, rescinding Affirmative Action, rescinding Title IV, Griggs vs. Duke Power Corp. and “disparate impact”, and rescinding Brown vs. Board of Education and Shelley vs. Kraemer. It continues with the replacement of Federal welfare programs with local efforts passed through private charities. It means freedom of association. Are we agreed? Can you forgive the sins of people a century dead and work with me?
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Focusing on these trivial differences is so stupid it burns.
Mr. Rational,
Most Southerners who share those goals would be happy to work with you.
There are a number of backwards-looking crypt keepers here at OD with some very antiquated ideas (to put it charitably) who might dispute it but they speak for no one but themselves.
Can you forgive the sins of people a century dead and work with me?
You are just shifting blame to your ancestors. The occupation and colonisation of Dixie by your people continues to this day.
Why should we work with you? The goal is an independent Southland – a Southland for Southrons. What can you bring to that cause? You should stop worrying about what Southrons think about you and start worrying about saving your own people from chronic liberalism.
Mr Rational you are correct on what needs to be done. However those things will never be accomplished while we are part of the union.
Those yankees who died in the war of northern aggression died to collect tariffs, established an all powerful central government by killing Whites and elevating negros over Southron Whites. I am with out regard for them or the descendants
There is no historical track record of yankee actions for the Southron White man to base trusting yankees , or working with yankees.
Why should we think this time will be different vs the 150+ year history of yankee hostility and various forms of war against us?
Deeds build trust and cooperation not words. You only have words, I have a long historical record of yankee actions toward Southern Whites to establish why we should not trust northern Whites or cooperate with them.
Will I forgive those sins? No. Those sins are still on going, there has been no organized and wide spread efforts to make amends, or restitution. There is nothing to base forgiveness on. There is nothing to base trust on. There is no base to establish cooperation on.
I’ll ask you Lew, where are there a series of actions over that point to us trusting and working with yankees?
@ Lew…
“Just on this blog alone you have Jack Ryan, Rudel, Denise, Mosin Nagant, 313Chris and many others who are sympathetic select Southern perspectives, or they wouldn’t be here….”
I could probably break bread with Mosin N., and we would find genuine points of connection.
Um… otherwise, I’d be afraid for my physical safety, lol.
Being “racist” in the sense of hating blacks, jews, asians, mexicans (or whatever is irking you most)— is not the SAME as supporting an ethnic sub-group (it’s history, worldview, right to land exclusively for itself, literature, arts, right to have a GENUINE VOICE, ie, like there would be tons of blogs by people who lived in planter culture before the WBTS, either subsistence or slave owning, shared religion, etc.)
For many “racism” means hating others. For others, it means immersing oneself as deeply as possible in your real roots, your cultural materials, having influences of your own white sub-group etc.
For instance: We ate COMPLETELY DIFFERENT food., a restaurant for which cannot be found in the south now. I never HEARD of “bagels” until college, and my equally “hick” bf (when we tried them…yuck!) called them Ba-Jels. lol
@ Mosin:
“….If you mean intellectually, morally supportive, then I’m definitely a sympathiser. I’m concerned mostly with my own region and locality, where my “roots” and kinfolk are, and my practical action and attention are focused here….”
That’s the catch-22. That actually is WHAT MAKES YOU more of a “sympathizer,” since that’s the genuine southern attitude, especially of the Upper South/ Appalachians.
You have (from concentrating on yourself) A REAL PERSONALITY, and things to share, you have “your own deal” which you can talk about.
There’s more to you than just hating other people.
The problem is that the “Rainbow Country” has piled SO MANY PEOPLE on each other that everyone (rightfully) fears sectarian violence. So they bite their tongue, live in alienated environments (since none of their own people are around).
It can be a totally devastating life, on a social level. It’s not fair to ANYONE.
On the topic:
I fear ANY foreign theocracy that is recognized with diplomatic status in any country where I might live.
There is no difference between a pope having “full diplomatic status,” and giving the Dali Lama (or whatever) a similar role and focus where I’d live.
If all the spots on t.v. had been about “will the smoke go up for the new Imam” it would have been absolutely no different for me.
That this particular group has had historical animosities to the degree it has SCARES ME. I am afraid to live in a country where it is happening.
Elsewhere bound.
Due to the MAINSTREAM media point of view—
Many are unaware that showing the pope daily (on t.v.) ACTUALLY SCARES many Americans. And if they say so, they are told they are “backward” or “stupid,” etc.
That the man is WHITE in color means nothing to me. It means nothing to HIM, either. And that should matter!
@Rudel So you are from Philadelphia, and admit that Rizzo was in bed with Shapp (Shapira). Big bark no bite. LOL.
@Dixiegirl Right, the Scotch-Irish or Ulster Irish are Protestants. They are not Irish Catholics. It is weird how much influence the Trotskyites and other communist-socialists have…I do have Jim Webb’s book, but he, and the estimable Tom Lewis have gone off the Rainbow Confederate end on subjects like Rosa Parks…
Thanks, Dixiegirl. I also despise bagels, and Chinese and Hispanic food, and don’t care much for “the Mediterranean diet” either. My tastes are narrow enough to be satisified with whatever can be grown or raised here — and fortunately the summer season is just long enough for melons, okra and yams. But cane sugar, cocoa, citrus and bananas from the DEEP south are appreciated as long as we can get them.
Our culture includes what we eat. “Exotic” and imported eating habits are promoted by the globalists. Going to foreign restaurants is voting to destroy our culture, and ethny.
When I was a teenager I wanted to move to West Virginia or eastern Kentucky. I studied maps and books, trying to find the most rural or empty wilderness location for subsistence farming. I even began applying to a small college close by, and took a trip to check things out. I was the only one in my family who listened to “hillbilly” music all the time — the very old, genuine music (NOT modern Nashville!) played on “The Old Sheriff Show.” Back in the early sixties my favourite toy was “The Blue and Gray Battle Set,” and I read everything I could about the war. For some strange reason, I identified with the South even though they were supposed to be the bad guys. I liked my grey Confederate hat (stars and bars on top) as a boy, and wore several of them out over several years.
Along the way, however (a long story) I gave up on the “transplant” idea. When I ended up farming here, I became “stuck in place” and began to appreciate my roots and home community fully — even though with Welsh on one side and German on the other, the roots are very confusing (you mono-ethnics are fortunate, so remember not to mix!) — but fortunately the German and Welsh roots are both VERY Protestant, and the German family here goes back to the earliest colonial settling time — and the home community is not monoethnic either. Music is very helpful in sorting out ethnic identity: I discovered Celtic music, but still appreciate OLD hillbilly music, and always identified with the Anglo-Celtic in some early British, Aussie and American rock music. I like serious, DOCTRINAL (as opposed to experiential) OLD German, Welsh and Anglo-Celtic HYMNS. I like hymns and ballads — music with WORDS, that has a true message or tells good stories — the sounds and stories that are “in our blood.”
I have learned we should (if at all possible) make paradise of the place where we are planted, rather than look for paradise elsewhere — and it is generally impossible to MOVE to paradise: For example, if many northerners who feel attracted to a southern paradise would actually move there, it would instantly cease to BE that paradise. Besides, it is not natural to break off with kinfolk and memories, to join with a different community or people in a different place. But moving around constantly is promoted to us constantly by globalism, along with adultery and divorce.
We should do unto other peoples as we would have them do unto us — stand and fix our problems and make paradise where we are planted. Only by remaining in place, we can build our communities through generations.
Staying on topic. I don’t rejoice about the Pope either — the new figurehead of the most successful destructive heresy. It will come to an end some day.
Long Live Dixie fumed:
The occupation and colonisation of Dixie by your people continues to this day.
What do you mean, my people? Despite a thaw the week before last, there’s still a foot of snow on the ground outside my door. Most of my blood relatives are north of an east-west line through Chicago, with a few in Missouri and one I believe in California.
Even if they were in Alabama, what would you want me to do about it? Kidnapping is considered hostile and would get me un-invited from family gatherings. I don’t have the money to put them up anyplace more expensive than Detroit, and they’d certainly grouse about the accomodations. I’d never hear the end of it.
You are just shifting blame to your ancestors.
It was a Virginian judge who ruled in favor of Anthony Johnson in 1655. Are you going to blame Virginians for bringing that “peculiar institution” to the British colonies? The planters who begged for African workers because English indentures often failed to survive even one year? The French for importing African slaves to Louisiana in 1717? Your ancestors for adopting slavery when Alabama became a territory and then a state?
Will it do any good if you do? Could you do anything about it?
Why should we work with you? The goal is an independent Southland – a Southland for Southrons. What can you bring to that cause?
How do you propose to do that, when you can’t even get rid of illegal immigrants, Section 8 moochers and “refugees” turning your neighborhoods into war zones? Fixing those things would benefit both of us. Restoring states’ rights also restores independence from Washington. How do you expect to find allies if you focus exclusively on goals that benefit only yourself?
You should stop worrying about what Southrons think about you and start worrying about saving your own people from chronic liberalism.
I just gave you a to-do list of where I’d start. You might want to read up on it, you might find that it helps you toward your goals too.
You have yet to establish any historical record to base cooperation on. yankees killed state’s rights. Why should we believe there is a significant number of yankees who want to undo what their forefathers accomplished?
What you are not tracking Mr Rational is we can deal with those things on our own. And would have done so already if not for the federal govt and yankee votes in congress
“@Rudel So you are from Philadelphia, and admit that Rizzo was in bed with Shapp (Shapira). Big bark no bite. LOL.”
Admit what? It’s a matter of public record that Rizzo started off as a big city union Democrat like most Northern cops. I actually further elucidated this for you, dumbass.
“No bite?” Whatever do you mean by that Buttzhead?
@DixeGirl
“otherwise, I’d be afraid for my physical safety, lol.”
Don’t worry your pretty little head Dix. I’ve never smacked a woman who didn’t richly deserve it.
What do you mean, my people?
Yankees.
How do you propose to do that, when you can’t even get rid of illegal immigrants, Section 8 moochers and “refugees” turning your neighborhoods into war zones?
We can very easily do all those things, but as stonelifter has already mentioned, the US government does not allow us to do those things.
I ask you again, instead of worrying so much about what Southrons think of you why don’t you worry about curing your people of their chronic liberalism? Nobody likes a busybody, and we have had more than our share of Yankee busybodies.
You have yet to establish any historical record to base cooperation on.
So even if you have allies reaching out to you, you don’t want them because they weren’t allies already.
You have yet to establish any historical record to base cooperation on. yankees killed state’s rights.
You mean, the old-line political elites (like the Bushes) killed state’s rights. That was before “diversity” and Affirmative Action and mass immigration, all of which are deeply unpopular everyplace they’ve touched. Maybe it’s time to try reaching across that divide. If you never try anything new, you’ll never do anything new.
What you are not tracking Mr Rational is we can deal with those things on our own. And would have done so already if not for the federal govt and yankee votes in congress
What you’re saying is that you can’t deal with those things because of the Feds and those votes. That’s where you need help. I’ve got a list of problems the Feds cause me. So far as I can tell, all of those problems are your problems too. Still don’t want allies outside the South?
@Mosin
“Going to foreign restaurants is voting to destroy our culture, and ethny.”
OMG!!! I had a burrito just the other day. Surprisingly, neither me nor my family magically turned into Mexicans because of it. I like Brie, real Parmesan Reggiano straight up, a nice dry Bordeaux wine (I can’t imagine eating a nice medium rare char-broiled New York cut steak without it), and Brut champagne too. The nice thing about champagne is that it goes with absolutely every food from everywhere. I’m supposed to prefer lutefisk and raw salmon over that? As the NYC Italians say: fuggetiboutit!
Thin, tasteless, tough as rawhide chicken fried steak is just plain awful though, especially served up with grits and covered in gravy for breakfast as is done in many a Southern cafe. I must say am partial to the Southern fried chicken and cornbread our cook Flora used to serve us when I was a kid though.
“I discovered Celtic music, but still appreciate OLD hillbilly music”
Old Timey music is Celtic music. The melodies and even the lyrics of some ballads are often exactly the same. And jigs and reels are still jigs and reels.
Well said Rudel.
Votes up north create BRA and keep it going. That is the problem we need to fix. Since that has been the case sense 1860 the only actual solution is to be free of those people. If I saw good progress of yankees changing ways perhaps common ground could be found. There is none for the now. Realistically if those people have not figured things out by now the never will.
Is simple terms, think of Peanuts; Charlie Brown, Lucy and the football. Your people are Lucy with a long track record of pulling the football away from Charlie. Why should Charlie Brown think this time will be different?
Long Live Dixie and stonelifter are like the cavalry in WW 1.
And you are the foolish Charlie Brown, hoping beyond logic that this time Lucy won’t pull the football away. Because this time she really means it when she says “it will be different this time”.
http://peanuts.wikia.com/wiki/Football_gag
The concept of cavalry didn’t change though. It just shifted to the tank. I wouldn’t drive a MarkI into battle today or a Tiger, or for that matter a Sherman.
But a fast moving mobile force that isn’t foot slogging is the conceptual essence of cavalry. Raiding, deep penetration, strategic aggression tactical defense–the machine just shifted from the biological to the mechanical. This doesn’t even address the similarity between the Knight and the Pilot.
“Old Timey music is Celtic music. The melodies and even the lyrics of some ballads are often exactly the same. And jigs and reels are still jigs and reels.” Well aware of that, Rudel. Either way, it’s in our blood.
The great sin of the North was Reconstruction however the great sin of the South was their support of WWI and WWII which exceeded any other region of the country. After the South helped burn down Germany and half of Europe the Yankee-Judeo beast turned it’s attention to the South with it’s Civil Rights movement however after 70 years the good ol boys haven’t learnt their lesson yet. The South has been cut off from Western Civilization too long and have some delusions of superiority the South needs to repent of their sins against their European brethren. If they are not willing, fine let them be independent and cutoff from the rest of W
Going to foreign food restaurants might not turn you instantly Mexican, Italian or Chinese, Rudel, but it supports the foreign spearhead who get their feet in the doors of our rural communities with their restaurant businesses.
hit the wrong button as I was saying
If they are not willing, fine let them be independent and cutoff from the rest of Western Civilization and let them welcome their former slaves who went North with open arms and develop their White Supremacy civilization.
Detroit destroyed both Germany and Japan.
With an assist from Tankograd in the Urals.
The south was neither here nor there except for personnel. California was pumping out the aircraft and that was motivated by a white fear of the yellow peril.
White military must become aware of, and stop fighting for the global hegemonists who are destroying ALL whites in BOTH northern and southern states. They must recognise the errors of their pro-globalist ways and the pro-Zionist modern misinterpretation of Daniel and Revelation.
Still don’t want allies outside the South?
Are Yankees the only people outside the South? I think I speak for most Southron nationalists when I say that we’ll take all the European allies we can. Canadians, Australians, and South Africans, too.
England provoked WWII in the first place by sticking it’s fat nose in Germany’s personal business.
Stonelifter,
I’m suggesting Southern Nationalists work with what amount to the copperheads of our day. Not sure what’s so controversial about that.
I think their numbers are to low to account for much Lew. You are putting time and resources into a dead end, but they are your resources
WWII was a battle for supremacy between the Germans and Slavs with a significant admixture of Jewish gamesmanship added in for good measure. WWI was more or less the same thing.
Eventually the Germans and Russians were going to come to blows in their bids for supremacy.
The western powers were and remain to this day incidental to the titanic struggles of ethnic rivals in that region.
It’s funny that you’re that pissed off about WW2 as it enriched Detroit more than any other region on the world.