Dixie
Editor’s Note: I will continue working throughout the weekend. Keep checking in for updates. The next RFM debate with Alex Linder is about goals, tactics, and strategy.
Our Vision
I’m an ethnonationalist.
I believe that ethnicity is more powerful than race. I want a free and independent Republic of Dixie, an Anglo-Celtic nation-state like Hungary or Poland carved out of the wreckage of the United States, that is based on blood, culture, and history, not on failed liberal abstractions.
There are other separatist movements that fall into the same category: Québec in Canada, Flanders in Belgium, Scotland in the United Kingdom, Catalonia and the Basque Country in Spain, and Padania in Italy. Ireland, Croatia, Norway, Hungary, Greece, and Ukraine have already succeeded in joining the European family of nations.
Like the Catalans or Québécois, Southern Whites are a distinct ethnic group within America. Dixie is a nation within the United States that manifests itself in every presidential election, every major vote in Congress, the U.S. Census, and the maps of cultural geographers.
The Southern States:
The Southern States (Core and Periphery):
The Baptists:
Southern English:
“Real Americans”:
Dixie:
Dixie Coalition:
Confederate States of America (1861-1865):
Jim Crow South (1896-1965):
The Republic of Dixie would include the 11 states of the ex-Confederacy, West Virginia, Kentucky, Oklahoma, and the southern third of Missouri below I-44. In a worst case scenario, we might may have to cede Maryland, the Mexican border counties in Texas, the Washington Metro Area in Northern Virginia, and South Florida.
The international border between the Republic of Dixie and the United States would start at the Atlantic, run under the NOVA counties in Virginia before moving up toward the Shenandoah Valley, it would wrap around West Virginia excluding the Northern Panhandle, follow the Ohio River around Kentucky to Missouri, where it would follow I-44 through Missouri toward Oklahoma before sweeping around the Texas-New Mexico border and down through the Anglo-Hispanic ethnic fault line in South Texas toward the Gulf of Mexico.
The differences between the Republic of Dixie and the White Republic envisioned by the White Nationalists are clear:
– Dixie is a real nation. Southern Whites are a distinct people. This is a place that exists in the real world. It is not an abstraction or a proposition nation. It has a name and already exists in the minds of the people. It is not a vague fantasy that exists only in the minds of alienated intellectuals scattered across a continent.
– Dixie has all the ingredients of an independent nation: a common ethnicity, a common culture, a common ideological outlook, and a common history. White Nationalism is based on a racial identity and racial grievances. Simply put, there is more glue to Southern Nationalism because there is more homogeneity, which means there are fewer areas for conflict and division.
– Dixie has existed as an independent nation in the past: the Confederate States of America. There has been an earthquake along that sectional fault line before which destroyed the Union. It is still to this day the most likely spot where the Union would be cleaved in two.
– Southern Nationalism is a type of European-style ethnonationalism. White Nationalism is a reiteration of Americanism. There has already been at least one White Republic, the United States until 1861, and it failed due to ethnic and cultural divisions among White Americans.
With the exception of Harold Covington, White Nationalists can’t tell you the name of their proposed nation, where it would be located in the real world, what ethnicity would be the basis of their White ethnostate, or how their White Republic would be created. After thirty years of talking about creating a White Republic, you would think these basic questions would have been answered a long time ago.
Golden Dawn, for example, can answer all of these questions in under a minute: Greece, Greece, the Greeks, taking over the government. The Québécois can answer all of those questions: Québec, Québec, the Québécois, taking over the government and seceding from Canada. The Catalans have the same answers: Catalonia, Catalonia, the Catalans, taking over the government and seceding from Spain.
What about Southern Nationalists? We have the same answers as the Scots, Québécois, the Greeks, and the Catalans: Dixie, Dixie, taking over the Southern states, seceding from the Union, and creating the Republic of Dixie.
Our Strategy – Working Within The System
I will say at the outset that we believe reforming the system is impossible.
In the United States, we live under a system of representative government. Southern Nationalists have no objection in principle to the system of representative government – it works in homogeneous countries, but doesn’t work in heterogeneous ones. America is a failure as a nation and there is no political solution but secession and independence to that problem.
Americans no longer share a common race, a common ethnicity, a common culture, a common religion, a common history, or a common philosophical worldview. As America becomes ever more “diverse,” we are finding out that we have ever less in common with other “Americans,” and truth be told, if this were a marriage, we would have gotten divorced a long time ago.
White Southerners are a permanent minority in this Union. We are a permanent minority in a system based on majority rule. In 2008 and 2012, White Southerners voted against Barack Obama in overwhelming numbers, but Obama’s election and reelection only proved the futility of trying to reform a system in which we are a hopelessly outnumbered ethnic and cultural minority.
The consolidated despotism that we are living under today under Obama will only get worse under his successors as changing racial and cultural demographics continue to erode our political power. Obama’s election has proven that Democrats can write off Southern Whites and still win the White House. The Democratic media no longer even tries to hide its racial and cultural contempt for White Southerners.
So what are our options?
– The first option is submission. We can submit to being ruled indefinitely by a coalition of Yankees and Jews and “people of color.” We can lose our freedom. We can lose our culture. In the long run, we can allow this “majority” of racial, ethnic, and cultural aliens to plunder us of everything we own.
– The second option is self delusion. We can delude ourselves into believing that everything will be fine and that we can run Marco Rubio in 2016 and win over legions of budding “black conservatives” and “Hispanic conservatives.” The unprecedented level of moral cowardice on display at sites like RedState.com ensures that self delusion will win the day for at least one more election cycle.
– The third option is secession. We can seize power in the Southern states, secede from the Union, and form our own nation-state, the Republic of Dixie. In this scenario, we will have a fighting chance to preserve our way of life, and there is already movement in this direction in Texas and the rest of Dixie.
– The fourth option is revolution. If our backs are firmly pressed against the wall, armed revolution might become the only realistic way to preserve our way of life. See the White Man’s Revolution of 1876 in South Carolina.
– The fifth option is emigration. We can move to some other country. Don’t make me laugh with suggestions of moving to the Pacific Northwest. The same despotism that exists here can be found there as well. If Mississippi or Alabama can’t be pushed to resistance, there is no hope at all for Washington or Oregon.
Secession is our first choice.
We want to peacefully secede from the United States like Ukraine and Georgia seceded from the Soviet Union or Czechoslovakia broke apart in the Velvet Divorce. In Great Britain and Canada, Scotland and Québec have been given referendums to secede, Puerto Rico recently had a referendum on joining the United States, and Catalonia will soon be holding a referendum on secession from Spain.
In order to bring about disunion, we are supportive of “working within the system” – by that we mean at the state level, and only within the South – in order to exacerbate sectional polarization, galvanize our supporters, and advance the cause of secession with the ultimate objective in mind of calling a state convention in every Southern state to vote on the dissolution of this Union.
As we have already seen, our fellow disunionists in Europe and Canada are “working within the system” and they are way ahead of us: the Parti Québécois in Québec, the Scottish National Party in Scotland, the Convergence and Union Party (CiU) in Catalonia, Golden Dawn in Greece, and Vlaams Belang in Belgium.
In the United States, we don’t have a parliamentary system of government and couldn’t hope to reproduce those results with a third party in the South, but it might be possible for Southern Whites to imitate and invert the racial and ideological solidarity of the blacks and Hispanics within the Democratic Party and form a Southern Nationalist Caucus within the Republican Party in the Southern state legislatures.
The future of the Republican Party is unclear at this moment. Whatever its fate, the goal of the Southern Nationalist Caucus should be to split the Republican Party along sectional lines to precipitate the dissolution of the Union. Now that the GOP is pretty much dead as a viable national party, I imagine this will become more feasible moving forward.
Our Strategy – Christianity and Conservatism
Southern Nationalists are “mainstreamers.”
By that I mean our strategy is based on winning over our own people to the cause of secession or closing the gap between the Southern Nationalist vanguard and the White Southern masses until the need to secede from this despotic government becomes so obvious that it is accepted as common sense.
In this area, we are counting on the fecklessness of Conservatism, Inc., the failure of the Tea Party to “Take Back America,” the impotence of the national GOP, and the triumphalism and hubris of the minority-majority and their cheerleaders in the mainstream media to disillusion and alienate the average White Southern male and thereby sow the seeds of disunion.
We are under no illusions that the South is going to cease to be Christian and conservative and embrace White Nationalism and atheism after rejecting the values it has held for almost four centuries.
It is conceivable though that Southerners might be provoked to revolt in defense of the Southern way of life: a conservative revolution like the one in the video below against a hated, despotic central government and the economic ruin and godless, degenerate Northeastern culture that it seeks to impose on Dixie through its abuse of federal power.
As White Southerners lose power at the national level, they will predictably seek empowerment at the state level. When it finally becomes clear that White Southerners have permanently lost power within the minority-majority United States, the allure of White male empowerment through secession will become an irresistible temptation.
Alex Linder has proposed attacking the Christians and conservatives. While nothing would give Southern Nationalists greater pleasure than witnessing the demise of bloodsucking parasites like Conservatism Inc. and the Republican Party or the hucksters who are destroying the Southern Christianity, who we agree can and should be attacked, the following demographic facts must be kept in mind:
Self-Identified Ideology By State
Conservatives are predominant in every Southern state. These numbers also mask the true level of White Southern conservatism by including blacks and Hispanics in the poll:
Mississippi – 53.4%
Alabama – 49.8%
Louisiana – 49.5%
Arkansas – 47.9%
Oklahoma – 47.4%
Tennessee – 45.5%
Texas – 44.8%
West Virginia – 44.6%
South Carolina – 44.6%
Georgia – 43.9%
Missouri – 43.5%
North Carolina – 43.2%
Kentucky – 42.7%
Virginia – 41.3%
Florida – 39.9%
There is no road to secession or revolution in Dixie that doesn’t go through winning over the conservative majority.
I shouldn’t have to explain why attacking Christianity and making atheism a litmus test is a non-starter in the Bible Belt. These numbers also mask the true level of White Southern religiosity by including blacks and Hispanics in the poll:
Mississippi – 59% (very religious), 11% (non-religious)
Alabama – 56% (very religious), 16% (non-religious)
Louisiana – 54% (very religious), 16% (non-religious)
Arkansas – 54% (very religious), 19% (non-religious)
South Carolina – 54% (very religious), 18% (non-religious)
Tennessee – 52% (very religious), 18% (non-religious)
North Carolina – 50% (very religious), 21% (non-religious)
Georgia – 48% (very religious), 20% (non-religious)
Oklahoma – 48% (very religious), 23% (non-religious)
Texas – 47% (very religious), 22% (non-religious)
Kentucky – 47% (very religious), 24% (non-religious)
Missouri – 44% (very religious), 28% (non-religious)
West Virginia – 43% (very religious), 26% (non-religious)
Virginia – 42% (very religious), 27% (non-religious)
Florida – 39% (very religious), 31% (non-religious)
There is no path to secession or revolution in Dixie either that doesn’t go straight through the “very religious” and “moderately religious” who make up the Republican base.
Is it even desirable to encourage atheism? In Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida, 64% of voters, 64% of voters, and 72% of voters respectively who “never” attend religious services voted for Obama.
In Wisconsin, 71% of White atheists voted for Obama. In Ohio, 62% of White atheists voted for Obama. In Michigan, 76% of White atheists voted for Obama. In Pennsylvania, 68% of White atheists voted for Obama.
In the 2012 election, Barack Obama won 69% of the Jewish vote and 70% of the “religiously unaffiliated” nationwide. If the goal is to transform Whites into Jews, then obviously promoting atheism is the way to go because there is no measurable difference between Jewish and White atheist political preferences.
Our Strategy – The Message
Southern Nationalists are ethnonationalists who seek a free and independent Dixie.
We have already established the importance of working within the system (like our counterparts in Canada, Belgium, Spain, and the UK) to dissolve the Union. We have established that secession requires winning over Christians and conservatives. We have established the importance of closing the gap between the Southern Nationalist vanguard and the Southern White masses.
In order to succeed, we will need a simple winning message that resonates with our target audience. I think the message should be that Christianity and conservatism are doomed within the United States, we live under a totally consolidated and unrepresentative federal government with unlimited powers, and the preservation of the Union puts us on a fiscally unsustainable course that will inevitably destroy our economy.
The South should be encouraged to revolt in defense of its own values and prosperity. It must be convinced that secession is the only way to preserve the Southern way of life and actualize those values.
In Catalonia, Catalan secessionists have a simple message that the newly rebranded OD will be experimenting with next year: seceding from Spain is necessary to preserve Catalan culture and Madrid has mismanaged Catalonia’s economy by taxing productive Catalans and redistributing their wealth to indolent Andalusians.
It is already clear that fiscal considerations over America’s soaring national debt and unsustainable government programs – such as the “takers” who got the “Obama phone” from the taxes of the “makers” – are weighing heavily on the minds of the White Southerners who are flirting with secession. We need to spend a lot more time responding to these cultural and economic anxieties.
Our Strategy – Talking Points
The Southern Nationalist message relies heavily on our most valuable asset: the unvarnished truth.
We don’t have the money of Conservatism Inc. or the media to contest the White House, but we can give White Southerners an honest assessment of their situation, we can prod them to revolt in defense of their own self avowed values, and we can excite their imaginations with the tantalizing possibility of how empowering it would be to follow their values to their logical conclusion and to assert their right to rid themselves of the ruling class in Washington.
Here are some talking points that advance this message:
1.) We agree with Ron Paul that the Constitution has failed and the federal government has become a consolidated despotism.
2.) Secession is the ultimate check on the growth of the federal government.
3.) America has failed as a nation. There is no political cure for a decompiled culture.
4.) White Southerners are an object of ridicule in America’s national culture. See “Django Unchained,” “Rosewood,” “Mississippi Burning,” “Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter,” “Lincoln,” and “Deliverance.”
5.) White Southerners are a degraded and humiliated minority within this Union. See the Susan Rice nomination in which the Democratic media recently told White Southern men that it wasn’t their place to question an African-American women.
6.) Christianity has no future in the United States.
7.) Conservatives tried to “Take Back America” and failed. Dixie is not synonymous with America.
8.) Conservatism is dead in America except as a regional philosophy.
9.) America has promoted secession everywhere from South Vietnam, South Korea, South Sudan, Kosovo, Austria, Taiwan, Ukraine, Georgia, the Baltic States, Panama, East Timor, and Ireland to advance its own interests.
10.) America is becoming California. The financial collapse of California will herald the financial collapse of the United States.
11.) The blacks were given their chance. We tried for fifty years to create a “post-racial, colorblind society.” Obama’s reelection on the basis of ZANU-PF-style explicit appeals to class warfare and racial tribalism have closed the book on “MLK’s Dream” and replaced it with “Get Whitey.”
12.) We waged a “War on Poverty” for 50 years and poverty whipped us.
13.) China hasn’t used violence against Taiwan. Russia hasn’t used violence against Ukraine and Georgia. Even North Korea has restrained itself from attacking South Korea. The United States should live up to the standards of North Korea and allow Texas to peacefully secede from the Union.
14.) If you can’t leave, you aren’t free.
15.) The United States is anti-White and anti-Southern.
These are just a few examples that immediately come to mind. Every single one of these talking points has the benefit of being true. The goal of our strategy is to hammer away at these talking points until they are accepted as common sense and disunion is accepted as the only way to preserve the Southern way of life.
Our Strategy – Metapolitics
Southern Nationalists have no objection to “metapolitics.”
Unlike White Nationalists, Southern Nationalists can point to multiple successful examples of just such a metapolitical struggle in the Lower South:
“This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the “storm came and the wind blew.”
Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science. It has been so even amongst us. Many who hear me, perhaps, can recollect well, that this truth was not generally admitted, even within their day. The errors of the past generation still clung to many as late as twenty years ago.”
– Alexander Stephens, Cornerstone Speech, March 21, 1861
There is a myth on the internet based largely on stereotypes and ignorance that the South is anti-intellectual or completely devoid of an intellectual culture. In reality, the Union was shattered precisely on the finer points of Stephen Douglas’s abstract constitutional theory of squatter sovereignty, and men like Jefferson Davis and Alexander Stephens left behind huge constitutional treatises for posterity.
Even beyond Jefferson Davis and Alexander Stephens, these issues were hashed out by the secessionist vanguard in journals like the Southern Quarterly Review, the Southern Literary Messenger, and DeBow’s Review for a decade prior to secession and these ideas were circulated to the masses at the popular level in broadsides in newspapers like the Spirit of the South or Rhett’s Charleston Mercury.
OD spotlighted a fraction of this material during Confederate History Month 2012:
“The hour of that hybrid thing, a democratic republic, for the government of two different races, has passed away forever, and we must now direct our attention to those ethnological facts, from out of which the next government is to flow. …
“The peculiar form of government, under which we have for many years been living – call it by what name we may, whether a democracy or a republic – has been well calculated to demoralize, to some extent, the native, high character, of the South, and to vitiate its progress in statesmanship. There has been too much individual freedom, license rather, conferred upon the masses, through the agency of which fact, the lighter and less worthy material of society has floated to the surface. Men of actual merit, who are generally less adapted to popular approbation, have been compelled to come with their opinions and claims before the same volatile tribunal, with the worthless and flippant demagogue; and they, too, as far as was possible for them to do so, have been compelled to resort to the same vitiated means of success.”
In my reviews of Elizabeth Varon’s Disunion! The Coming of the American Civil War, 1789-1859, Paul Quigley’s Shifting Grounds: Nationalism & the American South, 1848-1865, and William Freehling’s The Road to Disunion, Secessionists Triumphant, 1854-1861, I discussed the success of the Confederacy’s “metapolitical revolution” in the 1850s from the eclipse of American nationalism in the Lower South to the emergence of Southern ethnonationalism in the 1850s to the hardening of racial attitudes mentioned by Alexander Stephens and to John C. Calhoun’s absolutely pivotal “mainstreaming” of secession and the compact theory of government in the 1830s and 1840s.
These issues are discussed in great detail in books like Drew Gilpin Faust’s A Sacred Circle: The Dilemma of the Intellectual in the Old South, 1840-1860 and Michael O’Brien’s massive Conjectures of Order: Intellectual Life in the American South, 1840 to 1860.
The ethnocultural division between Southern Whites and Yankees, which I described at the outset of this essay, was pioneered and discussed in elaborate detail in the years leading up to the War Between the States in articles like “Southern Civilization, or the Norman in America”:
“But the Roundhead, at once a religious fanatic and a political agitator and reformer, could conceive of no government but the rule of the Saints, and form no other idea of the principles of civil liberty than what the levelling philosophy of the covenant taught. A bigot in faith and an idealist in speculation, his sentiments were violent and his convictions impracticable. A visionary from principle and a revolutionist from interest, his prejudices allowed no compromise, while his passions fed equally the flame of his cupidity and ambition. Austere in his morals and inflexible in his principles, he set up his own conduct as the standard of right, and sought to dictate the opinions and control the convictions of others. Rude in his manners and morose in his disposition, he practiced the profoundest dissimulation, while attaining credit for sincerity, and concealed his real character and designs under the cloak of hypocrisy. . . .
Opposite under the banner of the king, stood the Cavalier – the builder, the social architect, the institutionalist, the conservator – the advocate of rational liberty and the supporter of authority, as against the licentiousness and morbid impulse of unregulated passion and unenlightened sentiment. No idealist, enthusiast or speculative system-builder, upheaving ancient landmarks and overthrowing venerable monuments; but a realist, a practical and enlightened utilitarian, bowing to the authority of experience and acknowledging the supremacy of ideas, forms and institutions that had received the hallowing sanction of time . An institutor by genius and a ruler by race, his pride was at once the sword of his most eminent virtues and greatest weaknesses, while honor was the touchstone of his character. Chivalrous in sentiment and magnanimous in deed, glory was his ambition, and loyalty the inspirer of his every thought, impulse and action. Elevated in his ideas and tolerant in his views, his selfishness was vicarious and his very faults wore the semblance of virtue. Unyielding in his principles, but compromising in his opinions, his conduct was governed more by sentiment than reflection, and more by association than either. Courtly in his manners and splendid in his tastes, a knightly generosity he practiced even toward his foes, and never lost his faculties in volumptuousness. Without being an abject advocate of passive obedience or a supporter of arbitrary power, he yet took ground against the revolutionary party, not as an enemy to liberal institutions or a well-regulated liberty: but, discovering in the doctrines and principles of the revolution a greater danger to the social and political system than from the alleged existing abuses, he preferred yielding his loyalty rather to institutions than abstractions, and felt it a duty to attempt to quench the lights of the incendiary philosophy, whose torch had been applied to the noblest monuments of civil wisdom yet erected by the genius of man …”
Southern Nationalists have a great advantage in the area of metapolitics. Ultimately, all we are doing is reacquainting White Southern conservatives with their own tradition and cultural inheritance, the Cavalier ideal, which unconsciously informs their value system and actions anyway, and encouraging them to assert that ideal by sending secessionists to their state legislatures.
Our Strategy – Dealing With The Blacks and Hispanics
An astute commentator at VNN Forum made a comment that is worthy of a formal response in this essay: “Qui gehennam habet hostium cum mediocris ingeni quotientem LXXXV?”
[Who the heck has enemies with an average I.Q. of 85?]
Southern Nationalists agree that blacks are not our real political enemies. The existence of the Union with Yankees is solely responsible for the creation and preservation of Black Run Amerika (BRA).
Secession will solve the problem by eliminating the Yankees and Jews who are responsible for artificially elevating blacks over Southern Whites in Dixie. It eliminates all the Northern Whites who voted for Obama twice, who voted for all the civil rights laws, the federal courts that imposed integration on the South and which obstruct the legislative process, the federal controlled public school system which inculcates White guilt, Eric “My People” Holder’s Justice Department, etc.
The race question with African-Americans and Hispanics can and should be subordinated to the priority of secession and securing our independence. In an independent South, the Northeastern media will be unable to maintain BRA’s racial etiquette, which will crumble like communism in the dying Soviet Union, and the blacks will be held accountable for their actions without Yankee-spearheaded federal obstruction.
In dealing with the blacks, Southern Nationalists should be practical and focused on the immediate priority of independence: in an independent South, the blacks will be allowed to keep their voting rights and their civil rights, Russian and Chinese international observers will be invited to Dixie to supervise the fairness of our elections, but BRA will be dismantled brick by brick, racial preferences will be eliminated, and power will be restored to the states and local communities to make their own laws … including restrictive covenants.
The solution to the Negro Question in Dixie isn’t a radical proposal: all we have to do is encourage the conservatives and libertarians to act on their own ideas, which is to say, secede from the hated “Big Government,” and with a solid rightwing majority in the Republic of Dixie, they should be encouraged to decapitate the Great Society welfare state and create the free market paradise of their dreams.
Just imagine it: the year is 2025, and every “Black Confederate” is confronted by the sight of the Confederate flag waving in triumph at every public building in the Republic of Dixie. Five years ago, The Day The EBT Card Quit Working unfolded in Atlanta and there was a mass exodus of blacks from every major city and county in the South which diluted their electoral majorities.
The White conservatives who have an iron grip on the Confederate government didn’t stop with the SNAP EBT card when they seized power. They voted to eliminate the whole Geography of Government Benefits: WIC, TANF welfare, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, Obama phones, Section 8 housing, energy assistance, “fair housing laws,” disability benefits, federal funding for HBCUs, affirmative action, “disparate impact,” most forms of public transportation, etc.
Even the Post Office was privatized. The Confederate government and the state and local governments of the Republic of Dixie have laid off thousands of government workers. They passed a slew of regressive taxes. They disenfranchised all convicted felons and passed stringent federal and state Voter ID laws.
As in the Jim Crow era from 1896 to 1965, the relative differences in social status, economic opportunities, and future prospects precipitated a mass exodus of African-Americans from the Republic of Dixie to the United States, which responded to Southern secession by creating an even larger and more generous welfare state that was infinitely more attractive to “people of color.”
After the Union was dissolved, the Confederate Congress pounced and quickly repealed the Immigration Act of 1965, while the remainder of the United States (now monolithically controlled by the Democratic Party) passed the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2020 to encourage Somalians and other types of exotic Africans to move to hideously White enclaves like Minnesota and Maine.
At the state level, the Southern states began passing ever more stringent types of Alabama-style immigration laws and E-Verify laws, which made life a living hell for illegal aliens. Without access to the federal courts and a friendly Justice Department, the Southern states began passing laws that made it illegal to rent housing to illegal aliens and for public utilities to provide them with electric service and running water.
A huge fence was built on the Texas border which has been decried by Mexico and other Latin American countries as the “Great Wall of Dixie.” Most of the illegal aliens now crossing into the Republic of Dixie are White Midwesterners who brave the Ohio River in a desperate bid to escape the onerous taxation of the United States in the sanctuary cities of Kentucky and West Virginia.
Does this get us all the way to a White Southern ethnostate? No, but it reverses our racial and cultural decline, shuts down the major feedback loops that are driving that decline, it would significantly whiten Dixie, and position us to pass further reforms as the international and cultural context changes in the decades ahead.
The first step is the hardest step to take. It has to be secession.
Our Strategy – Dealing With The Jews
Southerners admire the Israelis.
We ought to use that to our advantage: the Israelis have built a massive border fence and concentration camps for the deportation of illegal aliens from South Sudan and Eritrea. They call themselves a “Jewish state.” They have a great immigration policy which we should claim as the model of our own:
How would Southern secession intersect with the Jewish Question? How many Jews live in the South compared to the rest of the United States?
Alabama – 8,850
Arkansas – 1,725
Florida – 638,635
Georgia -127,670
Mississippi -1,575
Louisiana – 10,675
Kentucky – 11,300
North Carolina – 30,675
Tennessee – 19,600
Missouri – 59,175
Virginia – 97,290
West Virginia – 2,335
South Carolina – 12,545
Oklahoma – 4,700
Texas – 139,565
Total U.S. Jewish Population: 6,588,065
Total Southern U.S. Jewish Population: 1,164,315
Southern U.S. Jewish Population as Percent of Total U.S. Jewish Population: 17.7%
If the Republic of Dixie seceded from the United States, we would carry out less than 1/5th of the Jewish population in America, over half of which is concentrated in South Florida and the Washington Metro Area.
Of the Jewish members of the 112th Congress, 5 of 26 in the House are from the South (Cantor, Cohen, Yarmuth, Deutsch, and Wasserman-Schultz), and none of the 13 Jews in the U.S. Senate are from the South. Eric Cantor, the only Jewish Republican, is the only Jew in Dixie who represents a majority Southern White Christian district. There are no Jewish governors in the South.
Secession would eliminate the three Jews on the U.S. Supreme Court: Elena Kagan, a Jewess from New York City, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a Jewess from New York City, and Stephen Breyer, a Jew from San Francisco. It would also eliminate every single Jewish federal judge in Dixie.
As a practical matter, the Jews in NOVA who work for the federal government won’t be coming with us in the Republic of Dixie. The great bulk of the Jews in South Florida (where over half the Jewish population in Dixie lives) are snowbirds from states like New York and New Jersey who will simply die out over the next twenty to thirty years.
In the 2012 election, Barack Obama won 69% of the Jewish vote nationwide. In a 2010 Gallup poll of ideology by religion, 43% of the Jews described themselves as “liberal,” 35% as “moderate,” and 20% as “conservative.” A Pew poll recently found that 66% of Jews are “Democrat/Lean Democrat.”
How does this relate to our strategy of encouraging Southerners to revolt in defense of Christianity and their own conservative values? If that actually happened and the Southern states seceded from the Union, it means that Jews who are among the most liberal Democrats in America would among the unhappiest people in the Republic of Dixie, and huge numbers of them would self deport to the United States.
If the Southern states seceded from the Union, we would lose the capacity to fight foreign wars for Israel, which is a common criticism made by White Nationalists, and it is even more unlikely that we could sustain foreign aid to Israel in light of the high costs of the transition to independence.
The Jewish progressive social agenda would be totally and utterly defeated. Every Southern state would ban gay marriage and abortion. Christianity would aggressively move into the public schools and the public square. The site of the cross would have an effect that would look something like this:
Does this solve the Jewish Question? No, but secession alone will ameliorate the problem, break the Jewish stranglehold over Dixie, and put Southern White Christians in charge of their own fate. Without the interference of Washington, they will chart a radically different course, one which liberal Jews will find extremely inhospitable and probably so offensive that they will leave.
W&C
There is a picture of Varina Davis on Wikipedia. Please judge her race for yourself.
I consider Southern Blacks to be foreigners, just like the Russians in Latvia. What I am saying is that overt racial hostility is not helpful to our cause for an independent South, especially in the realm of public opinion. I am just suggesting that people lay off the hateful rhetoric, not that they e.g. embrace multi-racialism or brotherhood with Homo Sapiens Africanus. Sorry for the confusion.
Who here, then, is calling for overt or forceful “ethnic/racial cleansing” of the Southland? Isn’t that sort of thing beneath us?
“the unity of the grave will come soon enough for each of us”
What does that have to do with the cat population in China?
I don’t even think you actually believe that. Its pretty foolish. Think about it. There are scots-irish descendents in the north a well as the south. For all intents and purposes these are the same peoples, with similar morals and values. They want the same fundamental things. Yet allow our selves to be divided by superficial and historical grievances which jews use manipulate us.
Try to take a birds eye view. All pro Whites in the north are vehemently regretful of the civil war, and we* support southern independence, but wish to emphasize White unity against the jew plot to destroy us.
@ Futura
The White race of the only group currently being ethnically cleansed.
Secession- Won’t happen without the full support of southern blacks, mexicans, DWL’s, and yankee carpetbaggers. Don’t see how this can be achieved.
Revolution- The local police departments have enough firepower to squash anything of that sort, much less the FBI, ATF, etc..
Emigration- Every other white country is even more fucked than the US, and furthermore very few of them allow significant white immigration. Surely none will allow a mass migration of angry racists.
The Croatia example is interesting because there are parallels, though not ones Hunter might like.
Croatia got its independence from Yugoslavia in 1991 by force. Croatia, after a brief period (1941-45) of pseudo-independence – it was actually a Nazi satellite during WWII – was forcibly incorporated into Communist Yugoslavia in 1945. Tens of thousands of Croats, from an overall population of 5 million, were executed by Tito to ensure the takeover would not be resisted for long.
For the next 45 years, Croats were subjected to a steady diet of multicultural policies and propaganda which enraged nationalists – sound familiar? – and when Yugoslavia went into full socio-economic meltdown in the late 1980s the activists (many of whom were actually in exile in the West) were ready.
They prepared to fight and to politically mobilize, and it still wasn’t easy. In 1991, Serb rebels, who didn’t want Croatia to leave ailing Yugoslavia, seized one-third of the country with the help of Belgrade. The fighting was nasty, tens of thousands of casualties including many civilians, and Croatia only got the occupied territory back in Operation Storm in 1995, a major offensive by 150,000 troops which had secret NATO backing and which resulted in the expulsion of 200,000 Serbs from Croatia, which resulted in an almost entirely ethnically Croatian state. Total success for the nationalists. The generals behind Operation Storm were convicted of war crimes by the UN, but if you follow the news they got off on appeal a couple weeks back, huge celebrations in Croatia followed.
So you CAN recover statehood from the oppression of a multicultural regime, but you have to do certain things:
1. Have enough dedicated nationalists who are willing to do the tough, no-fun groundwork for years leading up to independence.
2. It’s all dependent on state collapse, which you cannot control.
3. You have to be willing to fight in an organized fashion. Not General Lee fantasies, not Civil War reenactments – actual fighting on a large scale.
4. You will lose territory, a lot of it, if your Fifth Column is supported by outsiders (here Blacks = Serbs, and DC will play the role of Belgrade).
5. You will only get lost land back if you have major foreign friends to help you militarily and look the other way when you do “ethnic cleansing” to change demographic facts on the ground.
You can be like Croatia … but only if you have enough devoted people and you are committed to hard work – and you have Big Friends.
I largely agree with the “strategy” add on.
Conservatism and Christianity and “freedom” don’t scare our target white and normal audience. Golden Dawn and violence does. We will win the “velvet divorce” over time if we persistently point out that our target audience will be more comfortable and secure after partition.
That is our “mantra”!!!
Don’t like Obamacare? Partition!
Don’t like inflation? Partition!
Don’t like unemployment? Partition!
Whatever and whenever you hear white and normal people complain, push our mantra “we would be better off with our own country”.
Anthony:
Fine. But that doesn’t answer my question.
Anthony what I thought was obvious but apparently it wasn’t is that ‘Unity’ for the sake of unity is pointless. Unity is constructive only so long as it serves a purpose. That purpose being in this instance survival and hopefully even a flourishing of whites. But Northern whites seem intent on suicide. I see no point in joining them for the sake of ‘Unity’.
Goblin, she looks white to me. There were apparently rumours concerning a mixed origin but that was it. I asked for evidence not rumours.
Tom, if secession can only be found at the end of the rainbow then it will never occur.
Borders? Who cares, I say build it and they will come.
“No matter what pleasant language you use, NewDixie will have to either subjugate these people into something like apartheid status or expel them on a scale not seen anywhere since the Germans were kicked out of Eastern Europe in 1945-48 (ca 12 million civilians). If you think any rump USG – still strong, stil la nuclear power – would tolerate either of those options, you are deeper in fantasyland than Covington.” – Not really, simply eliminating the various government support programs will address the vast majority of what anyone would want to accomplish. At this point either they stay bottled up or they leave for greener pastures, and the most beautiful thing of all is that federal government tax dollars pay these for these programs for the most part, so they would have to want to throw away money that the north simply doesn’t have to enforce their wanted social engineering.
I do agree that the first steps to independence must be to get regional control of infrastructure. Either the South needs its own electrical grid, or each state needs its own grid ala Texas for example. Likewise getting some of the military bases out of the south is a very good decision. having military personnel from different parts of the country in such bases is a problem. As the country is right now, a graceful secession is probably out of the question.
“Then there is the matter of Dixie’s historical baggage. No matter how noble our desire to secede may actually be, BRA’s propaganda empire will make certain that all the rest of America (and the world) will see in any neo-Confederate movement is slavery, the Klan, and Bull Connor attacking Negro children with firehoses and dogs. ”
– Robert Oculus
Bob- here we go again. Same old misdirected altruism. I used to think of the South as EVILLLL incarnate. Then I began to read-you know, become an adult? I watched films, checked sources, and realized I was being propagandized. I then began to LEARN- I read GWTW, after I watched the film, and liked Mitchell’s world. I watched also ‘Birth of a Nation,’ and SAW. I then found a copy and read Buchan’s ‘John Prester and Dixon’s ‘The Clansmen.’ I saw that it was fags, jews, liberals, and feminazis that kept alive the ‘hate’ mantra you have a fear of, and I realized I hated them- for being satan’s minions- with a perfect hatred, and realized that God did, too (For they NEVER exhibited one iota of grace in their lives, their faces, or their ideologies). I’ve seen the face of total ‘being given over to demonism’ and it’s not pretty. Luckily, I don’t do exorcisms. But one look at Hollyweird, and you get ‘it’.
I now look with anger on those niggers who DARED THINK they were the White Man’s equal in those you tube videos from the 1950’s and early 1960’s. I agonize that more White Men did NOTHING; I now applaud Wallace, consider the South to be right, and I now LOATHE Humphrey so much, I’d dig up his grave, and burn his bones, for what he did to my country, and consider myself righteous in doing so- and I, a life-long Yankee!
I’ve personally looked a nig in the face, and didn’t back down, when his uppity assness tried to get a White cop to deal with me for a specious ‘crime’ I didn’t commit. (He failed- as Denise has noted, they ALWAYS BACK DOWN FROM THEIR BETTERS).
AND I LEARNED- you can’t trust any of ’em, ever. They will lie. They USE the system, and they are UNREGENERATE devil beasts- after watching yet more looting in the wake of Sandy, and reading New Nation news on a semi-regular basis http://www.newnation.org
and seeing factoids like this:
http://thosewhocansee.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-africanization-of-france-one-in.html
I’m DONE. I don’t know what it will take for you to be enlightened, but I pray the White Man’s God to give you insight, before TSHTF, or you have an EBT fail mega-moment…… because your altruism is as misguided as it can be. It’s the voice of the dead past of ‘can’t we all just get along?’ No- we can’t.
Jack- for what it was worth. The Croats were the evil ones, and Serbia was only trying to have their own country which they have possessed since time immemorial.
But because the west doesn’t understand Orthodoxy, and because no one knew that two jews- Clark and Albright were behind the vicious genocide of Serbia’s most holy province- and were aided and abetted by a sexual egotist- Clinton- the bombing of Serbia occurred on THEIR Good Friday. Don’t tell me THAT wasn’t talmudic revenge!
And now look. Serbia has lost almost all of it- and to whom Bosnian MUSLIMS.
God, have mercy on poor, suffering Kosovo.
+Fr John: Being neither Serb nor Croat, I have no dog in the fight, and I am vehemently opposed to ANY white people killing each other for ANY reason.
The Balkan wars of the 1990s were stupid all around, and all sides committed war crimes. All need to repent, learn, and move on, ie cut it out.
Given that Europe is being swamped by Muslims, the Croat-Serb dispute looks stupidly quaint by comparison.
The Serbs, regrettably, are their own worst enemy. They set the stage for the revolt in Croatia in 1990-91 and then blew it. Milosevic played the Krajina Serbs for fools. The Croats were better organized and better fighters too. Truth hurts.
White & Confederate, I wouldn’t say northerners are hell bent on suicide any more than southerners.
If any group is social it is race mixers, egalitarians, cultural marxist antis.
In other words, as I have been saying all along, the salient distinction is ideological, namely pro White on 1 hand and Antis on the other.
To ignore this distinction in favor of a north/south one, you will inevitably lump anti whites together with pro whites in the north and the south. This is defeatist.
I have no qualm with HW’s advocating for southern nationalism/ independence, so long as he recognizes it as a White supremacist/ White rule, which he has.
My only request, is that he stop being antagonistic towards WNs thereby alienating people who should be allied. I’m suggesting that southern nationalism and white nationalism need not be contradictory, but can the complementry.
Conservatism, Christianity, “freedom”, implicit whiteness: these are not confined to Dixie.
Texas is not really a part of Dixie, it is Texas. And Amarillo share much more in common with Topeka than Tupelo.
Utah, Arizona? Not part of Dixie.
Montana, Idaho? Not part of Dixie.
They won’t respond to the emotional cues of the Confederacy Reborn. Anti-whites will get energized by the symbolism of their old enemies (which is why they love it so much when people use it).
No: new symbols and rhetoric is needed that will do two things:
1. Activate our side
2. Deactivate the other side
WN are not the target population for secession.
You need ordinary people, you need managers, you need professionals. You need landowners and you need factory owners.
The last thing you need are political radicals. Present secession as the middle way. Don’t present it as extremism. Indeed it is a reaction to extremists who wish to steal your property.
These discussion often flush out the trolls and dupes. Which is good. It clarifies who they are.
Here’s my strategy. In a nutshell it is:
1) attack and destroy the fake opposition (replace the just-kidding conservatives with mean-it nationalists)
2) polarize nation between Whites and jews
3) defeat jews and live happily ever after
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=98966
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=98966
“All that really needs to happen for White-centric ethnonationalism to flourish in Dixie is simply to remove all the government programs that prefer “minorities” over Whites and subsidize them. Just let nature take its course.”
This is why I voted for Ron Paul. Libertarian policies in the short term will have the effect of placing whites back on top in the long term, because that is our natural position. Whites, especially Western Europeans, make very poor slaves.
As a northerner and an atheist would I be welcome in this southern ethno state ? The South also has the largest population of blacks in the country, what would be done about that ?
Secession, breaking up the country, is a radical idea. Therefore, any secessionist movement will have to be led by hardcore radicals. That immediately rules out all Republicans and conservatives as potential leaders. Moreover, it will have to be supported by people willing to follow radicals, and people willing to encourage others to do the same.
Assoon as people start mobilizing as a very big group the process will only need the appearance of leadership, or a gaggle of oportunists grasping the coattails of the broad rush.
This will probably get derailed by a magically ressurgent GOP under the leadership of JEB. It’s funny how the Bush’s show up at the right time in the right place.
Futura,
The only one raising the spectre of overt cleansing is you. Why do you bring this up?
Best to secede first as an individual from the United State, by thinking as not being a citizen to such a depraved despotism. Then secede in actuality such as homeschooling, stop paying taxes(unless you accept handouts from the state or something), defy “authority”, care not for regulations and realize what you are doing is just in defying the tyrant. Get your immediate family to secede wife, children, grandchildren and maybe husband. The next thing to do is to form or if you already have one build a social network of like minded individuals all pertaining to the same race, ethnicity, faith, etc. Target the young teenagers and young adults do not sell them crap just tell them the unvarnished, plain truth! Pray!
Lew: I offer two counter examples: the War of Independence and the Confederacy. Both spurred by men of gravity.
There actually comes a time when normal people will seek and effect radical change.
Now is one of those times.
There are more complex issues that are not resolved by race. A couple of the issues complicating this are:
Older voters who are receiving Medicare and social security. These will be lost following secession.
Also lost, will be any benefits veterans have. They are generally very conservative, but will they forego their military entitlements?
Have your already addressed theses type issues and I have simply missed them?
Maybe Montana would be an option when considering relocation. Their are a few people who,have relocated there hoping to reform the state to conform with a conservative agenda.
Afterthought,
The leaders of the American revolution were uber-elites not humble farmers and laborers — George Washington was the richest man in the country — and deeply radical by the standards of the time.
Of course, you are right the leaders must be men with real gravitas. That’s another factor that immediately disqualifies all Republican and conservative leaders, anyone who associates with them, and anyone who respects them.
I thought it was understood without saying it the leaders must have gravitas, since gravitas is a requirement for effective leadership.
Southern secession will not happen based on the large population of blacks, mexicans, homegrown DWL’s, and Yankee carpetbaggers already living in the south. This consolidated group is only set to grow in numbers in the future. You also must realize that anyone receiving social security or a gov’t pension will oppose secession. Additionally the south contains federal facilities that BRA will never give up. CIA, Norfolk naval bases, Quantico, camp lejeune, Ft Bragg, Ft benning, Kings Bay, Oak ridge, etc, etc, etc.
Armed revolution is impossible.
The most realistic solution I can come up with is migration to a state like Wyoming. Foreign countries won’t have us, but there is nothing to stop someone from moving to another state.
Montana has a population of 565,000. 95% white, the rest are mostly reservation injuns. Demographically it is already better off than the best case scenario, hypothetical, post-secession south. 79% identify as christian, 18% non-religious. It’s cold and full of nature which is like double kryptonite to black people. This is one place the undertow will not follow us. Wyoming ranks first in US coal production and second in natural gas. Taxes are low or non existent. It is consistently rated in the top-5 pro business states, labor supply being the greatest hindrance.
If 100,000-200,000 southerners migrated to Wyoming, it should be relatively easy to get pro white politicians elected. It’s worth noting that Wyoming has the same number of senators as California. Also if the southerners focused their migration to just a small geographic area of Wyoming we could ensure local governments would be under our control as well.
Do Rick Perry, Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal have gravitas?
The South shall rise again. Good work Hunter. Is there a political party working on joining strategy with tactics?
Lew:
I ask because so many who post here are simultaneously in favor of a Southern White Ethnostate and hostile to the continuation of a Black-centered, DC-Based Welfare State. I am both of those things myself. However, I have to ask: what of those Blacks in the South who are hostile to a Southern White Ethnostate but who have a historical claim to living in the South? Suppose for a moment we get our way, either peacefully by political means or through secession and civil war. Hooray! We win! Now, if we are civilized, we have to deal intelligently with the Black Question. Because if we want to win people to our viewpoint to BUILD A MOVEMENT, we can’t just say: “Oh, kick ’em out, they were never real Southerners.” Nor can we imply that they would not have their individual rights protected and might just be “dealt with”!
We aren’t Fascists. One of our grievances is supposed to be the lack of consideration for minority rights and viewpoints in the popular political and legal imagination of the U.S. system (a’ la the philosophy John C. Calhoun). When people ask: “So you guys want us to secede? Okay. What about the millions of Blacks down here who have lived here since 1690 (or 1720 or 1750) and don’t want it to happen?” Our answers can’t be pat little clever nasty turns of phrase. Menace will not serve us well.
Tom: A landlocked White homeland? Sucker’s bet.
Fr. John+: Sorry, but you completely missed my point. Please reread my post if you have time, and you’ll see how you misunderstood what I was saying.
W&C-
Please look at the daguerreotype of Jefferson and his wife. She has jet black hair, black eyes, a smashed nose, puffy lips and colored skin. She is likely at least a Quadroon. She is certainly not White. My point here is that we need to judge a person on the basis of their support for our tribe, which is the Southern Nation, or we risk alienating many people who may have e.g. Hispanic relatives, or mixed race ancestry or non-White friends. Thaddeus Stevens hated us so much probably because of his Quadroon housekeeper/wife. Strom Thurmond had a Half-Black daughter. Quanah Parker was Half-White but he was still the last great Chief of the Comanche in Texas. He was a Comanche in his heart. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, O.J. Simpson and Barack Obama have White blood, but are Black at heart, that is why they hate us. We need to understand ourselves as a tribe. We are a White, Southern, Christian tribe, but we need not be 100% genetically closed. According to Darwin you need to adapt or die!
Anthony and Micheal-
Northerners or Europeans who want to join our Nation would of course be welcome! And any person living in the South who wants to leave is also very very welcome to do so. No one was advocating forced ethnic cleansing and it is not necessary or desirable. My point before was to concentrate on creating the new polity and forget about ‘the Jews’, ‘the Blacks’ or other perceived antagonists. As HW has pointed out repeatedly our #1 enemy is actually other White tribes.
“….The other problem is the local Southern state governments are essentially mini-federal governments in terms of whose interests they serve (not the locals). Hence, they can’t be looked to to spearhead a serious movement…..”
That’s so true. They are always on t.v. acting like old school Courtiers under feudalism, essentially BEGGING the Fed for this or that… funding, attracting business, etc. The upper south in particular. They no longer really function like state people
Futura
Personally, I don’t agree that blacks necessarily “have historical claim” to land in America. They were brought here as slaves and could be sent back to africa as free men. Thank you very much. Same as Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln and many others wanted to do.
In any event, without White support/White tax dollars subsidizing the black community, they will “wither on the vine”. In other words, in an explicitly pro White country, the “black problem” will solve itself.
You are so right, Steve E. Thank you.
Futura, I don’t believe tom’s idea is any more of a bad or shortsighted idea than secession. Many people have already brought up valid points as to why it would ot be possible.
Another specific example why it cannot work under the current political reality is the power of the federal court system. Alabama can pass all the anti-immigrant laws and any others like it they want. The federal government will only allow those they can tolerate making it appear they people have some control over their government.
We saw the power of the federal government over Roy Moore a few years ago. The fact that the people were behind him, as can be attested to by his recent reelection, the Feds still stepped in and had their way.
The deeply pessimistic reality is we are bound by the power of the federal behemoth. There may be pockets of resistance here and there. There may be pockets of violent outbursts, but we are becoming Europe.
Too many of our own people are compromised. For goodness sake, just look at the SEC and the face of the fans lining the stands. Compare their faces to those of the players they are cheering on the field. He’ll, I could barely drive up highway 82 heading north to Tuscaloosa the weekend Alabama was playing Texas. I didn’t pass a single black on the road. They were all. White and proudly displaying their team colors while the real color of their team is black. This is the mentality we are fighting. It isn’t the Jews, the elites, the Yankees, it’s the whole damn country that’s deteriorated.
Futura says:
November 30, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Tom: A landlocked White homeland? Sucker’s bet.
Don’t let perfection get in the way of the good enough.
Dissolution porn:
http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com.au/2012/10/how-it-could-happen-part-one-hubris.html
@ Dixiegirl Brad’s parents will take him to the woodshed when they hear he wants to do a way with social security & medicare. Count on it. LOL.
It’s funny how the critics always point to the large number of Blacks in the South. That has never been a problem for White Southerners, when we have been allowed to handle the situation without outside interference. I don’t see this as being a problem in the future either.
The only time that Blacks in the South were a problem was when White non-Southerners from either Europe or the US North interfered in our internal affairs. I think that the folks worrying about all the Blacks in the South don’t really understand the South or Southerners all that well.
A disappointing article by Pat Buchanan.
http://m.townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/2012/11/30/stirrings_of_secession
PalmettoPatriot says:
November 30, 2012 at 9:54 pm
It’s funny how the critics always point to the large number of Blacks in the South. That has never been a problem for White Southerners, when we have been allowed to handle the situation without outside interference. I don’t see this as being a problem in the future either.
I pointed to blacks, mexicans, homegrown DWL’s, and yankee carpetbaggers already in the south. I’d also add in anyone receiving a gov’t check whether it’s social security, pension, welfare, etc. They are growing in numbers. Do you believe secession is possible without the support of these groups? I don’t. I also can’t see how you could possibly convince anyone in those groups to support the idea.
Palmetto:
I understand Southerners just fine. But I also understand northerners, friend, and I believe that the success of a secessionist movement will be very much like a Chrysalis getting out of its shell: the less apparent turmoil there is–the fewer predictable buttons we push–the weaker the opposition from without will be.
If we say: “We’re seceding and everyone under our new national system within our borders will be absolutely and constitutionally and blindly equal before the law, regardless of race” and make that one of a number founding premises of OUR nation (except that we would MEAN it), we’ll do better than if we say: “We are seceding to form a WHITE STATE under the CONFEDERATE FLAG. We’ll handle our internal affairs just fine. Take a hike, Yankee. And come get all your niggers while you’re at it.”
It’s almost like Pat wanted to title an article as being about secession without actually talking about it. More to come perhaps?
Goblin,
If Varina Davis had any trace of non-White ancestry, it assuredly would have been used against Jefferson Davis by his political enemies.