Jamaica
Whenever I hear libertarians prattle on about the superiority of free labor over slave labor, I roll my eyes because the poor dears know nothing about history, or mangle history to justify their theories.
Here’s further evidence from Ian Thomson’s The Dead Yard that slavery was superior to freedom:
“Jamacica loves a hero, and no Jamaican was more heroic than Paul Bogle, the Baptist preacher and reform agitator who led the Morant Bay uprising. Bogle and his conspirators were protesting not against the adored Queen Victoria and the empire she ruled from London, but against the plight of the half-starving black majority that was without work, without land or a future.
By the 1860s – thirty years after emancipation – many Jamaican plantations had turned to scrub as the owners were unable to compete with the cheap sugar produced by Cuba and Brazil. Jamaica had become a patchwork of ramshackle, half-evacuated farmsteads, where rumours of re-enslavement (associated with the possibility of Jamaica joining the United States as a slave state) were rife.”
Shouldn’t it have been the other way around?
After the abolition of slavery in Saint-Domingue, sugar production in free labor Haiti collapsed while igniting a boom in slave labor Cuba, Jamaica, and Louisiana.
In 1834, slavery was abolished in Jamaica. Thirty years later, the economy in free labor Jamaica had been prostrated because the sugar plantations there couldn’t compete with slave labor in Cuba and Brazil.
Neither Haiti or Jamaica ever recovered from freedom.
The OP was about Jamaica.
Slavery was abolished in Jamiaca and the British West Indies in 1833. In every case, the abolition of slavery was brought about by moralizing liberal outsiders, whether in Saint-Domingue, Dixie, Jamaica, or Cuba.
Brazil was the last state to abolish slavery. Unlike Jamaica or Cuba, I believe Brazil was independent from Portugal. I’m also fairly sure that foreign pressure was decisive there too.
I plan to spend a long, long time researching free blacks in the Caribbean. At some point down the road, I plan to move on to free negroes in Brazil and South America.
“At some point down the road, I plan to move free negroes in Brazil and South America.”
“Okay, so you just do an excellent impression of a Judeo-Yankee fanatic. Kudos.”
Not sure if this comment was aimed at me. If so, I still have no idea what a Judeo-Yankee fanatic is.
No shitbird, it was directed at Joe. But I’ll break you off a piece, too, since you asked.
I have probrally seen more of real niggerism than most on this site.
Your speculations are of no interest to me.
My ancestors had nothing to do with any of that. Apparently, yours did.
So, I don’t know who the fuck your ancestors were. Here’s a prize for you. You must be so proud.
But if they were Yankees, they certainly had more to do with the unleashing of niggerisms than mine did.
You are tied into this nigger invasion, I am not.
I don’t even know what this means. Other than, you’re either in doubt about your ancestry, or don’t like advertising it.
Get out of your shack and stay away from rancid squirrel meat. Go up north (rural) and talk about niggers. You will find most Whites are on the same page as yourself.
Right. That’s why the Yankees who come down here are so proud of their “anti-racist” bona fides, wag their fingers at us, etc.
But if you are hell bent on blaming the current rural north, so be it. You are just ignorant and you give substance to all of the negative sterotypes of the south we grew up hearing.
I don’t blame the north, rural or otherwise. But if we’re drawing a road map of the negro disaster, it goes through Yankee-Judea, not Dixie. It’s obvious Yankee WNs like to blame the negro disaster on Southerners; it happens in on this site as regular as rain. It’s also obvious they don’t like being set straight about history (and logic). Gets their Yankee panties all up in a bunch.
LOL /Her ancestors didn’t come over on the Mayflower, they came a few ships later.
Same here.
As per the article : All I know from my readings in history is that slavery always winds up being a disaster wherever it is put in place. Maybe not at first, but eventually.
Again, in hindsight, if I had a time machine I’d go back and prevent slavery. But that doesn’t get Yankees off the hook for making it into a disaster.
Unfortunately for us members of the white race, the mercenary spirit runs deep in the blood of the Caucasian.
As opposed to whom? Blacks?
It is the Achilles heel of the white race. It’s what holds us back more than anything else, including the behavior and the actions of our enemies.
I disagree. I think the fact that Jews look enough like us to pass is our Achilles heel.
@Svigor
I never said the Yankees should get a free pass about anything. The whole yankee/uncle sam / hollywood/madison ave/ agenda deserves criticism, and lots of it.
As far as my,our, white race is concerned vis-a-vis the mercenary spirit, you make an excellent point about “jews looking enough like us”. That too is a big problem.
When I point out a flaw, or what I think is a flaw in my race, I am not comparing whites to blacks or any other race. I don’t care about blacks or other races so much to give them any thought. I only think about them when I have to figure out how to protect myself from them. That’s about it.
I mention this mercenary flaw so readers, and I include myself, can give it some thought and perhaps that might lead to a little bit more unity, something greatly lacking amongst whites.
The idea that charity begins at home was flushed down the toilet in the 60’s. I see whites helping other races,but hardly ever lifting a finger to help their own kind, even the church-goers ( which I am not). It’s very pervasive. And it is a flaw.
I sometimes mention things in my posts keeping in mind new readers to the website. They need to hear this. Especially after 50 years of 24/7 multi-cultural and multi-racial propaganda and indoctrination.
I don’t criticize with the intention of banging people over the head or trying to make them feel miserable and guilty. Just hoping it might lead to a little bit more unity, that’s all.Most likely, I will continue to mention this flaw every once in awhile in my future posts if I think it’s necessary to mention.
Putting aside that alot of jews look enough like us, there still remains the mercenary spirit in the white race. Throughout history, many of our leaders have sold us out,one way or another. I stand by that.
If I thought that the yankees should get a free pass, I never would have mentioned that Lincoln was a mass-murderer along with his sidekick, Sherman, another mass murderer. You don’t hear the average yankee say that. They don’t even give that any thought, let alone actually say it.
You didn’t quote anything I said in support of Southerners or any quote about how Southern complaints against the yankees are beyond cavil. Cut me some slack.
Neither I, nor my ancestors, had anything to do with trampling on the South,or harming Southerners in any way.
Svigor – stop fighting with Joe. Yeesh!!!! You sound like me and Stonelifter, fighting over dancing/not dancing.
I think your posts are FLAT OUT wonderful. You know this. I really really like Joe’s posts too. We all need each other.
I am in Yankee terrain – but not really. I had a wonderful day. I spent the afternoon with WHITE people, in semi-rural land. The first group were earthy crunchy liberal types – who “live White” and had TONS of little kids runng around the property. The kids are all healthy BEAUTIFUL, mostly home-schooled, and very bright. Every-one was Celt or German or German or Celt. The Earthy Crunchies love music, and jam together all the time. No TV, and loads of healthy home grown food. Not to mention a killer elderberry…ahhhh…”medicine” that I am still feeling the medicinal effects of. WOO HOO! Now they are very very leery of my politics – but – a good afternoon was had by all.
Then on to another neighbor’s slice of Heaven. This fellow is much hipper to reality. He’s got a family, a buncha kids – including a 9 year boy who has just tested at 134 IQ. He and his spouse are VERY cool, self-reliant people – who know what’s going on…..
Now they know “why”. I filled them in on factual, verifiable history. Now he knows that there is an actual White Advocacy movement….(Yes. I know WN sucks. I am still too medicinal to cite “why”. You know the drill. We are going to snowball…). I told him aobut this site, and SBPDL, and a few other things. He was really amused by the SBPDL name.
Now both sets of White families, and extended families, know of each other. The younger Earthy Crunchy types espouse Free People One World blather – but I got a few of ’em into conversation – and real world racial reality will move them over i 2 seconds flat. They work really hard have lots of goals, and LOVE the Ways of Whitey – even if they’de never epxress themselves that way. For now.
The second gang? I now have New Best Friends Forever. And Hunter, et al, will get new Readers. And the second crew will tell ALL their pals.
So stop jabbing at Joe. He’s a good egg, and One of Us.
So, Svigor, and Joe – after the BRA crashes, and I launch my Exotic Afghani Midget Attack Slave trade – how many can I put you down for?
IMO, the point of the slavery debate is not to argue for the reinstituion of slavery, nobody here wants that as far as I know. The point is to shed the light of truth on that much maligned institution and on Jim Crow, and their overall positive impact on white AND black society. In short, Hunter is laying out for us the path to reclaimn the moral highground from the rabid left using harshly truthful arguments that were once commonly understood among our ancestors before BRA. The first step to freeing our people is destroying the left’s god of equality, trampling it underfoot, and desecrating the temple of the modern DWL.
@Denise
Put me down for 2 please. One to help me with the front yard work. The other one can help me in the backyard garden. Try to ship some real quiet ones please. LOL
I’ll get myself a middle-eastern cookbook and learn to make falafels for them, as long as they’re quiet. LOL ( you’re a hoot.LOL. that’s a compliment in my book).
@Wayne
I think your post is the perfect ending to this debate.
there is no fighting Denise, you are wrong, but it’s ok. You are a woman and not expect to understand anything about masculinity like I cannot understand child birth
I am not arguing for a return to slavery. I do think the Afghani Midget Taliban are cool as Hell, though. I admre anything that’s little ,and tough. and will work to defend it’s land and people and beliefs – no matter how improbable.
Slavery is never a societal good. All it does is to devalue the slave-owners along with the slaves. Further many of those so-called ‘benighted savages’ were heirs to empires that were great while white Europeans painted themselves with woad.